Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

I'm guilty that I'm not always as sympathetic towards them as I could be. But I'm having an attitude readjustment. Imagine one of them landing in your pool on a hot day and you didn't notice. EUUWWWW!

i agree with this. Charles seems to have a number of qualities I dont like (being an Australian republican, and he’s our head of state, I admit that it’s unlikely I’m going to think overly well of Charles) but for all that, he was a man who married a young girl and both struggled to make their marriage work, it was a mess, but above all else he had two beautiful children by her.

how could he, as their father, not be there with them - at their side. Although the walk behind coffin and walks out to see flowers was just all sorts of wrong. I know it’s easy to say so in retrospect but after the first outing to see the flowers and the overwrought public, I would have thought they would have stopped the boys walking a couple days later. It’s easy to say that Harry wanted it, or William, but certainly Harry was too young to make the decision.

Yes, it’s true. They didn’t want to make a fuss as The Queen was living with it for years at Windsor. It will be interesting to see what Charles and William do about them.

I agree Marsha. If movie The Queen was true, it definitely depicted Elizabeth as having the best idea of what to do originally, she had guaged the situation correctly. But media whipped public into a frenzy, and the PM thought he knew better. I think Elizabeth went against her instincts here because of it.

Distancing oneself from the sadness of the whole time, what was interesting to me was how the public did bend Elizabeth to their will. Unfortunately It was a sad time in this instance, but one of those times in history you do see that the people can have the power if they are motivated enough.

I would have thought they would have stopped the boys walking a couple days later.

Perhaps this is where they were caught between whet to do as a family & the tradition of state funerals where the men walk behind?

(I know it wasn't a state funeral & I know they weren't men)

I wonder who first suggested that they do it?

I read somewhere that Philip said he would walk with them if they wanted to?

I really hope that HMQ had more about her than to let her GSs do it as a shield for their father!

If the boys wanted to & were to be allowed to then they all had to imo.

@MarshaMelrose
No- Republic was there but there were other protesters too
Every appearance will now have to cater for planned protest
At least the arresting of individuals holding blank sheets of paper seems to have stopped .

Its a bit circular isn't it. Charles had to walk with his sons but the sons were only walking as a shield for him. Surely it has to be one or the other.

@Morestrangethings Harry says in his book he wanted to walk behind the coffin because he didn't want to let William be alone. He said William would have done the same for him.

I suspect if he/they hadn't done so or been prevented from doing it, they would feel resentment that they didn't show that solidarity with their father and respect for their mother. So it's a situation where you are damned if you do damned if you don't.

@ancientgran I think this 'shield' argument is a bit of internet nonsense. Two sons who love their father and loved their mother and each other, in an awful situation. They would have wanted to support each other. No great conspiracy, just normal human protectiveness. So sad that Harry as destroyed that

The queen made no public statement about the funeral so you don't know what she said

exactly

Though I do think there's a big lie technique going on. But not by the Royal family

There was a lot of public unhappiness at the time about the suggestion the sons would walk behind the coffin. Diana's brother publicly criticised it.
The human shield aspect was well known and even appeared in national newspapers that were not tabloids.

The human shield aspect was well known and even appeared in national newspapers that were not tabloids

Aspect or rumour?

@ExistenceOptional I was alive then and followed the funeral. There was never any aspect of shielding mentioned at the time that I saw. If you think this is correct then link? A lot of conspiracy theories have sprung up in the intervening years, I suspect this is one of them. The idea anyone would have booed Charles or any of the RF at a funeral is absurd anyway.

Sky news seems to dislike the couple

I remember reading articles about it. The idea had not occurred to me which is why I remember it so clearly.

ExistenceOptional · Today 12:09
There was a lot of public unhappiness at the time about the suggestion the sons would walk behind the coffin. Diana's brother publicly criticised it.

I don't remember this at all. Is there a contemporary link?

Give me free access to a newspaper archive and i will find the link.

I don’t remember negative comments either.

I do remember A dear friend was getting married on the day of the funeral & lots of people asking them all if they were going to cancel the wedding out of respect for Diana. Bonkers completely bonkers!

I don't remember negative comments either. From watching coverage from across the pond, it seemed to me that the RF was making choices in response to the level of public near-hysteria that seemed to have overtaken the British public.

What do you actually mean by this?

Shielding as putting the boys there protected Charles from booing out of respect for them?
Or shielding the boys from having to do the walk?

The first is absolute nonsense.

The second has always been a bit controversial because there's pros and cons, but Harry (in his own words wot he rote) says he insisted William would not walk alone, and that William would have done the same for him.

Isn't it a bit immature to use made up names for people one does not know?

Critique all you want, but playground name calling just renders your post that much ineffectual.

I think he will, she might not...they will be bored either way.

They should have the decency to stay away.

The word is not in their vocabulary, of course.

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