Harry & Meghan savaged by South Park

[sydneysunset]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/south-park-mocks-meghan-and-harry-and-their-high-profile-pleas-for-privacy-btkq9g2mg

Their standing in the US is at an all-time low. US audiences seem to hold them in the same contempt as people in the UK

In many ways, Harry looks older than years because his skin is very weathered.

William has his mothers fair colouring and his skin looks great.

when Harry eventually embraces his hair loss, that will age him even more.

Around the 40 mark is not exactly young.

One thing I like about Camilla is her lined face. Way back in the past, Queen Victoria didn't even bother to smile. 😂

@Sayitagainmyl

The Oxford dictionary classes ‘young adults’ as those in their late teens and twenties, which seems very reasonable.

Nonsense. I’m not saying you have to feel old ( I don’t 🤪), but if you check the dictionary definition of young adult it is This. And a google search returns definitions of between 18 and 25 on average (one generously includes up to 30). Even the Urban dictionary says 18 to mid to late twenties. Given the average life expectancy is 80.9 years, I don’t see how someone who at 40 has lived half their life expectancy can be called young 🤷‍♀️

I know. I was being sarcastic.

In post-apartheid South Africa 'youth' was classified as up to 35, to recognise the lack of education and opportunities for many communities under apartheid - which meant that a lot of people might be still completing their secondary education and tertiary education/training a lot longer than would have been the case in a more equal society. So it was chosen quite specifically as a more generous definition of 'youth' than would usually be considered.

A quick Google with a fairly random set of organisations coming up:

Young Farmers Clubs have a cut off of 28 😂and they extend their definition of 'young' further than most youth clubs.

UK Youth programmes - doesn't give much info about age ranges, but Young Changemakers is aged 16-25

Buttle Trust grants up to the age of 20

This list of Trusts that funds work with 'young people' lists 30 funders, nine of them specify a maximum age, none of them categorise 'young people' as any older than 25.

I would also have no problem referring to them as a 'young' couple

would you call Meghan a “young mum”? Because, medically speaking, she was a geriatric mother, being over 35 when pregnant.

to me she is a woman. Not a young woman, because she is in her 40s.

older teens are often referred to as “young adults” and there is such a huge gap between a 17 year old and a 40 year old. Or even a 30 year old.

You’ve obviously not been to many young adult groups, I take it.

I don't know if I have. Is it a case of "if you have to ask, you haven't been"?
Presumably they're not some new take on (the now defunct) Club 18-30 holidays?
I think most gatherings/groups I go to are friends/family or people who share a similar interest and tend to be of mixed ages.

I know "Young adult" fiction tends to be for early teens (maybe earlier, with a good reading level) to late teens/early 20s (although the 19+ reader would presumably be moving on to something more meaty).
That's how the term seems used in bookshops.

In fact the Silver Line helpline (linked with Age UK) is for 'older people', defined as 55+ 😂

So I think - given average life expectancy as per @smilesy is 80 - we could safely say that 39/40 is middle age!

Thing is, you can't get to be middle-aged, old, whatever without having been a young adult.
Are any groups you go to at that time "young adult groups"? In which case, presumably, just about everyone posting here will have been to them.

i don’t think any of them are “young” but every single one of them looks substantially better than me. I include Prince William in that.

agree they should mock it back - getting all shirty and defensive or ‘overwhelmed’ (why? I don’t understand this description), about a satirical cartoon taking the piss out of their perpetual victimhood is really not very bright.

What’s nonsense? That definitions vary? That is true. In the German-American psychologist Erik Erikson's psychosocial development theory, young adulthood takes place between the ages of 18 and 40. Given this, it is safe to say that definitions vary – much like recollections which is often quoted on here. That’s something you can happily agree with, is it not?
I’d like to know the true ages of the individuals that labour over H&M’s age as if it were a slight. You do realise that they are similar in age to Wills and Kate? In fact, H is younger, which means any age-related adjective you use to apply to the Sussex couple is automatically applied to W&K.

Of course, I wouldn't describe W&K as 'young adults' either.

My 19 year old daughter thinks William, Kate,Harry and Meghan are ancient. Her 14 year old sister doesn't even know who they are. They have no interest in any of them, only when I asked if they think any of them are 'young'. Their dad and I also fit into the category of ancient.

Well, given that the Waleses are roughly the same age then no I would not call them “young” either. I don't think anyone is “labouring” over their age, just saying that they are not “young “. It’s not a criticism ffs. There is nothing wrong in not being “young”.

There is nothing wrong in not being “young”.

Exactly, I have succeeded in not being 'young' for many years now without imploding or becoming a burden on society😂

DD1, having tactlessly commented on my grey hairs when I was in my late 30s then very quickly added 'but you're not old'. I asked her what she would classify as 'old' and she said - tactfully for a 12 year old, and I was nearly 40 - that 'old' is 50...!

Seems an odd hill to die on ! , none of them are young , I wouldn't say they were old either . Not sure why stating thier ages is seen as an insult and worth getting salty about, very odd!

Well that's the 2nd reference in a week to Erik Erikson's theories.

So going by EE, MM is not a young adult.

However, it is important to note that Erikson stressed his work was a ‘tool to think with rather than a factual analysis.’ Its purpose then is to provide a framework within which development can be considered rather than testable theory

using his theory to define the concept of “young adult” rather than as a tool to measure psychological development by age lacks validity.

🙄 Only to someone with strong ulterior motives. But I respect my time far too much to spend any more of it labouring over this. I certainly have no intention of wasting my own youth.

Aren’t you exhausted bending yourself into so many shapes to prove Meghan and Harry are young adults? They are middle aged! Deal with it!

Completely off piste but now, I just have the Elastica I think song for an earworm 🎵I know my ex-boyfriend lies
Oh he does it every time
It's just his permanent disguise
Yeah yeah but he's drop dead gorgeous🎵!

oh 90s music I miss you!

i misread that as “Eric Cartmen’s theories” for a second 🤣