"Kate's Rebranding Masterclass May Finally See off Meghan"

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

"Five months since she moved up to the second tier of the monarchy, the Princess has started beefing up her top team to make sure she succeeds not only with her “life’s work” on child development, but also with the task of besting Meghan Markle."

Why does Meghan have to look bad for Kate to look good? Why does Meghan need to be bested or seen off? Why is it a competition?

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The picture at Ellen’s party shows them moving on, that’s surely the best thing for them.

That suggestion that MM must go back to acting because there are no funds is the strangest one. Yet, Charles can afford to pay for Andrew private security. It doesn't even make sense for MM to go back to Canada/US to act and leave H doing his royal duties in the UK.

Bet option 2 and 4, had something to do with H leaving MM and A, somehow. Lord knows the palace source has suggested it enough to the likes of Valentine Lowe.

I do find it odd that the Queen suggested Meghan could carry on with her acting career, but when it came to the discussion with the five options, that idea was withdrawn.

Presumably though that would have been included under the umbrella of them having the opportunity to earn a private income though, which would cover any number of things they could do to achieve this - acting/taking on remunerated employment as a NED/merchandising/producing tv shows and podcasts etc etc. There’s no reason why it would be called out individually. And we know from Harry that options that would have given them the half in and half out that they wanted were on the discussion list.

perhaps Harry got the wrong end of the stick.

Perhaps the queen who knew her grandson
knew they would be happier out of the RF. I think she knew they would have ended up with option 5 even if they had chosen something else initially . Look at Freddie, they seem very happy in NY and she’s an actress too.

The queen strongly believes in marriage so the idea that she would be encouraging Harry to leave Meghan is ludicrous.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of everyone's behaviour here - and we'll never know the truth - I think the Royal family missed a huge opportunity with Meghan. She appeals to a lot of younger people and because she's actually worked and been an independent career woman, is very relatable.

It should never have been a competition - those two women both have their complementary skills, strengths and weaknesses. Unfortunately for the younger royals (Kate and William) people now expect more from them that just a few appearances with no measurable outcome. If they have to shake things up and modernise then surely that's a positive thing?

And also, I agree that Kate has changed her makeup over the years. She used to heavily line her lower lash line all the time, even for day engagements, but has thankfully mostly given that up! Her eyebrows have changes quite a bit, too.

Absolutely. An opportunity missed with Meghan. I do think that if Harry had met her after the Queen died, we might be talking very differently. The Queen was the glue that held everything together and there needs to be change now.

I wrote a long post yesterday at 08.42 about Kate's new Private Secretary, and how it was a good move and maybe, just maybe, a step towards some sort of modernisation.

The new Private Secretary has very interesting past experiences and is not a civil servant which is the norm up till now.

Gosh Serenster a big change... my make up hasn't changed in god knows how long!

Here is Kate at Earthshot in US, to me she looks very different

'I think the Royal family missed a huge opportunity with Meghan. She appeals to a lot of younger people and because she's actually worked and been an independent career woman, is very relatable.'

Yes but unfortunately she turned out to be an attention seeker and very unpleasant so can't be trusted, much like her df and dsis . It is a shame, younger people may need someone more relatable but she wasn't it.

Just your opinion. You aren't talking for the whole population Janiie

Well neither are you

Obviously it is my opinion I'm not professing to be anyone else.

Has no one ever changed their make up just because they felt like it, wanted a change, thought their skin was changing at certain ages. How bizarre to make such an issue of make up and if it's changed, how much it's changed, why it's changed.

For what it's worth at 69 last summer I had a consultation at a local Boots branch and bought a lot of new skin care and make up products and I don't even have a sister in law to compete with or to inspire me to up my game. I remember doing the same at about Kate's age, had a fling with Clinique that time.

An opportunity missed with Meghan

It’s only an opportunity missed if the role the Royal Family fulfils is actually something Meghan wants to apply her (undeniable) skills and energy to, though. Aside from the money and fame it offered, I am not convinced it did. She comes across to as someone who wants to be in control of her own destiny (a CEO in her own right, if you like, not supporting someone else as CEO). And, as we have seen, having people who openly chafe at the role hasn’t turned out so well for the Royal Family.

@ancientgran Gosh. As I commented above, this is not a criticism. If you take it as one, that is on you.

This is a forum. For comments. I am just commenting, that is all. It's not an issue at all. Why do you assume it is? Are we not allowed to just chat, link pictures, talk about make up, with someone assuming we are criticising?

WITHOUT someone

'This is a forum. For comments. I am just commenting'

I know! Yet you've just told me I don't speak for everyone. This is a forum Rousette. For comments. I am just commenting.

Here is Kate at Earthshot in US, to me she looks very different

I think shes gone for “full glam” there - heavy make up that will look good under bright lights, tv cameras and loads of flashbulbs on the red carpet.

(My makeup has changed over the years, if wearing less and less counts! 🤣)

You aren't the only one who has commented on her make up, I didn't quote you, not sure why you assume it was directed at you, if you do that's on you isn't it. I still think it is odd for people to be so concerned about a woman changing her make up, looking different etc and obviously the reason has to be Meghan. Has anyone on here never experimented with a different colour lipstick or a different mascara.

This whole thread is about Kate "upping her game" because of Meghan. Fine if you want to pretend that all the comments and analysis of what she is wearing and how she's doing her make up is nothing to do with what the thread is about but don't expect people to swallow it.

Mine has changed in so much as I buy it and can't be arsed to put it on.

Good grief. Personally, I just commented on her make up changing, that is all. As we all change our make up maybe as fashions change. I meant nothing by it. It didn't enter my head it was anything to do with Meghan, don't swallow that if you don't want to.

I give up, I honestly do, no one can say anything on these threads without it being a hidden agenda. Sometimes I try to find common ground between us all... chatting about make up was that common ground for me.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of everyone's behaviour here - and we'll never know the truth - I think the Royal family missed a huge opportunity with Meghan. She appeals to a lot of younger people and because she's actually worked and been an independent career woman, is very relatable.

I used to think that.

The more public interviews, comments, books - that they make the less and less I think this was ever really on the cards.

I've never been that convinced that they really resonated with young people anyway - it more they saw them in the news and like with most RF indifferent/slightly positive attitude taken as support. I know MN demographic tends towards older parenthood but large swaths of "young people" have parents in this sort of age range or not far off - this is a middle age couple with huge privilege and wealth who seem immersed in petty drama and still a bit directionless in life.

I think the never complain, never explain was a surprisingly effective strategy by RF - apparently the Queen Mother was very different behind closed doors but was generally publicly liked because she smiled and had a few stock phrases that let people talk about themselves.

I'm also not convinced relatable automatically means popular - people do seem to like glamour and mystic the pomp and ceremony the RF swath themselves in does tends to bring the crowds out - the spectacle not really the relatability driving that.

I won't. Some people just chat, some very clearly have an agenda but it isn't very well hidden.

@Roussette
Re the half in half out option and what the book said about a statement being pre prepared. The RF inc the queen had wanted them to stay in, but had decided there was no other option than all in or all out.

Just because Harry and Meghan had an option that suited their agenda (all the glam and none of the drudgery) doesn't mean the RF had to even consider this as an option, which they clearly didn't. So if the couple had decided to stay, all good, but if they went it made sense to have the statement ready to go. After all H&M had days earlier announced their plans to 'step back' from the RF so why wouldn't a statement have been prepared?

Yet another example of Harry being vague as to dates and times and the actual truth.

I don’t see the relevance of the makeup comments. I agree there does seem to be a hidden agenda.