Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

[purpledalmation]

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

I agree to a point, but I do feel there is a slight difference.

The Wales children's photos are very formal - 1st day of school type things, in the garden.

They've never (that I've been aware of) released images of their children in the bath, or in their bedrooms.

Neither have their images been sold as part of a reality TV show for profit by their parents.

Hand holding. Fake tears. Speculation. People were rather nasty about them even being there.

Do yourself a favour, and don't bother giving it any headspace.

I think it began with Omid Scobie seemingly acting as a press secretary for them, by tweeting their travel plans.

Once he stopped, I was just glad they were there and that everyone seemed to be putting aside differences and presenting a unified front, in honor of the Queen.

I can’t answer for anyone who hates them. I don’t.

But I can tell you I thought they were absolutely great until they publicly announced plans for a new role which obviously had not been discussed with the Queen. I would find it equally obnoxious if someone at work did that without official sanction.

And the “everyone can live a life of service” reply to the Queen just doubled down on the whole thing. She didn’t need nor deserve this kind of behavior from either of them.

Then the Oprah interview. It kept getting worse.

I was waiting for them to just stop whinging and work things out like adults, but after Harry and Spare And the ensuing interviews, I don’t see it happening. They can’t be trusted by anyone now.

You do realise H&M get zero money from the Royals or the UK taxpayers don't you? Of course they need to make money since King Chucky cut their funds and security. Do you expect them to live off fresh air?? Or would you prefer they just died?

They are not sharing their kids' pics for "hard cash" (nice sleazy way of putting it though), but sharing their pics as part of their story on a TV show under their control. Which of course makes them money. And good for them, I'm glad they've made so much money for themselves. And can pay for their own security. And I LOVE that people like you hate that

notanotheroneagain · Yesterday 19:38
Twitter is no echo chamber for me.
For some reason, all sorts are thrown my may. Can't tell you how many I had to block and say 'not interested' etc.
Ironically, they helped me come across H&M supporters who have viable screenshots for me to save. The other way around are full of crap. So I block. Been and alway will be open minded about things.

This is actually, and I'm sure unintentionally, funny. Always open- minded - except I block anything I disagree with cos it's obviously crap

Ofcourse I block nonsense.

I already see someone will be talking nonsense if they call MM names and refere H&M as 'markles' or even worse 'harkles'. Don't get me started on the photoshop and references to 'moon bumps' moving.

I think the issue with the security and taking away money, is that it was all done suddenly.
I'm sure people thought, fair enough. However, Charles has paid for security privately for Camilla as well as Andrew recently.

He also set up a trust fund for Camilla's children before he and camilla got married. Yet, cut his son off unceremoniously after Harry's lifetime of service.

Sadly if they did come it would totally dominate the whole of the media. They have made their feelings clear and if they think so little of the royal family who are actually Harry’s family to cause such embarrassment then they should Stay away. Who is right in all this is not the issue. Harry totally disrespected his family. He was disloyal to his Dad and his brother all in the attempt to get his point across. They want a life outside the Royals they have it. I hope they enjoy it.

“Or would you prefer they just died?”

• what a dreadful thing to say @Bugeyedowl you should be ashamed.

But they do want money from UK taxpayers though, hence the legal case for funded security. They're still hankering after the half in half out deal.

It's strange that you dislike any UK citizen having an opinion about them.

You clearly, in that case, think it's ok to say nasty things about your family knowing they will never refute what you say? Plaster snarky comments all over twitter, Facebook and whatever about how your brother is balding? Of course a book is different to SM only insofar as it's printed, but the effect is the same. I'm glad I'm not part of your family if that is the case.

I agree. It confirmed, rather than refuted, everybody's worst suspicions about their obsession to grab power and money for themselves, despite putting in very little to deserve it or having the qualities to justify it. It's been downhill ever since.

@Bugeyedowl Oh no, I though H&M were still being supported by the British taxpayer! Oh my goodness, I've just crawled out from under that rock to realise this bleeding obvious fact.

Of course they're not. They were being supported though by a large inheritance from Diana (a member of the RF) and the queen mother, initially. Then they sold out to Netflix for a glorified reality show, an interview with OW telling multiple lies and a book so filled with inaccuracies and yet more whinging and self pity, plus some very very nasty behaviour by H.

The common denominator with all of the above (excluding inheritances) is they are dragging the name of the people who loved them through the mud (including meghans dad) to make that money.

What a despicable thing to do. It shows no honour or decency, and I hope you one day can see them for who they are. I don't waste time hating them but I sure hate the way they behave. Maybe if you exercised some critical thinking and got your head out of the racism cesspit they created and look at their actions you would have a change of mind. You don't need to love or hate anyone, just look at their actions and not listen to their word salad.

I'm sure they have other revenue sources but I just say thanks one of them is not me.

Re the children. Harry cried crocodile tears (metaphorical) over his childhood in the spotlight, yet is happy for his own children to be exploited for money. Those kids images (bath etc) are out there forever.

@Plitvice I totally agree. For a woman who feels she is highly intelligent and media savvy, Meghan and by association, Harry's, management of the whole sorry circus post Megsit, has been a disaster.

Even the Americans, who were the primary audience, were not as gullible as expected and not all Americans (by any stretch) hate the royal family. The whole world has had a tough time with price increases and difficult living conditions. All they really wanted (not) were two rich, privileged, entitled, untalented and self absorbed people whining about their imprisonment in a castle with no option but to flee into the wilderness in the dead of night and end up in a mansion. Sorry guys, no one is buying it.

By themselves using the money they have made via the commercial arm of Archwell

@skullbabe By themselves using the money they have made via the commercial arm of Archwell. You mean that not for profit, charitable organisation. Christ, I wish the charitable, not for profit organisation I'm a director of would fund me a private jet.

How much more reasonable would it be to recycle those funds into actual err 'charitable' work?

I disagree- it’s a reasonable question. Many people seem to have an objection to any money they make - so the question is what do you want them to do?

The legal case was asking for police protection (which includes access to intelligence and firearms) which he was and is willing to pay for. The risk to him and his family regardless of his current status is because of who he is and should be a real consideration by the Home Office.

No I mean the commercial arm of Archewell which is different to the charity. Hope that helps.

Met Police personal protection isn't available for hire.

You either qualify and get it, or you don't qualify.

The offer to pay isn't relevant, as police personal protection officers aren't made available that way. Yes organisers of large events that need crowd control may defray some of the costs, but that's simply not the same as personal protection.

His legal case is nothing to do with the cost. It is a JR into the workings of RAVEC, and whether it is fit for purpose in making decisions on personal protection.

He's already in a situation where every proposed trip will be assessed (it's not a blanket "none, ever" decision)

Well I don’t agree skullbabe. Nobody on here wants them to die - they just don’t agree with the way they carry on their business both personally and professionally.