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The royal family

Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

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purpledalmation · 06/02/2023 20:14

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

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BadgerB · 06/03/2023 16:48

notanotheroneagain · Today 12:33
What ? William ? 😂😂😂

You really think she wouldn't have gone for William if he'd been available?
Harry is a bit better looking - but thick. William is the heir. Duchess or Queen? No contest for a social climber.

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 16:50

Gilmorehill · 06/03/2023 16:28

It’s absolutely appalling that a public figure has made these comments about drugs. What a terrible message it sends to young people. H must think he’s pretty fucking untouchable to discuss drug taking publicly.

In my (fucking awful and extensive) experience his attitude is typical of the mentality long-term drug abusers. It’s normal to him. It’s positive. Not a thing wrong with it.

The main difference is that due to his privilege and connections, he is being given a platform to promote this agenda. Anyone behind this program is very suspicious. Our country is already in crisis due to drug use. Our leaders are doing nothing about it and most probably gain from it in some way.

There are articles with family members impacted by drugs talking about this now. Trust me, the entire family already knows and is helpless to stop him.

PicturesOfDogs · 06/03/2023 16:50

Morestrangethings · 12/02/2023 00:22

I’ve seen some of the footage of the coronation of Queen Elizabeth ll. Of course it was in black and white but it seemed the more dramatic for it. One scene stands out in my memory, the lords and ladies in long robes and their royal/aristocratic head gear and the clothing looks white, but it’s all shimmering, it’s as though they are all shimmering, almost inhuman, ghostly entities standing in the rows of pews/ seats on either side of Westminster Abbey with darkness behind them, looking down as the young queen on her throne is crowned. Excellent extraordinary footage - lighting and clothing and black and white celluloid made it look otherworldly. It really was extremely theatrical. Whomever was in charge of the filming knew what they were doing.

I’m obviously not a royalist, but I’ll be watching Charles’ coronation for sure. The Queens’s funeral, all the weddings, Diana’s funeral - happy or sad occasions, they are all also theatre. The Brits really know how to do ceremony. (I’m just not sure how it’s going to go down with so many British people being financially strapped and unable to meet living costs.).

Theres a colour version on YouTube.

Cinematography absolutely unreal for 1953!

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/03/2023 16:57

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 16:50

In my (fucking awful and extensive) experience his attitude is typical of the mentality long-term drug abusers. It’s normal to him. It’s positive. Not a thing wrong with it.

The main difference is that due to his privilege and connections, he is being given a platform to promote this agenda. Anyone behind this program is very suspicious. Our country is already in crisis due to drug use. Our leaders are doing nothing about it and most probably gain from it in some way.

There are articles with family members impacted by drugs talking about this now. Trust me, the entire family already knows and is helpless to stop him.

Not to mention he is publicly admitting to committing crimes. Crimes that less fortunate people are incarcerated for. The blatant privilege and hypocrisy are stunning.

I should wonder that the US authorities aren't flagging this.

mixedrecycling · 06/03/2023 16:58

In fact, it would be seen as quite blasphemous these days (in C of E terms) to be able to turn anyone into a quasi-God. There is no mechanism for appointing saints, and unlike the Catholic faith 'saints' are simply seen as good examples, rather than somehow more godly as individuals.

So no C of E believer would see the coronation as turning Charles into a quasi-god. For anyone of any other faith, the ceremony has no spiritual meaning anyway.

No-one is being conned.

You have every right to be a republican, and promote your beliefs. But do try to be truthful - otherwise you undermine any valid points you make.

JeanMalaga · 06/03/2023 17:01

Who really cares if they show up or if they don’t? I think the tabloids are the most invested in all this, I doubt if any of the RF really want them there, and I doubt H and M want to come either.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 06/03/2023 17:19

His blatant use and promotion of hallucinogenic drugs really should get him removed from the position of Counsellor of State, he is not fit for the role.

MrsGhandi · 06/03/2023 17:21

I've just seen somewhere Meghan was trying to get a part in Made in Chelsea 😂

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 17:26

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/03/2023 16:57

Not to mention he is publicly admitting to committing crimes. Crimes that less fortunate people are incarcerated for. The blatant privilege and hypocrisy are stunning.

I should wonder that the US authorities aren't flagging this.

No it’s grand in the ruling classes in America to admit to drug use. Makes people seem hip. Even Kamala Harris, after a career putting people in prison for marijuana use admitted to using it herself.

EdithWeston · 06/03/2023 17:29

LadyVictoriaSponge · 06/03/2023 17:19

His blatant use and promotion of hallucinogenic drugs really should get him removed from the position of Counsellor of State, he is not fit for the role.

I don't think he'll be removed. No need, as domicile overseas excludes him from carrying out the role.

And who knows what might be the best situation if the family ever decide to return

arghtriffid · 06/03/2023 17:32

I think majority of the public want them there. Harry should attend.

EdithWeston · 06/03/2023 17:42

I've thought all along that they'll be invited.

Totally up to them whether they decide to come or not

Gilmorehill · 06/03/2023 17:53

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/03/2023 16:57

Not to mention he is publicly admitting to committing crimes. Crimes that less fortunate people are incarcerated for. The blatant privilege and hypocrisy are stunning.

I should wonder that the US authorities aren't flagging this.

I wondered about the US authorities as well.

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 18:11

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/03/2023 16:32

Totally agree. He is so, so inappropriate in so many ways. Indiscreet, juvenile, clueless, narcissistic, spiteful.

I really think there is something seriously "off" about him that the RF heretofore were able to cover up.

His professional victimhood is getting old. Diana has been gone for 2/3 of his life; get on with it, already. My dad died in horrible circumstances too, and I don't parlay that into monetary gain and sympathy bids from everyone I encounter, or use as an excuse not to do anything productive with my life.

I had a postcard of M&H in a little frame in my living room from their engagement photos, till long after the wedding. (tongue in cheek but I generally wished them well and was excited for them). That's been binned.

Zero respect.

I haven't seen the whole thing, I only ever see the bits on the news, but I couldn't believe how he sat there waxing lyrical about how wonderful he felt on illicit drugs. He really is a nightmare, I was thinking of the parents dealing with kids drug taking or trying to warn kids not to do it and then they hear that. I think it was criminally irresponsible.

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 18:14

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 17:26

No it’s grand in the ruling classes in America to admit to drug use. Makes people seem hip. Even Kamala Harris, after a career putting people in prison for marijuana use admitted to using it herself.

It's a bit different isn't it, I mean marijuana is legal in some states, I don't think hallucinogenic drugs are legal are they? I've worked in mental health and seen some of the kids who are permanently damaged by this sort of experiment and I don't think he should have said it.

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 18:19

Has he also said he didn't get hugged as a child? I read that somewhere. Surely the Sainted Diana hugged her children.

Plitvice · 06/03/2023 18:21

Hallucinogenic drugs have always been the height of cool, especially where he lives. These drug ceremonies in California and over the border have always been fashionable.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/03/2023 18:30

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 18:19

Has he also said he didn't get hugged as a child? I read that somewhere. Surely the Sainted Diana hugged her children.

I was alive and a news junkie when Diana was engaged, married, became a mother, etc. Those boys were lavished with love and hugs and warmth.

Whether Charles kept that up after Diana died, who knows? But he was not deprived or shunted aside as a child; quite the reverse.

He needs counseling, not by some celebrity guru or sycophant, but a private, objective, no-nonsense psychotherapist. Imagine revolving your entire life around this ginned-up persona of victimhood and woe?? His disrespect for the queen is something I won't soon get over.

He needs to get out there and do something productive that doesn't rely on celebrity. Their president Jimmy Carter was swinging a hammer in his 90s on building homes for poor people; Harry should be doing something like that, not trading on his neuroses and family gossip.

wordler · 06/03/2023 18:36

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 18:14

It's a bit different isn't it, I mean marijuana is legal in some states, I don't think hallucinogenic drugs are legal are they? I've worked in mental health and seen some of the kids who are permanently damaged by this sort of experiment and I don't think he should have said it.

Marijuana is legal in some states, and certain hallucinogenic drugs are also legal in some areas for certain uses.

Here's where in the USA you can use hallucinogens for medical use.

www.verywellmind.com/where-are-psychedelics-legal-for-therapeutic-use-6827701

The more interesting issue for Harry (well, if he was just regular guy on the street Harry) is that in his book he admits taking drugs before he lived in the US. To get a visa to live in the US you are usually asked if you have taken any illegal substances. Answering yes, or lying and getting found out usually results in a visa refusal, or a ban.

Nigella Lawson was famously refused entry to the US after she admitted drug use during a court case in the UK. She had to apply for a special waiver - which can take months.

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/nigella-lawson-banned-from-entering-united-states-after-the-celebrity-chef-admitted-taking-illegal-drugs-9234134.html

Now Harry has admitted drug use it's possible when he leaves the country he would not be allowed to fly back without a special waiver, which could leave him stranded outside the US for a long time.

BillLius · 06/03/2023 18:49

Where would he live then if he can’t use Frogmore Cottage?

Plitvice · 06/03/2023 18:52

It is all part of the attention seeking with druggies I'm afraid 'Hey look at me dad/bro', I'm a naughty boy!'. If he has problems entering the US again, the same attention-seeking 'oh, it's so unfair!'
They don't really change as they get older but, hey, he lives in the right state, he wont be the only one carrying on like that into old age. He's in good company. 😄

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 19:17

There will be zero repercussions in the US. The president’s son wrote a book about his drug use. We’ve seen pictures of him doing much worse.

I do see personally difference between an elected official who touted being tough on crime, who put black men in jail for marijuana related offenses hyping her own drug use for popularity and a dumb ass flogging his own idiot ideas for $. Both are dangerous, though.

headstone · 06/03/2023 19:24

The president’s son is a citizen though.

AliceOlive · 06/03/2023 19:31

headstone · 06/03/2023 19:24

The president’s son is a citizen though.

Yeah, and Harry the son of a King. No one will go after him.

Even the wealthy here get away with shit a poor person cannot. I promise the offspring of a reigning monarch won’t be busted for just talking about using drugs. What authority would bother to open an case and investigate?

headstone · 06/03/2023 19:38

AliceOlive I suppose it would only happen if he were to push someonev important off (other than his father). However I agree it’s very unlikely as it would look bad diplomatically.

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