Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

I understand why people are republican by conviction. As I have posted on other threads, I agree there is plenty to say against anyone inheriting a job/role instead of earning it. But - Brexit being a useful warning - I would want a fully thought out proposal of the alternative, with costs and benefits, before I would vote for change. Voting against something is easy, but then you are left with the issue of what replaces it.

I don't understand why people have so much emotionally invested that they resort to silly names - 'Chuck', con-a-nation - instead of focussing on the underlying issues.

Or insist that anyone disagreeing with them must enjoy forelock-tugging, are stupid, have no understanding of history or constitutional law etc

It seems a bit delusional to me, with a desperate emotional investment in the issue.

Most people I know aren't that interested one way or the other - they welcome an extra bank holiday, are mildly republican/royalist, but of the opinion that there are much bigger issues at stake to make the country (and world) a more equitable place.

All of this. An excellent post.

@Novella4 could you clarify what the nation is being 'conned' about?

That would help me understand your point of view.

Totally agree.

There is a small but prolific group of posters on this board who assume anyone who doesn't share their view is a gormless 'royalist' who passively believes everything they are 'fed' by the media and holds some rather medieval views about the innate superiority of the royals. They, by contrast, are modern, sophisticated citizens with sharp critical thinking skills, even though evidence of this is hard to come by in their posting history.

I think that an invitation is a poisoned chalice because there’s a possibility (like at the Jubillee and Funeral) that they will be excluded, mocked and relegated around logistics.

They will be invited to some bits and very publicly excluded from others - maybe due to protocol of working Royals and maybe due to a punishment and keeping them out of the way.

I suspect the ‘email correspondence’ is not yet an invitation more a negotiation that is being hammered out. The balance of power lies with KC currently.

Must be difficult.

On the one hand the animosity you feel towards them & in return the animosity that you now fear from them

On the other hand-you father's coronation & all the years you must have expected to be an integral part of it!

Isn't it the Earl Marshal who formally issues invitations to a Coronation?

If the 'email correspondence' was with the King's office, then it's unlikely to be an invitation. Especially as I really don't think an invitation to a Coronation would be sent as an email attachment.

After all - fewer than half of UK citizens define themselves as CofE. The 'anointed by God' aspect is a CofE service. And, knowing quite a few Anglicans, I would say that a good proportion of Anglicans don't believe in Divine Right. After all, that was what the Civil War and Glorious Revolution were about, followed by the Georgian dynasty being invited to head up the monarchy ahead of the 50 or so people more nearly involved.

So the vast majority of UK citizens do not see the coronation as anything other than a ceremony to mark the installation of a new head of state.

In what way are they being 'conned'?

@IcedPurple I'm actually not a royalist or only mildly so. I like the ceremonial side and think most of the RF are normal people in an abnormal situation. Because I don't like H&M for the obvious reasons I'm labelled a dumb royalist with no great ability except to swallow the media BS then regurgitate it. Of course I get my information from the media in all its forms, and when I asked a supporter, where did they get theirs, there was a deafening silence.

I think my disgust and outrage is that someone takes so much from a family... fame, money, status, titles and affection from the public, then turns and stabs them in the back to make money from them, blowing up any privacy they had in the process.

Unfortunately it's like trying to look away at a car crash.

Great post @mixedrecycling

You forelock tugger, you 😂

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iced purple

There is a small but prolific group of posters on this board who assume anyone who doesn't share their view is a gormless 'royalist' who passively believes everything they are 'fed' by the media and holds some rather medieval views about the innate superiority of the royals. They, by contrast, are modern, sophisticated citizens with sharp critical thinking skills, even though evidence of this is hard to come by in their posting history.

Another great post.

Consider me tugged 😉

Surely a contingent of Beefeaters will be despatched in full regalia to unravel a parchment and announce "By Command of The King...."

"Three cheers. They're coming"!

Oh so just see headline saying Harry and Megan wouldn't miss it.

I honestly really really hope they go and that Megan pulls out all the stops.

@mixedrecycling

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They didn’t have email in 1953.

@ mixedrecycling

There is a huge difference between an inauguration and a 'coronation'
Which is why all other European monarchies have long abandoned them .

It is this sort of distinction that royalists don't seem to be aware of . Hence my belief that many of them don't fully understand what is is they are supporting .

The way some posters froth you'd think they believe royalty is real
( you do know it isn't dont you? I wonder sometimes )

I look forward to @Novella4 's explanation of how we (and the Great British Public) are being conned...

In the meantime, keep tugging those forelocks!

Thank you for that information.

My point was that invitations are issued by the Earl Marshal, not the King. And I doubt they'd be sent via Hotmail.

I'd also like to know how one 'froths'.

Is it obvious ?

Anyone who think royalty is real has been conned .

For a detailed breakdown of the con read :
'And what do you do? By a former privy councillor Norman Baker

A post wont cover it .
I've asked royalists why they won't read it . Never hear back

www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/and-what-do-you-do

They will definitely steal the show if they come and I hope they do and they do steal the show.

I wonder what colours one could wear to a coronation

I'm not a 'royalist', whatever that is, but I've read Baker's book. It's well researched and informative. Also worth mentioning that unlike some here, Baker mostly confines his criticism to factual matters regarding the institution of the monarchy and some of its members. He does not indulge in asinine personal insults, while hero worshipping two members of the royal family and applauding their every attention seeking antic. Nor does he assume that anyone who disagrees with him is a 'frothing' 'forelock tugger'.