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25page doc debunking bullying lies

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notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 13:27

Ok, so tell me, why is the media who are always so forensic about H&M are not investigating and following up on what was on that report where H&M submitted that there was no bullying?

Why didn't the 'palace source' leak this document?

They usually give us a blow by blow account on anything negative about the couple.

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notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 16:59

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 16:01

Her lawyer quibbled over the definition of 'bullying' but never denied the allegations. A classic legal trick, which worked very well on you.

Valentine Low says that The Sunday Times sent Meghan's lawyers a copy of the article a week in advance of publication so that they could inform them of any objections. They did not do so. Nor has any legal action been taken since.

If I was running a brand all about 'compassion in action' I would certainly sue over such serious allegations. Yet the person still holding a grudge over who made who cry over a toddler's tights has nothing to say about it?

As for the 'report' I haven't got a clue if it exists or not, and neither do you.

What?
Her lawyer absolutely refutes the bullying allegations. We saw this on the BBC programme.

As for the person holding the grudge over who made who cry not saying anything ? Who is that ? H&M straightened out that MM did not make KM cry. KM let the story go on about MM making her cry.

If the report does not exist, why is the 'palace source' not disputing it?

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Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 16:59

Anyway, from recent interviews with Valentine Lowe and Petronella Wyatt, I am getting the impression that Harry was an employment tribunal waiting to happen, and that it wasn't all Meghan. Perhaps the RF are protecting a beloved son from the embarrassment of publicly being named and shamed as a really shit boss.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:04

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 16:32

(If it's OK to post) I'm astounded that Meghan honestly thought she should be allowed to "correct" any reports about her she didn't like. The RF have never done that, except in extreme cases. Can you imagine how often they'd be doing it? She really thought there should be a statement from BP/KP saying, "We should like to set the record straight that the DoS did NOT make the DoC cry, it was the other way round and SHE started it."

What?

Hair extensions and Botox are 'extreme cases' now?

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IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 17:07

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 16:59

What?
Her lawyer absolutely refutes the bullying allegations. We saw this on the BBC programme.

As for the person holding the grudge over who made who cry not saying anything ? Who is that ? H&M straightened out that MM did not make KM cry. KM let the story go on about MM making her cry.

If the report does not exist, why is the 'palace source' not disputing it?

Her lawyer absolutely did not refute the bullying allegations. Go back and read what she said. She skirts around the issue, with very carefully worded statements designed to give the impression that she's making a denial, while not actually doing so. It's a classic legal trick which you fell for. There's even a name for it. A non denial denial.

I couldn't care less about who made who cry over a toddler's tights 5 years ago. My point is that someone who is still holding a grudge about something so trivial would surely issue a strongly worded, categorical denial of vastly much more damaging allegations, had those allegations been false.

In fact, the allegations have not been denied and no legal action has been taken against The Sunday Times for the obvious reason that the allegations are true.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:11

P Wyatt was on GMB just the other day telling us that Charles and Camilla did not have an affair when he got married, when everyone is aware that he was getting a BJ from her the day before the wedding and he was busy making jewellery for her while on his way to honeymoon with Diana.

And no, Diana did not have affairs before Charles. She did after it was clear her husband was not interested in her.

And as for another poster's claim, how come MM was the one with bullying allegations if H was the one who was in the wrong?

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BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 17:13

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:04

What?

Hair extensions and Botox are 'extreme cases' now?

The rebuttal of the Botox/hair extensions stories was because the companies concerned were implying that Kate used their products. This was untrue and broke all sorts of rules so was publicly disputed and the ads removed.

karamazing · 27/01/2023 17:14

Those of us who have encountered bullies can sniff a bully through their mannerisms, gestures and choice of language even through layers of expert PR and self-adulation.
Based entirely on stuff they have put out themselves, Meghan is a seasoned one and Harry is an occasional one who makes a good sidekick for her. The very opposite of the kind, loving and charitable image they are keen to project.

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 17:15

Megan Kelly's interview with Valentine Low 2 days ago

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:18

How on earth would The Times be sued, when they are reporting what has been leaked to them?

Unlike the letter, they are just printing or publishing what was leaked to them. eg, if Harry was recorded or someone printed out a letter he sent, (all his own property) he could have a case.

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Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 17:18

I'm sure it's not beyond the realms of your (admittedly questionable) intelligence, that perhaps both Meghan and Harry were bullying staff.

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 17:20

They can sue if what has been leaked to the Times is defamatory, and the Times has repeated the defamation. Do you understand the law?

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 17:25

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:18

How on earth would The Times be sued, when they are reporting what has been leaked to them?

Unlike the letter, they are just printing or publishing what was leaked to them. eg, if Harry was recorded or someone printed out a letter he sent, (all his own property) he could have a case.

What?

So you can publish all sorts of lies about public figure and not face legal action, just because it's been 'leaked'? Are you having a laugh?

Valentine Low is a respected journalist and he has stood by his story and his sources every step of the way.

Ohnonevermind · 27/01/2023 17:27

They can’t publish the 25 page rebuttal document as Meghan would probably claim copyright again 😀

They’re clearly impossible to work for.

i’m guessing there wasn’t enough posts about the twosome so this poster has started up again to try to drum up some interest 🤣

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BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 17:29

Can all these people really be wrong? There certainly seems to be a pattern emerging.
Do we have dozens of people lining up to accuse Kate of bullying behaviour?
Why not?

Devakai · 27/01/2023 17:31

I think Harry has been scapegoated his whole life and now is the scapegoat of the public.

karamazing · 27/01/2023 17:32

Kate comes across as principled, fair and widely respected as an employer. She may be quite frosty and regimented but I bet her boundaries are fantastic which would really annoy a narcissist looking to topple her from first spot.

Serenster · 27/01/2023 17:48

Her lawyer absolutely refutes the bullying allegations. We saw this on the BBC programme.

Her lawyer (same one) also absolutely refuted that Meghan and Harry had anything to do with Finding Freedom. She called it a fantasy. That turned out well too. 🤣

(and as others have pointed out, they decried the allegations at the time but did not deny them).

Ohnonevermind · 27/01/2023 17:49

@notanotheroneagain

Meghan sued for copyright for her letter to her father , she would most likely sue if if her rebuttal was published as it would be her ‘intellectual property’

Farmageddon · 27/01/2023 17:50

notanotheroneagain
Yes, I did miss those parts, especially as he confessed that he was an absolute ae while under his family. Till he knew better.

What the hell is this supposed to mean? That it's somehow his family's fault that he behaved badly?
The man is nearly 40 years of age, when exactly is he going to take any responsibility for his own actions.
So he now 'knows better' and what - absolves himself of all his previous shitty actions? How nice for him.
What about his father and brother, are they also allowed to have this privilege? Not likely since he seems happy to bring up slights from decades ago as ammunition against them.

superdupernova · 27/01/2023 17:54

Devakai · 27/01/2023 17:31

I think Harry has been scapegoated his whole life and now is the scapegoat of the public.

No he wasn't. He was the charming naughty one that everyone liked. Then he turned into a whinger.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:54

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 17:25

What?

So you can publish all sorts of lies about public figure and not face legal action, just because it's been 'leaked'? Are you having a laugh?

Valentine Low is a respected journalist and he has stood by his story and his sources every step of the way.

Don't know about 'respected journalist', but it does seem he does trusts his source. Who seems to be Jason K. Don't follow VL, but have not yet come across him naming or even seeming to have directly spoken to the 'victims'.

Between an employee reporting about a 'split into two camps at KP' , an employee fired for trading in, and MM lawyer denied the allegations. I still have not found the definite proof that MM is a bully. That is without looking at her past where she was described as a sweetheart for over a decade.

To top it, no one has disputed what is said in the documentary and book - not even the palace source. H&M and friends all came out bold with their faces and chest saying these things.

Loads and loads of clout chasers out there, surely H&M will not sue bottom feeders like Lowe, Bower, Lady C etc.

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Serenster · 27/01/2023 17:55

The Palace also issued exactly the same denial about Meghan taking slimming pills as it did for Kate having Botox by the way. In both cases the companies were falsely using the Duchesses to advertise their business. So in that case, yes Meghan was being protected. Along with all the many many other denials issued on her behalf.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28675767/meghan-markle-buckingham-palace-diet-pill-denial/

As Meghan herself said to her own father before the wedding, however, you can only tell the press that something they know to be true is false once (so it’s a weapon to be used very sparingly, in other words). So when the press were reporting true stories (as is now perfectly clear they were), there wasn’t a lot the press office could do…

BlackFriday · 27/01/2023 17:58

Well, he seemed to be passing blame for a row he had with Meghan back to his family.
"Where did you ever hear a man speak like that to a woman?" Harry says Meghan asked him. "Did you overhear adults speak that way when you were growing up? I cleared my throat, looked away. Yes.

So, Harry spoke harshly and cruelly as an adult, yet ducks responsibility, casting shade on, presumably, his father.

Nasty and a low blow.

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 18:02

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 17:54

Don't know about 'respected journalist', but it does seem he does trusts his source. Who seems to be Jason K. Don't follow VL, but have not yet come across him naming or even seeming to have directly spoken to the 'victims'.

Between an employee reporting about a 'split into two camps at KP' , an employee fired for trading in, and MM lawyer denied the allegations. I still have not found the definite proof that MM is a bully. That is without looking at her past where she was described as a sweetheart for over a decade.

To top it, no one has disputed what is said in the documentary and book - not even the palace source. H&M and friends all came out bold with their faces and chest saying these things.

Loads and loads of clout chasers out there, surely H&M will not sue bottom feeders like Lowe, Bower, Lady C etc.

Valentine Low interviewed several people for his book, not just Jason Knauf. These people all painted a similar picture, and one not favourable to Meghan. Several of these individuals are well known and fairly easily identifiable, at least to royal watchers. Not one of them has challenged his book. Surely they would do so if the account was false?

And to repeat, Meghan's lawyer has not denied the allegations. Not everyone is fooled by obvious legal obfuscation.

What coming "out bold with their faces and chest saying these things" means, I'm not entirely sure.

hoooops · 27/01/2023 18:18

The book clearly states
😂

Also, the Sussexes have not lied about anything.
😂😂

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