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The royal family

Harry and Meghan and the coronation.

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purpledalmation · 06/02/2023 20:14

If King Charles asked people not to boo the couple and did a deal with newspapers and TV to not print pictures of them or comment on their appearance, do you think they would come.

If there was a total news blackout where they were concerned (which I would just love!) so we didn't have to even see them, (apart from a passing glimpse), i think I could bear them coming. Daddy clearly want them there. Fatted calf and all that.

Would this get around the problem of them taking the spotlight away from the actual ceremony?

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EdithWeston · 13/02/2023 21:18

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/02/2023 15:37

I just only heard the other day that Archewell announced this year's WellChild submissions are open

So is there any real active involvement here, or is it merely another bit of PR for the foundation?

Not that there's anything wrong with raising awareness no matter who's doing it, but as with other RF members I appreciate knowing what's down to their own efforts and what's not

Neither

Archewell is the means via which H&M make public announcements

H is a patron. The charity made an announcement (with H on their front page) and H has announced it too.

purpledalmation · 13/02/2023 21:19

Wellchild charity is what they should have been supporting, instead of slagging off their families on both sides of the Atlantic. With any luck they will now stfu and do what they said they would.

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notanotheroneagain · 13/02/2023 21:26

Vitriolinsanity · 13/02/2023 20:50

To be fair @milti HMQ did have the ultimate resting bitch face.

Guess she does.

Harry and Meghan and the coronation.
Arrrrrrragghhh · 13/02/2023 21:58

skullbabe · 13/02/2023 15:10

I’m sure that the children with complex needs appreciate their efforts. I’m not sure why raising awareness is a bad thing just because H&M are involved.

But they themselves have millions and millions of dollars. And they also attend charity events where they will donate to all their other wealthy friends equally worthy causes.
So why not cut out the middle man, do the publicity and just give more of their own considerable wealth to their charity.

BadgerB · 14/02/2023 05:38

notanotheroneagain · Yesterday 21:26
Vitriolinsanity · Yesterday 20:50
To be fair @milti HMQ did have the ultimate resting bitch face.
Guess she does.

Ooo! A bit unfair! That's an "old lady face". I've noticed lately people will say to me, "What's the problem?" or "Why are you cross?". No problem, not cross, just getting old. Perhaps I need to cultivate an inane grin at all times...

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 07:10

Arrrrrrragghhh · 13/02/2023 21:58

But they themselves have millions and millions of dollars. And they also attend charity events where they will donate to all their other wealthy friends equally worthy causes.
So why not cut out the middle man, do the publicity and just give more of their own considerable wealth to their charity.

Of course but to enable sustainable and ongoing funding for any project you need to be able to ensure a regular income. Big endowments are always welcomed but they are not sustainable in the long term.

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 07:34

milti · 13/02/2023 20:40

Arsewell - give us your money and we’ll give a tiny percentage away and keep the rest

This is a genuine criticism of all charities - whether a high enough proportion of its funds generated go to the causes. Responsible charities make it very clear what proportion of contributions is spent on administration and fund-raising - the impact report gave a good accounting of what the projects were and the outcomes - the staff salaries and other admin would be be in an Annual Report. I’m not sure what plans if any there are to publish their Annual Report but would expect that to be best practice.

Ohnonevermind · 14/02/2023 07:42

A poster on here before mentioned a report that royal patronage do not have a financial uplift as a result of that patronage.

At least there are no costs associated with the royal Patronage unless they give their premises a lick of paint when a royal visits

But having read David Beckhams emails, a charity would be expected to pay flights accommodation and security for their non royal patron attending events. I wonder well child have to pay these not insubstantial costs now ?

Explodingatomickittens · 14/02/2023 08:25

There's no way H&M will want a media blackout... They'll want to be centre stage.

Novella4 · 14/02/2023 08:25

There is only one benefit re royal patronage of charities - and it is to the 'royals' . PR and it is an attempt to make them look like they do something

The charities wheeze was dreamt up years ago when criticism was growing - also the walkabout

It's failing as a strategy as more people see through it ( rictus grin at food bank anyone?) and 'royals' and their PR are currently scrambling to find a new 'strategy'.
PR plants and bots mainly

Novella4 · 14/02/2023 08:28

@Ohnonevermind
That where you are wrong re 'no costs' for a royal visit.
The charity and local council must meet all costs of the royal visit

You surely don't think the Windsors pay ?

Novella4 · 14/02/2023 08:33

Actually walkabouts are also failing as there is the the terrible threat of a person standing there holding up a blank piece of paper !
Imagine !

Visible dissent . Actaul their greatest threat

milti · 14/02/2023 09:17

@skullbabe if it’s best practice I won’t hold my breath re the markles

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 10:21

milti · 14/02/2023 09:17

@skullbabe if it’s best practice I won’t hold my breath re the markles

I’m not aware of any foundation or charity that the Markles have set up - although Meghan did plenty of charity work prior to meeting Harry, I don’t think her or her family set up a foundation.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2023 11:22

Archewell is the means via which H&M make public announcements
H is a patron. The charity made an announcement (with H on their front page) and H has announced it too

I know, EdithWeston, but my interest is in their own active involvement and efforts as opposed to those of others

adrianmolesmole · 14/02/2023 13:28

Arrrrrrragghhh · 13/02/2023 21:58

But they themselves have millions and millions of dollars. And they also attend charity events where they will donate to all their other wealthy friends equally worthy causes.
So why not cut out the middle man, do the publicity and just give more of their own considerable wealth to their charity.

But they themselves have millions and millions of dollars. And they also attend charity events where they will donate to all their other wealthy friends equally worthy causes.
So why not cut out the middle man, do the publicity and just give more of their own considerable wealth to their charity.

You could say that about the Royals too.

Harry has donated some of the proceeds from his book to charities - £1.5 million to Sentebale and around 300,000 to WellChild.

adrianmolesmole · 14/02/2023 13:29

argh quote fail!

BadgerB · 14/02/2023 14:46

Novella4 · Today 08:28
That where you are wrong re 'no costs' for a royal visit.
The charity and local council must meet all costs of the royal visit

I think you are wrong there. Unless the charity wants their patron to fly to a distant place, maybe.

wordler · 14/02/2023 15:12

BadgerB · 14/02/2023 14:46

Novella4 · Today 08:28
That where you are wrong re 'no costs' for a royal visit.
The charity and local council must meet all costs of the royal visit

I think you are wrong there. Unless the charity wants their patron to fly to a distant place, maybe.

Local authorities contribute police time and security resources.

The charities don't have to pay anything but they often spend some funds on an event it it includes refreshments etc, flowers for the female royals etc. And any painting and sprucing beforehand - although that benefits the charity afterwards of course.

The local authorities and the charities do not pay the royal patrons' travel and expenses though (this does happen with non royal patrons - especially bigger charities who have A list celebs representing them)

purpledalmation · 14/02/2023 15:29

Harry has donated some of the proceeds from his book to charities - £1.5 million to Sentebale and around 300,000 to WellChild In the grand scheme of things relating to harry and meghans wealth, this is peanuts.

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adrianmolesmole · 14/02/2023 15:43

purpledalmation · 14/02/2023 15:29

Harry has donated some of the proceeds from his book to charities - £1.5 million to Sentebale and around 300,000 to WellChild In the grand scheme of things relating to harry and meghans wealth, this is peanuts.

You could say the same about the royals.

Samcro · 14/02/2023 16:04

BadgerB · 14/02/2023 05:38

notanotheroneagain · Yesterday 21:26
Vitriolinsanity · Yesterday 20:50
To be fair @milti HMQ did have the ultimate resting bitch face.
Guess she does.

Ooo! A bit unfair! That's an "old lady face". I've noticed lately people will say to me, "What's the problem?" or "Why are you cross?". No problem, not cross, just getting old. Perhaps I need to cultivate an inane grin at all times...

that is so true.
my dc is always telling me off about the face I pull, according to him.
its just my face lol

Arrrrrrragghhh · 14/02/2023 16:19

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 07:10

Of course but to enable sustainable and ongoing funding for any project you need to be able to ensure a regular income. Big endowments are always welcomed but they are not sustainable in the long term.

Whats the difference between putting their private income into investments for their charity and using other peoples money?
.As I said ,as prominent people they will be expected to donate to other charities as part of the events circuit. Or have they said publicity they won’t.

BadgerB · 14/02/2023 17:17

Novella4 · Today 08:28
@Ohnonevermind
That where you are wrong re 'no costs' for a royal visit.
The charity and local council must meet all costs of the royal visit
You surely don't think the Windsors pay ?

wordler · Today 15:12
Local authorities contribute police time and security resources.
The charities don't have to pay anything but they often spend some funds on an event it it includes refreshments etc, flowers for the female royals etc. And any painting and sprucing beforehand - although that benefits the charity afterwards of course.
The local authorities and the charities do not pay the royal patrons' travel and expenses though (this does happen with non royal patrons .

Thanks wordler

Ohnonevermind · 14/02/2023 17:24

Thanks for confirming what I thought @wordler

It means that al charities are then equal rather than the ‘pay for play’ model Meghan had wanted where you have to pay for them

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