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The "Where's Meghan" Question Has Been Definitively Answered ...

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 30/01/2023 11:50

She's been busy!

I hope that those who expressed concern will be happy to know that she has been working with the Archewell team on their just released Impact Report.

Meghan and Harry are polarising figures but there is no doubt that they have galvanising power to get projects, both little and big, off the ground.

Harry, with William and Kate, was a co-founder of the Royal Foundation in 2011. They had a start-up fund of just under 5 million pounds, of which 1.3 million pounds was given away in grants.

10 yrs later, Harry and Meghan set up Archewell, with start up funds of 13 million dollars, and give away three million dollars in grants.

As with both foundations, the reserve is carried over.

The range of their projects is interesting, from working with the Vaccine Alliance to raise private sector contributions to distribute vaccines, endowing academic fellowships, working with partners in resettling refugees from Ukraine and Afghanistan, working with World Central Kitchens, to smaller projects like the Uvalde community playground and park and a really cute project to a small charity that gives free hair braiding to young black girls in Texas.

archewell.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Archewell-Foundation-Impact-Report-2020-2022.pdf

I am so pleased for them, their advisors and staff as this is a dream start for any start up. I have long been sceptical that they may have spread themselves too thinly, so I am glad to see they are now focusing on just three areas, as they find their groove.

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ExistenceOptional · 14/02/2023 11:40

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 11:27

I would put those comments in the racist spectrum. The proof will be in the pudding as to what anti racism work he is taking on and from the way he speaks, it looks like he’s doing the work. It’s not easy work and there will be missteps but the important thing is that he keeps on working on it and trying.

Everyone is brought up racist to varying degrees. I think the key is acknowledging your racism, working to change it, and becoming anti racist.
I do not think Harry deserved the award. But I think Harry is doing well to acknowledge and challenge his racism and be anti racist. Much better than William's we are very much not a racist family. You are mate.

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 11:41

smilesy · 14/02/2023 11:25

Yea I am aware of this, but that was not what Harry was addressing in his comments. He was talking about what happened in the conversation about the baby. He was not addressing racism in general in the Royal Family and as pp said, he then has the front to pick up an award

If the comment about the baby’s skin colour were a lie would that negate the RF’s discriminatory systems and practices?

Is their work with Grenfell victims, BLM and the NAACP not worthy of recognition by whoever chooses to recognise them for it?

smilesy · 14/02/2023 11:44

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 11:41

If the comment about the baby’s skin colour were a lie would that negate the RF’s discriminatory systems and practices?

Is their work with Grenfell victims, BLM and the NAACP not worthy of recognition by whoever chooses to recognise them for it?

Didn’t the award specifically mention them tackling racism in the Royal Family though? It wasn’t given In recognition of their other achievements afaik. Happy to be corrected 🤷‍♀️

User45378754 · 14/02/2023 14:24

ExistenceOptional · 14/02/2023 11:40

Everyone is brought up racist to varying degrees. I think the key is acknowledging your racism, working to change it, and becoming anti racist.
I do not think Harry deserved the award. But I think Harry is doing well to acknowledge and challenge his racism and be anti racist. Much better than William's we are very much not a racist family. You are mate.

But I think Harry is doing well to acknowledge and challenge his racism and be anti racist.

How and when?

He has never once acknowledged or apologised publicly for those videos of him racially abusing his colleagues in the most offensive terms - pki and rghead.

WORSE he declares himself cleansed by his assertion that he went to Berlin and spoke with the Chief Rabbi after the Nazi uniform incident …… when this rehabilitation’ was undertaken BEFORE he videoed himself racially abusing his colleagues…..but he’s delusional and puffed up enough to continue to this day to pontificate.

Couldn’t make it up.

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 14:32

Why would you accept an award for something fighting against something you don't think exists?

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 14:38

Also if he doesn't think his family are racist wasn't it an appalling thing to do to keep quiet while they are accused of racism from all quarters because of things you and your wife implied?

If that wasn't what they meant they should have said so immediately when the controversy raged against his family.

They didn't. They implied something, let his own family be accused and attacked for the thing they've implied, accepted an award for fighting against the thing they implied, and then said the thing they implied doesn't exist and they didn't actually say it did.

It's appalling behaviour and it's as if they think we can't see it.
Bizarre.

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 14:40

Also... didn't Beyonce also congratulate them on fighting racism in the institution.
You know when the cameras were there when her email arrived??

Beyonce must feel a bit duped right now.

purpledalmation · 14/02/2023 15:36

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 10:25

The effect is still the same - accidentally running me over with a car vs mowing me down on purpose has exactly the same effect. Of course accidents can be mitigated but using unconscious bias to mean not as bad as is problematic.

Dont be ridiculous. If i punched you in the face and called you a racist name, is that the same as my saying mixed race children seem to take the best from both heritages? The second is some kind of bias I accept because I shouldn't even be noting this, but equally I (as a white person) would be accused of racism if I say I don't notice the colour of a persons skin within minutes of meeting them, although I note they are dark as I would note they had blonde, pink or ginger hair. presumably all racism according to you. And your car analogy is totally senseless. How can an accidental injury caused by a car be equated to a racist incident.

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 15:38

purpledalmation · 14/02/2023 15:36

Dont be ridiculous. If i punched you in the face and called you a racist name, is that the same as my saying mixed race children seem to take the best from both heritages? The second is some kind of bias I accept because I shouldn't even be noting this, but equally I (as a white person) would be accused of racism if I say I don't notice the colour of a persons skin within minutes of meeting them, although I note they are dark as I would note they had blonde, pink or ginger hair. presumably all racism according to you. And your car analogy is totally senseless. How can an accidental injury caused by a car be equated to a racist incident.

Ok.

notanotheroneagain · 14/02/2023 16:14

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 15:38

Ok.

Oh my days! Profuse apologies to you.

This is what is known as 'fragility'. Goodness me, the pushback to anti racism is real. This is why Harry 'toned things down' to 'unconscious bias'. Anyone who actually in interested in being anti racist, grow their knowledge, please do watch this.
Don't glaze over or shut down, please watch it throughout.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 14/02/2023 16:40

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 14:38

Also if he doesn't think his family are racist wasn't it an appalling thing to do to keep quiet while they are accused of racism from all quarters because of things you and your wife implied?

If that wasn't what they meant they should have said so immediately when the controversy raged against his family.

They didn't. They implied something, let his own family be accused and attacked for the thing they've implied, accepted an award for fighting against the thing they implied, and then said the thing they implied doesn't exist and they didn't actually say it did.

It's appalling behaviour and it's as if they think we can't see it.
Bizarre.

Ah , it’s not what they actually said, it’s what the papers said they said innit? Only they forgot they were filmed actually saying it .

SoTedious · 14/02/2023 17:02

I think Harry was forced to apologise publicly for both the nazi uniform and the racist remarks at the time but now, as well as slithering away from racism towards unconscious bias, blaming his brother for the uniform and his upbringing for the racism, he also claims he didn't know that those words were racist slurs. What a guy. I really cannot fathom what Meghan makes of all that. 🤯

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 17:06

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 14/02/2023 16:40

Ah , it’s not what they actually said, it’s what the papers said they said innit? Only they forgot they were filmed actually saying it .

😂like when Harry said he wasn't Willy's best man...errr...we saw you on the telly...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2023 17:24

Didn’t the award specifically mention them tackling racism in the Royal Family though? It wasn’t given In recognition of their other achievements afaik

I'm pretty sure the actual citation mentioned the usual, more generic "fighting injustice", "working for change" and so on, but it was Kerry Kennedy who revealed that a major driver in awarding them the Ripple of Hope thing was their challenge to the RF:

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-receiving-award-for-heroic-stand-structural-racism-monarchy-kerry-kennedy/

skullbabe · 14/02/2023 17:26

SoTedious · 14/02/2023 17:02

I think Harry was forced to apologise publicly for both the nazi uniform and the racist remarks at the time but now, as well as slithering away from racism towards unconscious bias, blaming his brother for the uniform and his upbringing for the racism, he also claims he didn't know that those words were racist slurs. What a guy. I really cannot fathom what Meghan makes of all that. 🤯

Are you suggesting that the people responsible for discriminatory practices in the Royal Family would not hold discriminatory ideas themselves?

SoTedious · 14/02/2023 17:39

Are you suggesting that the people responsible for discriminatory practices in the Royal Family would not hold discriminatory ideas themselves?

No, I'm suggesting that Harry does not take responsibility for his own racist remarks and behaviour. The idea that a grown man would not know that these words were racist slurs is laughable. As is the idea that he could not figure out for himself that partying while dressed as a Nazi is offensive. As is the idea that this is anything other than racism. I find his posturing as a champion of equality quite sickening tbh.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2023 17:41

I think Harry was forced to apologise publicly for both the nazi uniform and the racist remarks at the time ...

Afraid not; or at least, whether or not anyone tried to "force" him, it certainly didn't happen and instead a spokesperson was wheeled out with some mealy-mouthed statement about "regret"

But then as I said upthread, a proper apology would involve acceptance of responsibility, and it just doesn't seem to be there - and not just over his racism

SoTedious · 14/02/2023 17:50

Oh you're right - Clarence House issued apologies 🤦‍♀️
Unbelievable really.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 14/02/2023 17:51

SoTedious · 14/02/2023 17:39

Are you suggesting that the people responsible for discriminatory practices in the Royal Family would not hold discriminatory ideas themselves?

No, I'm suggesting that Harry does not take responsibility for his own racist remarks and behaviour. The idea that a grown man would not know that these words were racist slurs is laughable. As is the idea that he could not figure out for himself that partying while dressed as a Nazi is offensive. As is the idea that this is anything other than racism. I find his posturing as a champion of equality quite sickening tbh.

Along with ‘my husband is a feminist’. Is he my arse.

debbrianna · 14/02/2023 18:07

BeatricePortinari · 14/02/2023 14:40

Also... didn't Beyonce also congratulate them on fighting racism in the institution.
You know when the cameras were there when her email arrived??

Beyonce must feel a bit duped right now.

This type of comment is annoying when no context is given. Did you understand what Beyonce meant by generational courses? By Meghan's mere existence in the royal family she did precisely that. There is no duping of anything.

User45378754 · 14/02/2023 18:12

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2023 17:41

I think Harry was forced to apologise publicly for both the nazi uniform and the racist remarks at the time ...

Afraid not; or at least, whether or not anyone tried to "force" him, it certainly didn't happen and instead a spokesperson was wheeled out with some mealy-mouthed statement about "regret"

But then as I said upthread, a proper apology would involve acceptance of responsibility, and it just doesn't seem to be there - and not just over his racism

This is exactly what happened.

Someone else apologised for him for the Nazi stuff.

But worse - he went on to do it AGAIN afterwards ….. and then ignores these p and rh incidents and only ever refers to the Nazi stuff and tells lies that he was rehabilitated after!!

We all saw you Hazza - on your own video !!

purpledalmation · 15/02/2023 10:24

@User45378754 Yes, and then blamed William and kate for encouraging him to wear it.

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