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Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

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purpledalmation · 06/02/2023 20:14

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

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ancientgran · 07/03/2023 16:40

Novella4 · 07/03/2023 08:29

Charles had to walk behind the coffin
There was a very real risk that the crowd would abuse Charles
W and H were 'encouraged' to walk - this would protect Charles

I don't know why he had to walk behind the coffin. They had been through an acrimonious split, they were no longer married. I don't know why it was anything to do with him. I certainly wouldn't expect my ex to be involved in my funeral and I can't imagine it would have been what Diana wanted.

ancientgran · 07/03/2023 16:51

DancingDaughter50 · 07/03/2023 14:02

How many full days has Charles ever spent in the full care of his son.

Compleatly looking after him and if that's a step too far, what about total days with endless other help and nannies?
A few days on holiday at Balmoral or Sandringham doesn't really cut it?

Has Harry ever actually lived with him and shared a proper home?

The problem is he's just been absolutely shoved from pillar to post. Was it ever even discussed that Harry and possibly William shouldn't go to an institution to be raised after Diana died?
Maybe they should have gone to day schools and lived with their surviving parent? Or was Charles incapable.

They were at boarding school before she died. How many days did she spend with her sons, caring for them without help? I do remember how she was praised for taking a baby William to Australia, less attention paid to William and his nanny being packed off back to the UK while her and Charles went off on holiday together.

EdithWeston · 07/03/2023 16:53

How many days did she spend with her sons, caring for them without help?

Probably very few, if any. Nannies from babyhood, other staff in later years

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 16:56

ancientgran · 07/03/2023 16:40

I don't know why he had to walk behind the coffin. They had been through an acrimonious split, they were no longer married. I don't know why it was anything to do with him. I certainly wouldn't expect my ex to be involved in my funeral and I can't imagine it would have been what Diana wanted.

The family decided Charles had to walk behind. But there was a real fear people would throw things at him. Making his sons walk with him meant that no one would ever do that. It was to protect Charles.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2023 16:59

I don't know why (Chareles) had to walk behind the coffin. They had been through an acrimonious split, they were no longer married. I don't know why it was anything to do with him

I said the same when he went to Paris to "collect" Diana's body, especially when the two sisters could perfectly well have gone on their own (of course with security staff, etc.)

Obviously it would have been good for the boys to know someone from the family was attending, but the sisters were family too - though perhaps less keen on seizing PR opportunities

ancientgran · 07/03/2023 17:11

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 16:56

The family decided Charles had to walk behind. But there was a real fear people would throw things at him. Making his sons walk with him meant that no one would ever do that. It was to protect Charles.

Which family? His or hers. As an ex it wasn't anything to do with him. I thought it was really odd that he was involved, as I said I wouldn't expect or want my ex to be involved if I died.

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 17:20

It was PR for the Royal Family. Her brother did not want the boys to walk behind the coffin.

Gilmorehill · 07/03/2023 17:24

Perhaps Charles was actually upset to see the mother of his dcs tragically killed at such a young age?

MoChridhe · 07/03/2023 17:28

Charles and camilla very loudly booed in Colchester today
mobile.twitter.com/isexton/status/1633141288089403407

AliceOlive · 07/03/2023 18:09

I noticed a few regulars missing here today!

ancientgran · 07/03/2023 18:47

Gilmorehill · 07/03/2023 17:24

Perhaps Charles was actually upset to see the mother of his dcs tragically killed at such a young age?

Being upset doesn't mean you have to walk behind the coffin.

ancientgran · 07/03/2023 18:50

MoChridhe · 07/03/2023 17:28

Charles and camilla very loudly booed in Colchester today
mobile.twitter.com/isexton/status/1633141288089403407

There were boos and cheers weren't there.

I can't imagine standing in the cold to cheer someone and certainly can't imagine standing in the cold to see someone I dislike so much that I'm going to boo them. Some people haven't got enough to do.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 07/03/2023 19:03

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2023 16:59

I don't know why (Chareles) had to walk behind the coffin. They had been through an acrimonious split, they were no longer married. I don't know why it was anything to do with him

I said the same when he went to Paris to "collect" Diana's body, especially when the two sisters could perfectly well have gone on their own (of course with security staff, etc.)

Obviously it would have been good for the boys to know someone from the family was attending, but the sisters were family too - though perhaps less keen on seizing PR opportunities

I totally disagree, Charles looked distraught, no matter how acrimonious their split she was the mother of his children, he must have been in such shock, it was reported they became more friendly towards the end of her life anyway, and can you imagine if he hadn’t of gone, he would have been utterly destroyed by the press. If I remember correctly it was Charles who insisted that she was brought back as a ‘Royal’ when the Queen did not want her to be, allegedly someone said to the Queen ‘would you rather she was brought back in a Harrods van Ma’am?’ Honestly Charles isn’t perfect but to say he saw it as PR opportunity is awful, he isn’t a monster.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 07/03/2023 19:18

It was down to Charles that Diana’s body came home on the royal flight.

Harry and Meghan and the coronation.
Harry and Meghan and the coronation.
DuchessOfPort · 07/03/2023 19:20

Charles and Diana were on good terms at the time of her death. The mother of his children was killed very suddenly. Of course he was upset! People on here are shocked and sad when they find out their teen ex boyfriend died!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2023 19:29

It was down to Charles that Diana’s body came home on the royal flight

Yes, I'm aware that was reported, but bearing in mind the oppobrium being heaped on Charles at the time I wouldn't want to assume whether it was true or yet more spin

Other reports claimed that Charles's first concern was that everybody was going to blame him, but I wouldn't necessarily trust those either

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2023 19:31

^ opprobrium

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 19:36

They were not on good terms. Charles is far better at reading the public mood than many other Royals and realised Diana had to be flown back on the Royal plane. He realised he would look very cold if he did not treat Diana better in death than he treated her in life.

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 19:37

MoChridhe · 07/03/2023 17:28

Charles and camilla very loudly booed in Colchester today
mobile.twitter.com/isexton/status/1633141288089403407

That is interesting. They seem to be getting booed pretty regularly. This is the time when he should be getting an easy ride as a new King.

PicturesOfDogs · 07/03/2023 19:49

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 19:37

That is interesting. They seem to be getting booed pretty regularly. This is the time when he should be getting an easy ride as a new King.

I’d have thought now would be when they’d be boo’s more tbh.
In 10 years I’d presume everyone would be used to them.

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 19:50

Nah Charles will continue to be controversial, he cant help himself.

MarshaMelrose · 07/03/2023 20:04

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 19:36

They were not on good terms. Charles is far better at reading the public mood than many other Royals and realised Diana had to be flown back on the Royal plane. He realised he would look very cold if he did not treat Diana better in death than he treated her in life.

They were on good terms after the divorce. And she told a few people she still loved him.
Diana was not that popular in the weeks before she died. Charles arranged the flight within hours of her dying. There was no turning of mood by then, nothing to read. They were friendly and she was the mother of his children. That's reason enough to go get her. And yes, he probably did feel guilty that their marriage failed and he was in large part responsible. I'm sure it all played a part in his decision but they were all personal reasons and nothing to do with public mood.

MarshaMelrose · 07/03/2023 20:09

PicturesOfDogs · 07/03/2023 19:49

I’d have thought now would be when they’d be boo’s more tbh.
In 10 years I’d presume everyone would be used to them.

It's just that same Republic group as last time.

ExistenceOptional · 07/03/2023 20:15

They were not friendly. You can keep stating this as a fact but it is not true.

purpledalmation · 07/03/2023 20:16

DancingDaughter50 · 07/03/2023 14:15

Come on!

Diana and Charles divorce was not normal and the children experience was not normal.

Many children around the world grow up in slavery that doesn't mean its OK either.

Are you saying that because William and Harry are princes that sadness at their parents divorce was greater than that of the peasants children? I think you'll find divorce is always painful with many children losing not just one parent on a daily basis, but also their home and school and their stability. H&W didn't lose their home or have to change schools and I believe Charles and Diana made it as easy for them as possible

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