Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

This sums it up.

Plus many otherwise sympathetic people are disgusted that they caused the queen such distress in her final years. They could have retreated discreetly and bided their time until she died.

Wouldn't it be massively hypocritical of them to attend anyway? Oh yes of course, hypocrisy is nothing new to them .... and there is no way in hell that he would attend and her stay at home out of the spotlight.

Omg. No way do I hate Megan and Harry which seems to be implied if you don’t agree with what they have done. I talk from someone who is NC with the majority of my family for reasons that are far far more serious than the tit of tat trival we have heard.
but this is our kings Coronation, a huge event in the U.K. it should not be over shadow by “sis Megan look at Camilla, did Harry did william a dirty look. This is a major Ceremony and is so important to our traditions. The last thing I want to hear is “ they have not apologised for eating my sweet when they were five” comments.

Even the Americans, who were the primary audience, were not as gullible as expected

A bit unfair, perhaps, when there's a lot more to "Americans" than just those who shriek on Twitter and the like?

I agree entirely, I may look cynically on some of their behaviour and point out where I’ve believed they’ve lied or embellished, but I’ve also complimented them on occasion and hoped they do well in a positive life l

but that’s not enough for some 🤷‍♀️ you either love them uncritically or you’re a hater

I think that Meghan is ambitious and pushes hard to get what she wants and is obviously very determined. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If only it could be done without denigrating members of Harry's family.

I really don't think most people would care how they make their money as long as it didn't involve trading on the supposedly terrible time they had inside the RF.

Unfortunately because they have gone down that route they have lost a lot of the support they might have had. I think leaving was the best thing for them. It is how they have behaved after leaving that has caused all the ructions.

Meghan was never going to fit into the role of a working royal. It is so far from the life she had before. That is not a criticism of her merely an observation that a liberal actress from California who had her own career before marriage would be very unlikely to be happy with restricting what she said and the causes she wanted to become involved with.

Yes, these people complained when Harry and Meghan lived off the taxpayer (but not the rest of the royals strangely), and now they complain when they make their own money. They need to make it make sense, but we won't get that from them.

Bugeyedowl · Today 12:18
and now they complain when they make their own money. They need to make it make sense, but we won't get that from them.

No one would complain that they make their own money. It's HOW they make it that inspires disgust

@Bugeyedowl
Yes, these people complained when Harry and Meghan lived off the taxpayer (but not the rest of the royals strangely), and now they complain when they make their own money. They need to make it make sense, but we won't get that from them

No one complained about H&M living off the taxpayer when they were working royals. They were employees and were being paid. Where is the evidence people resented paying for them?
Obviously they must make their own money, but again they are making this purely by criticising an institution they profess to hate yet won't relinquish their titles. Utterly hypocritical and confusing.

How would they make money from charity work?

People complained about Meghan’s wardrobe and the cost of renovating Frogmore cottage - very vocally.

How does any employee of a charity make money doing charitable work? By drawing a salary that is made up from a proportion of charitable donations. Archwell is, as I understand it, registered in the state of Delaware. Different states have different rules about what proportion of a charitable foundation's received donations/earnings can be paid out as expenses and salaries. I understand that Delaware allows a very high percentage of a charity's income to be paid out in this way. (I've seen 95% quoted for Delaware compared to 60% for California, although I don't know if that's correct). Delaware also does not have dedicated attorney general oversight of charities registered there, and has advantageous tax laws for non-profits.

@purpledalmation You are exhausting. I suggest you calm down. You always seem quite spiteful and aggressive in your posts.

I didn't bring up racism did I? But now you mention it I do think they have a point. Why is complaining about racism a cesspit anyway? It is most certainly a valid complaint.

The common denominator with all of the above (excluding inheritances) is they are dragging the name of the people who loved them through the mud (including meghans dad) to make that money

Meghan's dad. Are you serious? He has no loyalty to her, who would sell private letter from his daughter to the Mail? Not to mention colluding with the press in the run up to the wedding. We all have toxic family members - Meghan is perfectly within her rights to cut them off. Just because her dad paid for her private school or whatever doesn't make him a model father. He said he was going to keep hounding her in the press until she responds - that is not what a loving father would do. And the sister... well, where to begin with that one. A really poisonous and jealous snake just waiting to pounce on the slightest thing to make money out of her sister. Seems Meghan marrying a prince brought out the worst in the Markle family – this is not Meghan's fault. Or are they exemplary because they're white, and so Meghan is automatically in the wrong?

Harry - instead of attacking him for speaking out, anyone with an ounce of sense will know that there are two sides to every story. I don't think Harry is being dishonourable at all, I actually think it's quite brave, to call them out on their crap, and take the flak for it. Or are you one of those types who think everyone should just put up and shut up when it comes to family, no matter how toxic?

The royals leaking and planting stories against H&M (and each other), secretly, is what is extremely dishonourable. These are the people we are supposed to look up to. There is no loyalty in that family. They are staying quiet not out of "dignity" but more of a "stick together and keep schtum" kind of thing.
Their motto "never complain, never explain" is just a way to keep the public like you adoring and unquestioning. Why don't you use some critical thinking yourself and look at their actions?

I think what rubbed people up the wrong way was that Meghan comes from a very ordinary working class background but was spending the RFs money like it came naturally to her. This was widely interpreted as being vulgar and showy, especially because she was ungrateful as well. I would say that a girl like Chelsey would not have been seen in the same way as it would have been the life to which she was accustomed.
However, there aren't many women who would behave as Meghan did full stop. It is the massive sense of entitlement which made her unlikeable and a desperation to shove her image as a bashful, young ingenue down the public's throat when she was nothing of the sort. She is still doing it and contradicting herself very badly. Diana was the only fresh faced, doe-eyed, young bride in the RF recent history. Why try and emulate it if you just aren't that?

It is apparent from this very thread that some people would be critical of them if they took a salary from their charity.

Exactly - people criticised them as working royals. Which goes against the claim that they weren’t criticised.

Meghan looks good in her clothes but £500k on maternity clothes seems OTT to me.

I saw a report in Grazia.fr that Meghan was expecting a third baby. Would give her an excuse not to go.

I think the issue is that you might be forgetting is that Meghan was hardly poor when she met Harry - she certainly had a fair bit of her own wealth and already was able to purchase her own clothes and bags before Harry. No where close to the RF of course - and understandable if people felt that she was profligate because of the public purse.

The thing I find very interesting is how you feel about her as opposed to Chelsey Davy in your hypothetical. The premise that Chelsey - Chelsey who went to Girls College Bulawayo - Chelsey would be the one people would accept spending an equal and wouldn’t think of as entitled. If that were the case - I wonder why that would be?

Most women can buy their own clothes and bags. She could not even buy a flat (and she was middle aged at that point). Her 'acting' roles explained her actual wealth but I am sure the intensive social climbing was paying for freebies and holidays.

Chelsey attended British public school and is from one of the wealthiest families in Zimbabwe. Therefore, if she spent like (brand) new money, I would be very surprised but if she wanted to, then I am sure she could do it from her own wealth. The thing that is vulgar is spending another families money and criticizing them.

The very expensive maternity dress reminds of my old boss wining & dining a potential client who purposely ordered a hugely expensive bottle of wine as he knew he wouldn’t be picking up the tab. My boss wasn’t impressed at all with this behaviour

it’s allowed, but it’s not right either.