Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

Exactly - people criticised them as working royals. Which goes against the claim that they weren’t criticised.

All working royals are criticised for their expenditure. All of them. Even against that background, Meghan’s spending on clothes was also far larger than anyone else’s.

I guess, that was the first year of her working though so she needed to build up a 'working royal' wardrobe. Not that that lasted very long!

Every wardrobe need a 90k maternity evening gown 😀

Meghan’s wardrobe was largely fabulous, and most of the coverage was very complimentary but a few expensive missteps were criticised.

That's where I went wrong. I had mainly secondhand but I did have one new dress, it was from C&A and I think it was about a fiver. If only I'd had a 90k dress life might have been different.

@skullbabe
No one complained about the money paid out to renovate froggmore cottage until after the couple decided to leave. Over £2 million spent on a house left empty. This was the only complaint, not the renovations themselves. Even the couple felt this was a justified complaint. Why else repay the money?

Clothes. Well if you're going to spend £50 or 60K on a see through dress you wear once, maybe justified? Actually FIL paid for that, but I didn't specify clothing, although thousands of pounds spent on clothing worn once is simply unjustifiable. Unless you are saying, in the depths of a recession with poverty everywhere, that level of spending was OK? Ok, then, it that's how you feel. Tell that to the food bank volunteers.

I'm not and have never been aggressive and spiteful in any of my posts. Please point out where and I will apologise or clarify?

I stand by my comments about family. Meghans dad is literally heartbroken at the rejection of his beloved daughter. He did a stupid thing and regrets it. Who doesn't?

I don't love the royal family, not is the slightest, just believe you don't treat a family who love you the way they have been treated.

@Bugeyedowl And we only have Harry's word that the RF planted and leaked stories. I'm sure their staff did but not with approval, but just for a few backhanders from the press. Pay isn't too good I believe.

@purpledalmation

''You clearly, in that case, think it's ok to say nasty things about your family knowing they will never refute what you say? Plaster snarky comments all over twitter, Facebook and whatever about how your brother is balding? Of course a book is different to SM only insofar as it's printed, but the effect is the same. I'm glad I'm not part of your family if that is the case''

But they were already hated? They were constantly skated in the media BEFORE any of that?

Two wrongs don't make a right. I personally had no issue with them before they left and thought it was the best thing for both of them. I don't read crap on SM or newspapers. I thought they would genuinely build a life based on charity work and feminist and philanthropic works. If they'd just done this they would have gained a lot of respect and kept a close relationship with the royal family. Harry always wanted out so Meghan did him a favour. I can't understand why they thought it was a good idea to slate the RF but it is what it is so everyone picks up the pieces.

People always say. Oh but I had no problem before… insert random thing, then follow with how they should have done this or that.
completely forgetting that these are 2 people that are part of the royal family. Who need to earn money.
fine for members of the royal family to go on I’m a celebrity, but how dare H&M earn money.
yet if they go quiet. We get Threads asking where is Meghan, the hypocrisy on here is mind blowing

No matter how you frame it. Earning money solely by slagging off your family is never going to be pretty or end well. No one minds them earning money, but instead of going down a well trodden route of philanthropy, they decided there was far more to be made by exposing a private woman in a tale of losing your virginity, or making up stories about being married in secret before the actual ceremony.

I honestly wonder why people are so blind to the sheer nastiness of it. The newspapers here were vile, but they always are. SM was far more damaging, so why not just talk about the effect that had? Changing media coverage of royalty, celebrities and just ordinary people would be a useful life's work, but no, Williams baldness and Losing his looks was so much more lucrative.

Precisely the point. Another poster was claiming that Meghan was not criticised before they left.

You do not know what Meghan was able to buy before she was married. It does nothing for your cause to claim that she was unable to afford her own holidays when that is demonstrably false. You will need to provide evidence as to what freebies she received which were above and beyond her role as an actress and her blog. You will also need to provide evidence for the assertion that the British public would have not been critical of Chelsey for spending on new clothes because her family come from money. There is never an acceptable amount that is the right amount - the royal brides need to be well dressed but not too well dressed, they need to recycle but not too much otherwise they’ll be criticised for that, they need to wear the high street but not too much, they can’t stay at home whilst pregnant and cut down the amount of engagements (and the clothes needed for them) or else they be slated for that too. (I’ll never forget Kate being criticised remorselessly on this site for the temerity of having hyperemesis and not working hard enough wasting taxpayers money before Meghan came on the scene)

Chelsey very luckily stayed away from this circus and is now happily married with a little one.

“No one complained about the money paid out to renovate froggmore cottage until after the couple decided to leave.”

Unfortunately this is not true - they were being criticised for Frogmore before (copper bathtub anyone?)

She does like a couture dress.

“Clothes. Well if you're going to spend £50 or 60K on a see through dress you wear once, maybe justified?”

All royals have large ticket items which are single use but you don’t know if she would have worn it once and we will never know now. The royal family is a catch 22 for the women - they have to look good and well turned out but not rewear the same thing too much but also also recycle clothes. This leads to some royals wearing similar clothes to what they have worn before which gives them the recycle kudos without many people noticing that they have bought new (Catherine has done this a few times and well done her - stops people criticising her for new clothes).

Everything they do to some people is somehow critical of the royal family. (Literally Meghan breathing, doing a podcast, reading to her child, visiting Uvalde - all of these things have been taken as an affront to the RF by many on MN - who knows why)

Harry wrote over 400 pages - your focus is on one paragraph about a teenage indiscretion.

Supposing your presupposition that the ceremony before was a lie - what money would that earn them?

skullbabe · Today 01:32
(Literally Meghan breathing, doing a podcast, reading to her child, visiting Uvalde - all of these things have been taken as an affront to the RF by many on MN - who knows why)

Uvalde! Perhaps the worse mis-step M has made. How could even a narcissist like her think a photo-op among such terrible grief was a good look? Nothing to do with the RF

I think KC asking for the public not to boo carries much weight.
People will boo anyway,, there might even be a bit of random egg throwing by those prepared to risk arrest.
I can understand why KC want the whole family there, its a historic occasion after all.

@skullbabe
Harry wrote over 400 pages - your focus is on one paragraph about a teenage indiscretion

Supposing your presupposition that the ceremony before was a lie - what money would that earn them?

Yes he wrote 400 pages and I picked out one incident. I could have picked out dozens. Claims he was a spare in terms of medical conditions afflicting William. Utterly ridiculous and utter lack of understanding of how transplants work (bone marrow requires IVF), williams balding, private conversations, criticisms of kate. I could go on and on. Making money off the RF he detests (while hanging on to their titles!

The married 3 days before the ceremony was lied about on the Netflix reality show, for which they earned millions $.

As I said selling out your family for money. Hope he enjoys his 30 pieces of silver.

Meghan got very little criticism until she started acting like a diva and bullying staff. Why should palace staff not speak up? Do the little people not matter?

Rocking up at a school shooting with her own photographer in America was another misstep. She is tone deaf.

I think the message is sinking in now.

This is a lie, she never brought her own photographer. She quietly went in wearing a cap and jeans. The photographers were already there covering the story.

Later on Archewell tried to help in some way. You would have complained if she did not go to to such a significant occurrence in her own state.

“Cap and jeans” 🤣 Meghan always alerts photographers. Their “private” trips always seem to involve a photogenic pose captured.

Going right back I understand that is why Kate didn’t want her on the shopping trip: a photographer would have “quite coincidentally” leapt out from behind a clothes rail in Harvey Nicks.