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Archbishop of Canterbury get Harry to attend Coronation

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AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:18

The Mail on Sunday are claiming that Charles has asked the Archbishop to talk to Harry to get him to attend the Coronation. But William is against this as he fears the Sussex's will detract from the Coronation.

"Harry could be guaranteed a high-profile seating position in the Abbey or an informal assurance that he will be able to keep his titles as an inducement to attend. However, William fears that unless Harry’s visit is tightly scripted, he could steal the limelight by, for example, going on a walkabout in a deprived London borough with Meghan."

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EdithWeston · 30/01/2023 14:21

It's all speculation (I read similar from a different outlet) and not closely sourced.

Harry has painted himself in to a corner, by saying the ball's in their court. They're very clearly not going to play it.

So (to move on to another metaphor) Harry needs to find a ladder to climb down, if he wishes to be there. A plausible intermediary might be one way of achieving that

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:22

Harry might not want to be there. He has said nothing.

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Novella4 · 30/01/2023 14:30

So Charles is unable to pick up the phone to his own son

A son who has been very restrained in the book the 'royals' were all quaking in their boots over

A son who has, if anything , been quite understanding of his father

What a deeply dysfunctional 'king'

EdithWeston · 30/01/2023 14:32

If he doesn't want to be there, then that's fine. They just decline the invitation

I doubt very much indeed that the Sussexes would be planning a walkabout in a deprived London borough - it's self-evident that, given all that they've said, they could be happy with security arrangements. So I have doubts about the authenticity of that view being William's.

Zosime · 30/01/2023 14:33

Why should Harry be there? I can understand why Charles might want all his family to be there for personal reasons, because it's important to him, but the Sussexes are of no relevance to the Coronation cetemony, they don't need to be there, and I'd be totally opposed to any idea of offering them guarantees of anything as an inducement to attend.

Not sure the Abp will want to act as intermediary, either, given how they misrepresented him before and he had to issue a statement correcting them.

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:34

@EdithWeston according to this article William and Charles disagree about whether Harry should be invited at all.

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EdithWeston · 30/01/2023 14:34

Equally, Harry is unable to pick up the phone to his father, or his rother, or just about anyone else in his family. His dysfunction is extensive, if refusal to communicate is the marker

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:36

@Zosime The Archbishop of Canterbury has went on record praising Meghan and Harry. He is widely seen to be sympathetic to the Sussex's.

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EdithWeston · 30/01/2023 14:37

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:34

@EdithWeston according to this article William and Charles disagree about whether Harry should be invited at all.

As I said, I find the comments attributed to William to be so obviously non-sensical, that I take it with a pinch of salt.

Possible involvement of Archbish has been mentioned elsewhere though, so perhaps that's happening. It is his Abbey, after all!

Possible lack of invitation is something the press witter on about at length, but there's been no sniff of that in the slightly better sourced stuff

Everydayitsgettingcloser · 30/01/2023 14:42

As if residents of deprived London boroughs don't have enough to worry about

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:43

Meghan is very popular amongst black people. She would be very welcomed in some London boroughs.

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BethDuttonsTwin · 30/01/2023 14:45

Everydayitsgettingcloser · 30/01/2023 14:42

As if residents of deprived London boroughs don't have enough to worry about

Lol

MrsMaxDeWinter · 30/01/2023 14:53

This would be a great move if true.

Charles is after all the head of the Church of England. He is going to be crowned King based on teachings of the Church about how the King is anointed with oil by God etc. So it would be nice for all the family, who are all members, including Harry who was christened as a baby and Meghan who was baptised before her marriage, to be guided by the Archbishop to show the meaning of Christian forgiveness and reconciliation.

The Archbishop famously said last year that Andrew should be forgiven.

If Andrew can be forgiven, so can Harry and Meghan.

purpledalmation · 30/01/2023 14:54

Novella4 · 30/01/2023 14:30

So Charles is unable to pick up the phone to his own son

A son who has been very restrained in the book the 'royals' were all quaking in their boots over

A son who has, if anything , been quite understanding of his father

What a deeply dysfunctional 'king'

Restrained? I'd love to see him unleashed.
Oversharing. Vindictive. Bullying. Deeply personal information within the family. Spiteful. Self pitying. Whining. Making unfounded and unproven statements. I could continue. He is a disgrace of a son and I have no idea why Charles wants him anywhere in this country

PeekAtYou · 30/01/2023 14:55

Harry's apparently been offered $$$ to be a commentator on US TV for the coronation so might decline on those grounds.

Zosime · 30/01/2023 15:00

Possible involvement of Archbish has been mentioned elsewhere though, so perhaps that's happening. It is his Abbey, after all!

It's the King's abbey. Westminster is a Royal Peculiar, not under the jurisdiction of any bishop or archbishop.

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 15:01

If I was Harry I would take the money. Why go to London to be publicly frozen out by your family and have all the Royalists attack you on social media.

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Novella4 · 30/01/2023 15:01

@purpledalmation

Did you read the same book?

ItsCurtainstothat · 30/01/2023 15:01

Novella4 · 30/01/2023 14:30

So Charles is unable to pick up the phone to his own son

A son who has been very restrained in the book the 'royals' were all quaking in their boots over

A son who has, if anything , been quite understanding of his father

What a deeply dysfunctional 'king'

Have you read the book? It doesn’t sound like you have.

AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 15:02

MrsMaxDeWinter · 30/01/2023 14:53

This would be a great move if true.

Charles is after all the head of the Church of England. He is going to be crowned King based on teachings of the Church about how the King is anointed with oil by God etc. So it would be nice for all the family, who are all members, including Harry who was christened as a baby and Meghan who was baptised before her marriage, to be guided by the Archbishop to show the meaning of Christian forgiveness and reconciliation.

The Archbishop famously said last year that Andrew should be forgiven.

If Andrew can be forgiven, so can Harry and Meghan.

Hell will freeze over before I forgive Andrew. I do not care that failure to forgive is a sin. He has not even acknowledged what he has done never mind repented.

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Novella4 · 30/01/2023 15:03

I have and I agree with the LA times and the New York Times - have you read those articles ?

Zosime · 30/01/2023 15:03

Harry's apparently been offered $$$ to be a commentator on US TV for the coronation so might decline on those grounds.

I'll bet he knows less than nothing about the meaning and significance of the ceremony and ritual, so I doubt they'd be getting their money's worth.

MarshaMelrose · 30/01/2023 15:04

Everydayitsgettingcloser · 30/01/2023 14:42

As if residents of deprived London boroughs don't have enough to worry about

😂😂😂

Novella4 · 30/01/2023 15:05

And what meaning would that be ?

That Mr Windsor is automatically head of the COE regardless of suitablilty ?

EdithWeston · 30/01/2023 15:05

Zosime · 30/01/2023 15:00

Possible involvement of Archbish has been mentioned elsewhere though, so perhaps that's happening. It is his Abbey, after all!

It's the King's abbey. Westminster is a Royal Peculiar, not under the jurisdiction of any bishop or archbishop.

Yes I know that.

Just as I know that on the clerical side it's the Dean's

But I meant the other way around. It's his, in the sense that it's the one he belongs to (not in the sense that he owns or is responsible for it)