Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

What happened to the Kate/Meghan effect? I thought that was the point that these women's wardrobes are there to boos sales - at least that is what we were told about Kate.

I do remember a small local jeans company and a handbag one saying they were about to close down before MM wore their items and boosted sales.

MM's wardrobe price gets inflated by the media because they always include her gifted jewellery. Which they don't with Kate - fashionistas have already shown us the receipts.
The few very expensive items for the wedding and engagement will probably end up in a museum like other royal women, presumably. I remember an exhibition for Diana, HMQE, Margaret etc.

As for her unable to wear great clothes before? It's all well documented on the Tig. MM was a staple on the red carpet and had her own extensive collection.
Charles only paid for MM's working wardrobe anyway. So I don't see what the problem is.

And what awareness and needed funding would that be raising ?

All this rewriting of history.

Are we supposed to have the memories of a goldfish at times.

We are now supposed to forget that Tony Blair pays for his own security when not at home. And Kate Moss also paid for her own jaunt protected by the met.

Ravec has the same courtiers who have been thwarting Harry as representatives from the palace, so they would advice the home office of who needs security from the RF. This was named as Edward Young in court. Harry, being so close to the mornach, will always need security till George takes over.

I clearly stated that Charles pays for other people's security (it doesn't have to be the met, btw) with no problems at all, but suddenly had no money nor care for MM. Whom MI5 had gone and telly and told us has had and has incredibly high risk that they have teams assigned to her and H.

notanotheroneagain · Today 09:02
This is a lie, she never brought her own photographer. She quietly went in wearing a cap and jeans. The photographers were already there covering the story.

The story was one or two days old. No possibility the photographs (plural) were still hanging around the graves sites by chance. And the cap and jeans was no doubt meant to convey "just passing by" in my private jet. Whilst she is not nearly as slow-witted as Harry, she still sometimes doesn't get it.

I don't have an issue with Kate spending on clothes because Kate is doing the job she signed up to do. She never took all the expensive outfits and publicity and monetized it for her own fame and fortune. She has been there for absolutely ages doing whatever is agreed. You may not think it is much of a job or that she does enough but she is doing everything she is meant to do and behaving in a way which boosts the profile of the RF brand.
If you were going to do a runner a few months in because the job never worked out (for whatever reason) then the dignified thing to do would be to give it all back including the cost of the white wedding (which the Queen was not keen to pay for in the first place).
However, she took it all with her along with freebies which showed her up as greedy.

Are you fine with all the helicopter flights William took? Flights that even the Queen criticised. Costs an absolute fortune but everyone always focuses on the women.

That's my understanding too, @Lizziet64 Completely against protocol for the immediate heirs to the throne to travel together in the same aircraft. Very easy to search that story.

This is also why the Queen Mother death announcement stuff in Spare doesn't ring true. Apart from the obvious, provable fact that Harry was with his dad and brother in Cloisters when they found out, not alone at Eton as he makes out in the book, Harry, William and Charles flew back home together on the same flight - an occurrence that must have been rare if not unprecedented for the boys, and therefore, one would think, memorable.

Later on Archewell tried to help in some way. You would have complained if she did not go to to such a significant occurrence in her own state.

Where exactly do you think Uvalde is located?

Ulvade is in the United States of America - where MM lives, did you confuse the Spanish name for somewhere else?

don't have an issue with Kate spending on clothes because Kate is doing the job she signed up to do. She never took all the expensive outfits and publicity and monetized it for her own fame and fortune

MM was criticised for her wardrobe while she was working for the palace. Doing her job.

@BadgerB We are told Meghan is sharp savvy and intelligent. Looking at the evidence I'd say she has vastly overestimated these traits.

The story was one or two days old. No possibility the photographs (plural) were still hanging around the graves sites by chance. And the cap and jeans was no doubt meant to convey "just passing by" in my private jet. Whilst she is not nearly as slow-witted as Harry, she still sometimes doesn't get it.

There were photographers, the public were there to put down flowers and tributes. The press covered it in the news. What are you on about ?

Which they are doing now.

My point being that Charles has no issues paying for people who have never worked for him, ever, not even married in or part of the RF (therefore less threat). Yet, has issues with paying for his own son and grandson. He was not taking H calls and refusing to meet.
Hell, he is even paying for those accused of noncing.

You wrote “her state”. Meghan lives in the state of California. Uvalde is in the state Texas.

And I assure you, no one expects her not Harry to show up to anything. She has no public role or title in this country. No one expects retired actresses married to foreign royalty to do anything in the United States.

FFS, do you think we are still a colony or something?

And it’s Uvalde. At least have some respect snd spell it properly if you’re going to condone the publicity stunts on the backs of people who suffered such a tragedy.

and no, I’m not confused. I’ve been there and spent time in that part of my country long before you were here misspelling it and calling it part of “Meghan’s state”

I suggest you come up stronger arguments than my rushed spellings.

How does anyone read a full thread and not understand what is being said and meant anyway?

I don't call up people on this, because I'm not effing stupid!

You said “in her own state” - that’s not a rushed spelling.

How does someone so intent on defending MM not know where her own state is? Unless they’re effing stupid, of course.

No one with any understanding of the United States would write that Uvalde was in “Meghan’s state”.

No one with any comprehension of how things function here would say that someone with no public role here would be expected to show up at such a tragic event or else be criticized. She is not an elected official, not a leader in this country in any capacity.

I cannot state strongly enough that no one here really cares about them or expects anything of them. That’s why we thought they moved here, to be free to just live like normal people. If they wanted to be prince and princess, they should have stayed in the UK.

That’s why so many were all thinking “what’s she doing there?”when the photos came out. It’s likely there were other, more famous people there who made sure no one reported it.

At least she didn’t write that Uvalde was part of Meghan’s kingdom. Though is suspect she was thinking it.

She doesn't have to be elected anything.

That is why celebrities raise awareness for any tragedy or situation. She is well known, and good on her for using her platform to raise some money for the school and victims.

H&M are so unknown that their Netflix show is the most watched and the book is highest selling. All in millions views.

Yeah right.

Do you really fucking think we need anyone to “raise awareness” when a school full of children gets shot up in America?!

What do you think the money does? It does nothing.

She did this to raise her own profile. Otherwise she wouldn’t have had quotes and press releases about the visit. She’s not raising money on go fund me, the money comes from massively wealthy donors. It comes via phone calls, not publicity tours.