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25page doc debunking bullying lies

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notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 13:27

Ok, so tell me, why is the media who are always so forensic about H&M are not investigating and following up on what was on that report where H&M submitted that there was no bullying?

Why didn't the 'palace source' leak this document?

They usually give us a blow by blow account on anything negative about the couple.

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IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 15:35

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:32

What evidence is there for the existence of this 'report'?

This one, apparently

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11611717/Harry-Meghans-25-page-rebuttal-bullying-claims-Prince-rails-against-royal-staff-lies.html

25 pages seems very long for 'I categorically deny that I have ever bullied x,y and z and this comes down to a difference to expectations and outlook.' 25 pages implies there was rather a lot of accusations.

So it's basically just a rumour?

If she wanted to deny the allegations surely a better way would have been to issue a categorical denial when the allegations were first made nearly two years ago? Something she never did?

Or sue The Sunday Times for libel? They've taken legal action over much more trivial stuff after all.

Maybe the 'lies' aren't lies?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:38

If she wanted to deny the allegations surely a better way would have been to issue a categorical denial when the allegations were first made nearly two years ago? Something she never did?

You'd have thought so. Clear the air, set the record straight, put it all behind them and start again.

Maybe the 'lies' aren't lies?

Couldn't possibly comment.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 15:39

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 15:31

This thread is insane!

OP, you're sounding just like Harry - or "H" as you seem to prefer to call him.
Why don't you go and have a lie down. Or live your life without worrying what a couple of multi-millionaires across the world are doing.

Oh please !

Namechanger/Newposter/whoeveryouare

You are here commenting on people you don't know either. What's your deal then. Because I've seen you on other thread, and actually, you seem to post more than me and other regulars.

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BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 15:42

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:35

OP, you're sounding just like Harry - or "H" as you seem to prefer to call him.
Why don't you go and have a lie down. Or live your life without worrying what a couple of multi-millionaires across the world are doing

OP sounds two stops past Dagenham.

Yep! Grin

JonahCL9 · 27/01/2023 15:42

You're obsessed with the idea of name-changers OP - why?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:43

He seems to want his family to reconcile, and has held back a lot

Because publicly trashing them is the way to go about that, isn't it? for a self-proclaimed 'strategic thinker' that seems a pretty short sighted way of going about it. Did he skip the 'Strategy and Tactics' module at Sandhurst?

Blossomtoes · 27/01/2023 15:51

Mumsnut · 27/01/2023 14:56

Why didn't H & M publish it?

Oh, good point.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:53

You are here commenting on people you don't know either. What's your deal then. Because I've seen you on other thread, and actually, you seem to post more than me and other regulars

Looks like you have a stalker, @BlackFriday 😆(not that I'm implying stalkers are funny, but this poster is sounding a bit - teenage).

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 15:55

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 15:35

So it's basically just a rumour?

If she wanted to deny the allegations surely a better way would have been to issue a categorical denial when the allegations were first made nearly two years ago? Something she never did?

Or sue The Sunday Times for libel? They've taken legal action over much more trivial stuff after all.

Maybe the 'lies' aren't lies?

Obviously, I'm not going to click on a Fail link.

Are you talking about MM?
Did you miss the part that she was not allowed to correct stories while with the RF?
Did you also miss her actual lawyer emphatically denying she bullied anyone?

And what is this 'MM always sues nonsense'?
She only had one case- Cleary because it was win-able. H also only fought the cases he knew he could win, like phone hacking.

He also goes on to say he has proper evidence and will see some of the editors go to jail.

Now the report doesn't exist?
Oh please, let he 'palace source' say that, I'm sure H would publish it in a heartbeat.

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Blossomtoes · 27/01/2023 15:58

I'm sure H would publish it in a heartbeat.

Why doesn’t he then? He’s not going to get sued. Let’s see it.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 16:00

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:53

You are here commenting on people you don't know either. What's your deal then. Because I've seen you on other thread, and actually, you seem to post more than me and other regulars

Looks like you have a stalker, @BlackFriday 😆(not that I'm implying stalkers are funny, but this poster is sounding a bit - teenage).

No stalker about it.

Just saw this brand new name on these Royal boards (kind of like yours actually), just crawl out of the woodworks lately. Lots of them out of the blue lately.

Don't even know why I'm directly engaging actually, come to think of it.

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IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 16:01

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 15:55

Obviously, I'm not going to click on a Fail link.

Are you talking about MM?
Did you miss the part that she was not allowed to correct stories while with the RF?
Did you also miss her actual lawyer emphatically denying she bullied anyone?

And what is this 'MM always sues nonsense'?
She only had one case- Cleary because it was win-able. H also only fought the cases he knew he could win, like phone hacking.

He also goes on to say he has proper evidence and will see some of the editors go to jail.

Now the report doesn't exist?
Oh please, let he 'palace source' say that, I'm sure H would publish it in a heartbeat.

Her lawyer quibbled over the definition of 'bullying' but never denied the allegations. A classic legal trick, which worked very well on you.

Valentine Low says that The Sunday Times sent Meghan's lawyers a copy of the article a week in advance of publication so that they could inform them of any objections. They did not do so. Nor has any legal action been taken since.

If I was running a brand all about 'compassion in action' I would certainly sue over such serious allegations. Yet the person still holding a grudge over who made who cry over a toddler's tights has nothing to say about it?

As for the 'report' I haven't got a clue if it exists or not, and neither do you.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 16:03

Obviously, I'm not going to click on a Fail link

Telegraph - is is that too right wing?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/07/duke-duchess-ofsussexfiled-25-page-report-refuting-meghan-bullying/

Guardian more acceptable?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/30/palace-not-publish-review-bullying-claims-meghan

Indy?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/meghan-markle-bullying-inquiry-royals-b2112514.html

Reuters?

www.reuters.com/world/lessons-learned-no-details-royal-review-meghan-bullying-claims-2022-06-29/

He also goes on to say he has proper evidence and will see some of the editors go to jail

Harry's as barking as you are. Newsflash - the royals can't just chuck uppity journalists into prison any more.

Serenster · 27/01/2023 16:05

Never heard of H treating staff like shit

You obviously missed the bits in Spare when Harry himself tells us of deliberately assaulting his protection officers, and the times he saw his and Meghan’s staff stretched across their desks, crying, because their bosses’ expectations were too much.

There is no where that it seems William actually saw her bullying anyone

It has been reported that after Meghan publicly belittled one her staff members William went to reassure the employee that she was doing a great job.

As for why the 25 page report has not come out, a reasonable guess would be that the Palace are mindful of the privacy and dignity of their currently and former staff members and so are g it confidential as it legally is. Also, given the Sussexes’ propensity for not telling the truth or anything close to it, it’s probably a pretty slanderous statement, if it exists, hence why it’s safest for it and the bullying investigation report to be kept confidential.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 16:05

Just saw this brand new name on these Royal boards (kind of like yours actually), just crawl out of the woodworks lately. Lots of them out of the blue lately

Do tell, who do I apply to for permission to post? do I have to be security checked and go through a probation before I get that privilege?

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 16:25

Is name-changing not allowed on MN then? Or is that a rule @notanotheroneagain has just invented as they haven't received the response on this thread they were hoping for?
For the record, I've been on MN for over 15 years. Does that qualify me to post?

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/01/2023 16:26

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 16:03

Obviously, I'm not going to click on a Fail link

Telegraph - is is that too right wing?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/07/duke-duchess-ofsussexfiled-25-page-report-refuting-meghan-bullying/

Guardian more acceptable?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/30/palace-not-publish-review-bullying-claims-meghan

Indy?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/meghan-markle-bullying-inquiry-royals-b2112514.html

Reuters?

www.reuters.com/world/lessons-learned-no-details-royal-review-meghan-bullying-claims-2022-06-29/

He also goes on to say he has proper evidence and will see some of the editors go to jail

Harry's as barking as you are. Newsflash - the royals can't just chuck uppity journalists into prison any more.

Policies and procedures have been reviewed and lessons learned, so why do you think there is no truth to the allegations op?

And do you have actual proof that the Rf leak to the press?

DesertRose64 · 27/01/2023 16:31

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 14:54

PS - poolboy? I know there's a pool at Buck H but I don't think it stretches to staffing it with poolboys. No idea what you're on about there

FFS, I've seen people assigned to look after pools/ivy growing on the building/rugby,hockey, football field and all sorts. That is just in schools and stately homes,. At the palace, you can bet your bottom dollar, there is someone looking after the pool especially.

Anyway, that is not the point of the thread and you are just trying to divert.

I doubt you even know what the point of your thread is.

And given you don’t seem to be understanding much of what’s being said perhaps you need a lie down so you can get out of bed on the right side this time.

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 16:32

(If it's OK to post) I'm astounded that Meghan honestly thought she should be allowed to "correct" any reports about her she didn't like. The RF have never done that, except in extreme cases. Can you imagine how often they'd be doing it? She really thought there should be a statement from BP/KP saying, "We should like to set the record straight that the DoS did NOT make the DoC cry, it was the other way round and SHE started it."

LavenderHillMob · 27/01/2023 16:38

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/01/2023 15:32

What evidence is there for the existence of this 'report'?

This one, apparently

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11611717/Harry-Meghans-25-page-rebuttal-bullying-claims-Prince-rails-against-royal-staff-lies.html

25 pages seems very long for 'I categorically deny that I have ever bullied x,y and z and this comes down to a difference to expectations and outlook.' 25 pages implies there was rather a lot of accusations.

And a lot of staff.

A report about someone bullying a lot of staff also shows you have a lot of staff.

Ohnonevermind · 27/01/2023 16:44

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain

perhaps she was talking about herself in the report 🤣

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 16:47

Serenster · 27/01/2023 16:05

Never heard of H treating staff like shit

You obviously missed the bits in Spare when Harry himself tells us of deliberately assaulting his protection officers, and the times he saw his and Meghan’s staff stretched across their desks, crying, because their bosses’ expectations were too much.

There is no where that it seems William actually saw her bullying anyone

It has been reported that after Meghan publicly belittled one her staff members William went to reassure the employee that she was doing a great job.

As for why the 25 page report has not come out, a reasonable guess would be that the Palace are mindful of the privacy and dignity of their currently and former staff members and so are g it confidential as it legally is. Also, given the Sussexes’ propensity for not telling the truth or anything close to it, it’s probably a pretty slanderous statement, if it exists, hence why it’s safest for it and the bullying investigation report to be kept confidential.

Yes, I did miss those parts, especially as he confessed that he was an absolute a**e while under his family. Till he knew better.

The staff were crying because they were overworked and underpaid. Still under the RF.

Did W go reassure his staff member in Bower's book of lies ?

As for your reasoning, of the report not being published, nothing makes sense here. The names could have been covered up for their 'privacy and dignity' as you put it. Just as they deducted sections in MM letter. So my guess is that no part of the report could be twisted without questions.

Also, the Sussexes have not lied about anything. The palace has though. Very convenient to claim H&M have lied , so the public spend time trying to prove they did not lie...........a bit like what Toni Morrison said about how black people are being portrayed and have to spend all their time explaining their existence. I always feel MM has to explain her existence.

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IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 16:53

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 16:32

(If it's OK to post) I'm astounded that Meghan honestly thought she should be allowed to "correct" any reports about her she didn't like. The RF have never done that, except in extreme cases. Can you imagine how often they'd be doing it? She really thought there should be a statement from BP/KP saying, "We should like to set the record straight that the DoS did NOT make the DoC cry, it was the other way round and SHE started it."

That's why it always makes me laugh when people talk about Meghan going into politics.

A person still holding a grudge about The Great Bridesmaid's Dress Incident almost 5 years later wouldn't survive a single day in the brutal world of American politics.

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 16:55

Speaking of cover ups, OP, why have you never revealed, despite my repeated requests, the details of your allegations the the RF were engaged in a sinister plot relating to the death of the Queen Mother? If you know that sort of inside information, why are you asking random mumsnetters to explain why the bullying report hasn't been released? Surely you have all to inside intel?

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 16:57

"Also, the Sussexes have not lied about anything."

You WHAT, now? 😂😂