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The "Where's Meghan" Question Has Been Definitively Answered ...

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 30/01/2023 11:50

She's been busy!

I hope that those who expressed concern will be happy to know that she has been working with the Archewell team on their just released Impact Report.

Meghan and Harry are polarising figures but there is no doubt that they have galvanising power to get projects, both little and big, off the ground.

Harry, with William and Kate, was a co-founder of the Royal Foundation in 2011. They had a start-up fund of just under 5 million pounds, of which 1.3 million pounds was given away in grants.

10 yrs later, Harry and Meghan set up Archewell, with start up funds of 13 million dollars, and give away three million dollars in grants.

As with both foundations, the reserve is carried over.

The range of their projects is interesting, from working with the Vaccine Alliance to raise private sector contributions to distribute vaccines, endowing academic fellowships, working with partners in resettling refugees from Ukraine and Afghanistan, working with World Central Kitchens, to smaller projects like the Uvalde community playground and park and a really cute project to a small charity that gives free hair braiding to young black girls in Texas.

archewell.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Archewell-Foundation-Impact-Report-2020-2022.pdf

I am so pleased for them, their advisors and staff as this is a dream start for any start up. I have long been sceptical that they may have spread themselves too thinly, so I am glad to see they are now focusing on just three areas, as they find their groove.

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Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 15:38

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 15:24

Pro posters are delightfully warm and affirming until the discussion moves on to, say, Kate, then much of the warmth and affirmation takes a nosedive out the window. Not so cosy then, eh? Maybe there is a certain type of personality that enjoys being mean about people they don't know - there's a lot of it about.....

Ah yes, we've reached the part of the conversation where anything other than fulsome praise for Catherine, the Princess of Wales (as we must call her) is 'sticking the boot in' and entirely equivalent to the endless drubbing received by Meghan. Keep reaching, it's funny really as it's just such a blatant double standard.

SoTedious · 03/02/2023 15:40

Hmm, I don't think Ellen has been accused of being personally racist but as you know I'm not the brightest so I could be wrong!

That's true about Ellen, she did blame other people for the racism in the team of people she hired. And Harry of course has reframed his racism as unconscious bias which wasn't his fault because he didn't realise the word he was using was a slur 😂

Not for or against cancel culture as it seems a pretty loaded term and I don't really know what it means. I guess I think that people should get called out for their behaviour, especially when it involves racism. The suggestion that privileged people responsible for a racist workplace should be allowed to grow is quite offensive to those on the receiving end of the abuse imo.

And for @MrsMaxDeWinter, all racism is bad, including your post the other day about "the people of Africa, Latin America and Asia" not needing to worry about heating because it's hot there.

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 15:47

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 15:38

Ah yes, we've reached the part of the conversation where anything other than fulsome praise for Catherine, the Princess of Wales (as we must call her) is 'sticking the boot in' and entirely equivalent to the endless drubbing received by Meghan. Keep reaching, it's funny really as it's just such a blatant double standard.

Anything less than fulsome praise of anyone Meghan is seen as 'sticking the boot in' and equivalent to the endless criticism and personal insults received by Kate. Keep reaching, it's funny really as it's such a blatant double standard.

See - I get how this works now......

MrsFinkelstein · 03/02/2023 15:49

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/02/2023 14:45

@MrsFinkelstein given that H and M's kids apparently call her "Auntie Ellen" and that they are neighbours and seem to be in and out of each other's houses, how about the crazy notion that they are, beyond who has what status in Hollywood, just friends?

I'm sure they are friends, which is great. It's always good to have friends

The point made originally was that Ellen et al were Hollywood elite, and I just pointed out that they weren't.

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 15:50

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 15:47

Anything less than fulsome praise of anyone Meghan is seen as 'sticking the boot in' and equivalent to the endless criticism and personal insults received by Kate. Keep reaching, it's funny really as it's such a blatant double standard.

See - I get how this works now......

Sure, except that this way round it's untrue. HTH.

GloomyDarkness · 03/02/2023 15:50

Pro posters are delightfully warm and affirming until the discussion moves on to, say, Kate, then much of the warmth and affirmation takes a nosedive out the window. Not so cosy then, eh? Maybe there is a certain type of personality that enjoys being mean about people they don't know - there's a lot of it about.....

Pro and anti sides are as bad as each other - constant pop shots at each other and strange idea if thread gets dominated by like minded people it's been "won" -not just degenerated into a echo chamber everyone else gets fed up with and steers clear of.

RF need to stay popular to keep position of privilege and Meghan and Harry need to make money to fund their security and life style so nether are going way from headlines anytime soon - and both sides are trying to use press for their own aims.

Personally I'm cynical of both camps while also thinking some criticism of both groups are unwarranted and petty or worse and some spot on and I'm also aware others think differently and that's fine and normal.

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 15:52

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 15:50

Sure, except that this way round it's untrue. HTH.

Sure, except that this way round it's true. HTH.

I got this Grin

Roussette · 03/02/2023 15:53

I agree with you @GloomyDarkness

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/02/2023 15:55

And for @MrsMaxDeWinter, all racism is bad, including your post the other day about "the people of Africa, Latin America and Asia" not needing to worry about heating because it's hot there.

This is a comically bad paraphrasing of what I said The poster I responded was ranting that people all over the world are choosing between heating and eating. And I pointed out that actually, that is not true because in Africa, Latin America and Asia, heating is not an issue at all because of the climate but of course there are more pressing problems.

I am aware that the UK education system can produce people with poor knowledge of the world outside the UK, but this is a matter of basic human and social geography. The climate of the Southern hemisphere, combined with the shorter and milder cold months, means that indoor heating is just not the necessity it is in the UK. In my part of Africa, you are more likely to die of heat than cold.

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MrsFinkelstein · 03/02/2023 15:55

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/02/2023 15:27

@PreparationPreparationPrep

Great to see you as always!

Welcome. Today, we are trying to solve The Mystery of Moving Goalposts, thanks to @Aspiringmatriarch for pointing them out.

It's where posters who are normally quick to dismiss the racism Meghan experienced in the UK press are even quicker to accuse her of hanging out with racists. Because racism is bad only if it can be associated with Meghan, not if it is targeted at her.

I have never denied that Meghan was the focus of racist press comments - all of which were utterly deplorable and should and were rightfully called out.

I just see some hypocrisy when members of the RF are criticised for who they have had friendships or relationships with (regardless how tenuous it may be), yet the same can't be said about H&M.

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 15:57

SoTedious · 03/02/2023 15:40

Hmm, I don't think Ellen has been accused of being personally racist but as you know I'm not the brightest so I could be wrong!

That's true about Ellen, she did blame other people for the racism in the team of people she hired. And Harry of course has reframed his racism as unconscious bias which wasn't his fault because he didn't realise the word he was using was a slur 😂

Not for or against cancel culture as it seems a pretty loaded term and I don't really know what it means. I guess I think that people should get called out for their behaviour, especially when it involves racism. The suggestion that privileged people responsible for a racist workplace should be allowed to grow is quite offensive to those on the receiving end of the abuse imo.

And for @MrsMaxDeWinter, all racism is bad, including your post the other day about "the people of Africa, Latin America and Asia" not needing to worry about heating because it's hot there.

That is not what she said at all. She said she relied on other people but takes full responsibility for what happened. As far as being allowed to grow, I think most reasonable people welcome that. I think your nose might be growing as well.

FlyingNorth · 03/02/2023 16:02

The poster I responded was ranting that people all over the world are choosing between heating and eating. And I pointed out that actually, that is not true because in Africa, Latin America and Asia, heating is not an issue at all because of the climate but of course there are more pressing problems.

Leaving aside the fact that there are cold places in Africa and Latin America, Asia is a huge landmass and yes, it gets pretty damned cold in northern India (just for example) during the winter. But I'm sure you were just generalising, and not at all in a racist way.

Roussette · 03/02/2023 16:02

MrsFinkelstein · 03/02/2023 15:55

I have never denied that Meghan was the focus of racist press comments - all of which were utterly deplorable and should and were rightfully called out.

I just see some hypocrisy when members of the RF are criticised for who they have had friendships or relationships with (regardless how tenuous it may be), yet the same can't be said about H&M.

I think Epstein, Ball, Saville (who duped most of us admittedly, but why cosy up to him so bloody much?), and Mountbatten are comparable to Ellen Degeneres and Oprah Winfrey, both of whom (like it or not) command a huge amount of respect.

Roussette · 03/02/2023 16:03

I don't think. Pah, I want to be able to correct.

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 16:04

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 15:52

Sure, except that this way round it's true. HTH.

I got this Grin

Sorry, didn't realise I was interacting with a ten year old.

WisteriaLodge · 03/02/2023 16:05

It’s incredible… all they had was a dream, the drive, tens of millions of pounds, the allure of being associated with royalty and a huge publicity team. It really gives you hope.

I'm dying 😆

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 16:06

So someone points out that all the mutual cosiness about not being mean girls doesn't seem to apply to comments about other women and all of a sudden I'm 10? Okeydoke.

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/02/2023 16:10

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 16:06

So someone points out that all the mutual cosiness about not being mean girls doesn't seem to apply to comments about other women and all of a sudden I'm 10? Okeydoke.

When you're using the childhood staple "I know you are, but what am I?" as your chosen way to irritate, you might get a reaction. Which I'm sure you wanted. The provocation and the response, hardly mean girl stuff.

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 16:11

Not part of your gang Sad

Samcro · 03/02/2023 16:11

I must be missing the threads with endless criticism of Kate. I have seem one where people are discussing her early years thing(I have no idea if what she is doing is good or bad as my kids are adults) surely discussing that or PW earthshot project is ok.
I have not seen 100's of threads bashing her.

feellikeanalien · 03/02/2023 16:13

GloomyDarkness · 03/02/2023 15:50

Pro posters are delightfully warm and affirming until the discussion moves on to, say, Kate, then much of the warmth and affirmation takes a nosedive out the window. Not so cosy then, eh? Maybe there is a certain type of personality that enjoys being mean about people they don't know - there's a lot of it about.....

Pro and anti sides are as bad as each other - constant pop shots at each other and strange idea if thread gets dominated by like minded people it's been "won" -not just degenerated into a echo chamber everyone else gets fed up with and steers clear of.

RF need to stay popular to keep position of privilege and Meghan and Harry need to make money to fund their security and life style so nether are going way from headlines anytime soon - and both sides are trying to use press for their own aims.

Personally I'm cynical of both camps while also thinking some criticism of both groups are unwarranted and petty or worse and some spot on and I'm also aware others think differently and that's fine and normal.

Excellent post. Sums up my feelings entirely.

SoTedious · 03/02/2023 16:13

I think your nose might be growing as well.

Do you think I have lied about something? What?

Unbelievable @MrsMaxDeWinter that you are doubling down 🤯

Lumping together people from three different continents and pronouncing on their worries, showing staggering ignorance while going on about others' "poor knowledge of the world". Do you really not know that not all people in those three huge areas experience the same climate? Or that some parts of those areas get very cold? Or that a lot of Asia is not even in the southern hemisphere?
Mind boggling.

Coxspurplepippin · 03/02/2023 16:15

Samcro there's been a lot of really pissy personal comments about her looks, her children, her relationship with her husband. Quite nasty for someone who appears to have done bugger all to justify it. No issues with critique of activities as long as they're truly justified and not just having a dig (which tbh many of them seem to be - if it's anything to do with Kate it must be worthless) but the personal bile, well, no more acceptable than vileness about Meghan, surely?

Roussette · 03/02/2023 16:18

Samcro · 03/02/2023 16:11

I must be missing the threads with endless criticism of Kate. I have seem one where people are discussing her early years thing(I have no idea if what she is doing is good or bad as my kids are adults) surely discussing that or PW earthshot project is ok.
I have not seen 100's of threads bashing her.

There aren't.

There are some very level headed interesting posts on there and there have been posters who are proficient in the field that Kate is talking about. And I've learnt from these posts. Yes, there are a couple of snarky comments and put downs about Kate, but not from names I recognise.

However, it has now diverted to Meghan bashing and the last few pages are what a useless z rate cable actress Meghan was, how she barely scraped a living, how she's done nothing of merit blah blah same old same old.

onlylarkin · 03/02/2023 16:20

Samcro · 03/02/2023 14:15

can I join. if feel left out

Me too. Though I have been mostly lurking because my life is akin to a shit show right now.

Also, wanted to say (as a joke), we will take Harry in the US, but you can't have Ryan Reynolds in exchange. The fact that he is Canadian is of no matter to us. 😁

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