Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

Harold is the not particularly lively Chief Impact Officer for BetterUp.

Do I need to ask whether this initiative is routed through the extremely tax efficient and conveniently secretive Delaware registered Archewell?

Betterup is Harry's chimpo business. I thought the same as you. But it actually says that they will give free help to 500 peoole. Of course, it doesn't define what that help is. A one off group session, personalised support over several weeks, etc.

Betterup puts 1% of its profits aside for charitable work. I guess Harry has persuaded them to donate that to Invictus veterans. I think that's great. If he's going to use his fame and lack of knowledge to work for these companies, it's heartening to know he can bring about charitable help for those who need it.

Better Up which Harry is affiliated with is a $4 billion San Francisco company providing the App

Well, if they've got $4billion under their belts I guess they can afford some kind of charitable donation to Invictus, but I agree it's worth keeping an eye on just in case it's not all as philanthropic as it's being painted

No assumptions here, but as ever time will tell

It all looks shady to me. I wonder if America has clear tax and financial investigative agencies as here?

Sorry, derailing my own thread!

I wonder if America has clear tax and financial investigative agencies as here?

It certainly does!!

www.irs.gov/compliance/criminal-investigation/program-and-emphasis-areas-for-irs-criminal-investigation

Personally I’d prefer an article by a psychiatrist like Pemberton, who also works in an emergency dept, to write about alcohol and how the consumption of it is normalised in our countries and how more than any other drug (and it is a drug) it causes more grief to the people who indulge and the people who live with them than any other drug. And how dangerous it is for celebrities to flog it.

No, we can’t have that because too many people like a tipple, as I said - it’s normalised, bottle shop or pub on nearly every corner, weekly specials, have it with your nightly meal, pre dinner drinks - and very few people paying attention to the actual ‘safe limits’ for health. For women it’s a few glasses a week. For men it’s a little more. (not legal limits, but many ignore those too and drive).

And the kids who start drinking are influenced by the actions of their own parents as well as the society they are part of. All those kids have to do is give someone of legal age a few bucks to buy it. Or have false ID.

Let’s address the legal easy availability of the most dangerous drug of all - alcohol first. Nope, that’s too unpopular. One step too far. And big business won’t stand for it.

Drugs are evil, but alcohol -available in a shop near you, or delivered to your door, is just fine. Nothing to see here.

I neither drink nor take any illegal substance but give me a whole bunch of people stoned on weed any day over a whole bunch of drunks.

What on earth is a CHIMPO? It's CIO, isn't it.

Now we will refer to CEO as CHEXO or something ? Who comes up with this nonsense😅

@Puzzledandpissedoff With any luck some good journalists will have a poke around 😂

I don’t understand how Charles has ‘played a blinder’ - this is his son after all. I think by not responding to Harry’s concerns early on, long before they left, that Charles has completely fucked this up. I think the Queen in her 90s was probably too old and tired to sort this and The Queen had a country to head as well. She shouldn’t have had to sort this, Charles is the parent here - and Charles failed miserably. And now it’s a mess he’s supposed to be ‘punitive king putting son in his place.’ It’s 2023 but it seems rroyals are only get held to the parenting standards of 1950s and before.

I don't understand all of the consternation over "but where will they live?!"

Surely there are extra rooms at his father's various palaces, not to mention rich friends and the myriad luxury hotels in London. For people who only nip in and out of the UK for the odd funeral or coronation, what more is needed???

The Corry is a fiasco indeed. First it was going to be slimmed down, then out of the blue it was going full throttle, in the middle of a recession.

As for H&M eviction.

Charles has what? 10 properties sitting empty. He could have moved Andrew to any one of them, but just like when Camilla went for Harry's room for her dressing room out of that Clarence House mansion, he has now gone for Harry's house too, of all places.

Mind you, Frogmore never remained completely empty for all this time as Eugenie and family stayed there at some point - which makes sense for a young growing family.

H&M said they had lots of memories at FC, so Charles and Camilla had to snatch that away.(gosh, remember how quickly Camilla took that National Theatre patronage, when in reality, the senior royal who knows the most about theatre is Edward? What's happening with his DoE title, btw).

Anyway, yes H&M did pay for the 2.4M renovations though they were necessary and needed anyway. On top of which they also paid ,out their own pockets at the time, for any extras (eg. if they wanted cherry wood/fancy taps etc.). Then on top of that they paid the market rate of rent while away.
Posters like to pretend otherwise, but the outcry about the renovations was while they were still working royals.

PS, around the same time KP driveway cost 1M, and no one bat an eyelid.

It will forever bismerch Charles to not have Harry there and Megan and be seen with his gc lily and archie.

The absolute best thing Charles can do is make open generous warm hearted sincere invites to Harry and his family. Have them center stage, hopefully stealing the show...

Yes, very much seriously!

Who is the royal family? They are his family.

It sounds very much like Harry was left to his own devices after Diana died.
Paraded and used by the "Royal family" when the baying public want to see an 11 year olds tears and tossed on the scrap heap when it looks like he won't play ball.

We should all sympathise with Charles as a parent, we know it's hard. We get blamed for all sorts of things.

But Charles has especially fucked up here, monumentally and as the "father of the nation" he needs to show us what forgiveness looks like.

He needs to take the punches just like his own parents had to with his book about them.

Well the ball is in their court, they have been invited so if they decline it won’t ‘bismerch’ Charles at all and as for being ‘centre stage’ and ‘stealing the show’ don’t be silly, this is a state occasion not a family jolly, they are non working royals far down the line of succession who live in another country, the only centre stage will be Charles, Camilla, William, Kate and George, as it should be.

I have read that Harry doesn’t remember much about her - that the trauma of her death caused memory problems about her in those years. That he remembers her cheeky smile and laugh.

We all know Diana was not ‘saintly’ . She was far from perfect, she was very complex and conflicted and had mental health issues which we know about because she talked about it. Now it’s being weaponised against her and we hear ‘crazy, paranoid, unhinged’ etc.. This is a story as old as time. don’t like what a woman has to say? Or how she wishes to live? says she’s crazy, diminish her, and dehumanise her.

Both those parents loved their boys, both made mistakes.

I think the consternation is in people’s minds and on the internet.

How do we know Charles did listen to Harry? Therefore, how can anyone say Charles played a blinder. We don’t know. But the sporting references bother me because it’s adversarial. And as far as I know, adversarial never works in family relationships.

Why does anyone care?

Why care enough to comment on why do people care?

Don't be silly. There won't be small children at the coronation. A lot of brides ban them from weddings for a reason.

DancingDaughter50 · Yesterday 23:08

It sounds very much like Harry was left to his own devices after Diana died.
Paraded and used by the "Royal family" when the baying public want to see an 11 year olds tears and tossed on the scrap heap when it looks like he won't play ball.

W& H were brought back from Balmoral only at the insistence of the P.M. The Queen was said to be furious.
Harry wanted to walk behind the coffin. William took longer to agree. The D of E, no fan of Diana, walked with them for their sake, not hers.

But Charles has especially fucked up here, monumentally and as the "father of the nation" he needs to show us what forgiveness looks like.

He needs to show he is not a pushover towards a pair of grifters who spread dubious tales about his family. Even if the worst offender is his son. If Harry wants forgiveness he could stop merching dubious stories, and apologise for the damage he has already done

Charles had to walk behind the coffin
There was a very real risk that the crowd would abuse Charles
W and H were 'encouraged' to walk - this would protect Charles