"Kate's Rebranding Masterclass May Finally See off Meghan"

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

"Five months since she moved up to the second tier of the monarchy, the Princess has started beefing up her top team to make sure she succeeds not only with her “life’s work” on child development, but also with the task of besting Meghan Markle."

Why does Meghan have to look bad for Kate to look good? Why does Meghan need to be bested or seen off? Why is it a competition?

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I would imagine there were other drafts prepared, maybe not for all 5 options but certainly for 1 and 5.

The other scenarios were discussed and discounted before the arrived. If they’re not an option there is no point having them on the table for discussion

This wasn’t a merger of two companies,
this was a decision whether to retain or close a department and the CEO didn’t like any other the other options presented

No idea if you're referring to me.
Probably.
You're wrong if so.

I didn't say it was just one person but if you think it is all about you that's on you isn't it.

<makes mental note, never ever talk about make up except in S&B, otherwise it's a hidden agenda>

I didn't realise we were all so entrenched in our views that we can't actually chat about superficial stuff.

Noted. Will never do it again.

I hadn't noticed her make up changing before but you're right. I'm not sure why it's so seemingly controversial to talk about it, it's not a bad thing. I reckon it's because she's now PoW and as William has moved up the line of succession I suspect that has a huge impact on your psyche.

Well.... as you quoted my post to reply to, it's hardly surprising I think you're referring to me is it...

And obviously ' not just one person' obviously does mean me, I'm not stupid.

Anyway, no worries, let's double down and not talk about make up or anything else because it's all hidden agendas.

FWIW I think she looked stupendous at the Earthshot US thing, and I've said it more than once on threads.

Meghan did Harry a big favour helping him see a way of leaving the RF where he has never been happy. Just a pity the couple can only make money off the back of their grievances with them rather than work at their charitable foundations/acting/reality TV show or whatever else they turn their hand too.

I think the reason they have opted for the nuclear option with the RF is because it's a money spinner. After all Meghan is a one trick pony when it comes to acting (the sexy girlish girl (which is difficult in your 40s)). She's sadly just not very talented as an actress. Shes not a great feminist speaker either. Harry, well he has no real talent and relies on his royal titles for everything. The pair have been shown to be hypocrites wrt the climate so I've no idea what they can do except to have contact with the RF. With some clever PR team they may scrape by but in a few years, they will cease to have any importance and I just hope they settle down quietly and enjoy the fruits of the whinging.

Exactly!

I had no idea it was so controversial. I better get myself off to S&B for what I think on that subject, it ain't allowed here lol

As mentioned by a PP, the death of the Queen has, I think, led to other Royals dressing in a slightly more relaxed way (e.g. Princess of Wales wearing trousers more often). I saw pics recently of Edward at an engagement without a tie, Camilla at church without a hat etc. They are very subtle changes, but they will start to filter in as the new reign continues. Far more interesting than all the Kate vs Meghan nonsense.

I agree. I've long thought kate might be improved with a little Botox and some subtle fillers.

On a v recent thread here (could have been even this one) it was mentioned that when Meghan was doing her last season of Suits, the palace said no to a scene so writers had to rewrite. I don’t know If this is true, but it would make sense to me that Meghan would have found it very had to continue acting because it is likely that the palace would have wanted to approve of scripts etc. At any rate, I think there would have been roles she could not consider, and that it would severely limit her choice.

And how would H&M have managed to remain ‘in’ with Harry a working royal and Meghan acting in Canada or US? Live on separate continents? hardly an advisable start for a new family. I don’t think that would have worked at all and, perhaps, that’s why Meghan vetoed it and made it known her intention was to be a working Royal and ‘hit the ground running.’

[To my mind, if the Queen had said Meghan could continue acting, as had been reported, the Queen was not being realistic. And she was a pretty realistic soul it seems, (except when it came to her favourite son).]

If you look at Meghan’s work history she had numerous roles and ‘Suits’ had really consolidated her career. There is no reason to think Meghan’s career was already over (as I’ve seen opined on mn a number of times). She was not a big name star, but she was a real, regularly working actor. So, those who say she’s Z list etc - well they are not correct.

I agree. I've long thought kate might be improved with a little Botox and some subtle fillers.
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Wow what a nasty spiteful thing to say.

@Morestrangethings

Totally agree. It would not have worked. The cynic in me does think that they thought putting distance between H&M might mean the whole relationship would flounder.

I agree, but I loathe the botox culture says wrinkled old me!

I think it’s fine to talk about their outfits and makeup, and note when they’ve updated their looks etc., but I don’t think comparing the two and finding fault with one while praising the other is okay:

I think the cynic in you may be right.

I can't swear on the bible that this is true but I think George V had opinions about men not wearing hats, including his heir, Edward. There's a mention in a John Betjeman poem about him being 'hat-less'.

I had a discussion with a friend, probably in the summer after Archie was born, that I was so pee'ed off with the papers pitting the two against one another. And still it goes on and on and on.

I agree.

It also matches with post covid less formal dress world we currently seem to have. Not sure if is a trend that will stick around - some of the historical costumers say they get treated better with more respect when they dress in past clothes which look much more formal to modern eyes.

The issue isn't how her make up looks, the issue is about this all being made into a competition. Poor Kate couldn't work out what to wear or how to do her make up until Meghan shook it all up. Utterly ridiculous.

Still being disingenuous.

Ah the press and their wonderful misogyny. I suspect as PPs have mentioned the biggest driving force behind any changes was the deteriorating health and then loss of the Queen. I don't know why some people give Meghan and her influence so much weight.

Exactly and it meant Catherine's role changed and it also coincided with all her children being settled in school so she, like many women when children are all at school, can concentrate more on other things. Meghan was engaged to Harry over 5 years ago so if it is all about Meghan being the inspiration for how Catherine is dressing and doing her make up why didn't it happen 5 years ago? Oh I know Catherine was pregnant and then was lucky enough to be able to be a hands on mum.

I can't swear on the bible that this is true but I think George V had opinions about men not wearing hats, including his heir, Edward. There's a mention in a John Betjeman poem about him being 'hat-less'.

I’ve certainly read that he had strong views about womens’ hemlines rising about the ankle in the 1920s, and out of deference to his views Queen Mary kept wearing floor length gowns (and a tiara every night for dinner, even if it was just the two of them dining!).