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25page doc debunking bullying lies

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notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 13:27

Ok, so tell me, why is the media who are always so forensic about H&M are not investigating and following up on what was on that report where H&M submitted that there was no bullying?

Why didn't the 'palace source' leak this document?

They usually give us a blow by blow account on anything negative about the couple.

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Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 22:25

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 22:04

I suspect that the 400 pages that were missed out cover that part.

Why are you stalking me and quoting another thread anyway? Posters like yourself have been hounding me across threads with this. I left you to it when you did not believe.

How sinister and quite unseettling. Guess that is the point? To try and intimidate me out of MN?

Get off my back, you weirdos !

Didn't believe what? You wouldn't elaborate on the sinister plot (despite repeated requests) because the British public apparently couldn't handle the truth. So what are you asking us to believe? You dropped this bollocks about the Queen Mother into a discussion and then refused to come up with any substantial facts. Don't complain and berate like you are on this thread, about why something or other isn't being discussed by mumsnetters, who obviously don't have the inside information you are claiming you have; when you are claiming insider knowledge by accusing the RF of basically plotting some awful demise for the Queen Mother, but refusing to elaborate why her family would do this. You are a complete hypocrite, not to mention that you sound completely batshit.

CPL593H · 27/01/2023 22:27

@notanotheroneagain I'm not stalking you. You are very much an identifiable name on the RF board. You made a series of extremely bizarre statements about the QMs death on a recent thread. It wasn't a question of us not "believing" but you repeatedly telling us to "leave it" as we would not cope with the truth, but also being unable or unwilling to elaborate further when questioned. It was great foolishness and also very memorable

You start multiple threads in support of H&M and will argue in their support until the cows come home, as is your right. Calling out blind and blinkered defence of them is also our right.

BlackBasket · 27/01/2023 22:32

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/01/2023 22:03

Plus the so called ‘leaks’ such as the bridesmaid dress incident happened once the palace was opened up to outside contractors. The Sussex’s are presuming Catherine leaked this to the press, whereas it is far more likely that loose lips were involved. As Catherine had nothing to do with planting the story, she is hardly going to correct it.

The palace also isn’t refuting the claims made in the documentary and the book for the same reason. Never complain. Never explain. H&M: Always complain. Always explain.

In essence, it is far more likely that H&M are presuming that they are being briefed against, firstly because they brief themselves, and secondly they would not hesitate to brief against others. Thus presuming other people would behave the same way as them. Classic black and white thinking, which is evidenced repeatedly in Harry’s book.

I read at the time it was the staff at the fitting who originally leaked the story.

For Harry to claim his brother and father ‘leaks and plants’ against him ‘daily’, there’s not much evidence of it….

Two stories, bullying and dressgate, and they’ve both been proven to be substantially true by his own words.

Where are the rest? Surely daily briefings against him to bolster William and Kate’s, and Camillas, reputations, would consist of more than a tit for tat who made who cry?!?

BlackBasket · 27/01/2023 22:33

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 22:25

Didn't believe what? You wouldn't elaborate on the sinister plot (despite repeated requests) because the British public apparently couldn't handle the truth. So what are you asking us to believe? You dropped this bollocks about the Queen Mother into a discussion and then refused to come up with any substantial facts. Don't complain and berate like you are on this thread, about why something or other isn't being discussed by mumsnetters, who obviously don't have the inside information you are claiming you have; when you are claiming insider knowledge by accusing the RF of basically plotting some awful demise for the Queen Mother, but refusing to elaborate why her family would do this. You are a complete hypocrite, not to mention that you sound completely batshit.

Lol that was funny.

It was all ‘you want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!’

And flounce.

Classic 😂

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 22:36

H&M were not briefing, they were being briefed against while at the palace.

That is made clear when their friends are told not to worry, H&M are covered by the palace.

So the friends think, this is BS and go to People magazine. MM former colleagues pretty much say this when interviewed on This Morning/

Says her mum and friends were in tears. 'Like, what are you talking about, are you seeing the headlines out there?'

They were not briefing while working for the palace.

Even if you argue they are briefing now, they are not briefing against other family members.

Big difference with saying, 'hey I will be at this place come take a snap' or 'I'm promoting this and that', with lying and saying 'Charles is doing this and that, go after him'.

Don't try to make it sound the same.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 27/01/2023 22:45

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 22:36

H&M were not briefing, they were being briefed against while at the palace.

That is made clear when their friends are told not to worry, H&M are covered by the palace.

So the friends think, this is BS and go to People magazine. MM former colleagues pretty much say this when interviewed on This Morning/

Says her mum and friends were in tears. 'Like, what are you talking about, are you seeing the headlines out there?'

They were not briefing while working for the palace.

Even if you argue they are briefing now, they are not briefing against other family members.

Big difference with saying, 'hey I will be at this place come take a snap' or 'I'm promoting this and that', with lying and saying 'Charles is doing this and that, go after him'.

Don't try to make it sound the same.

Did you read@BlackBasket post 21.31? Evidence suggests they are.

Ohnonevermind · 27/01/2023 22:52

Those of us living in the real word know H&M were briefing too.

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 22:58

@BlackBasket Funny yes. But also fucking awful and so distasteful. To suggest the beloved daughter of a beloved mother would plot some sort of - organised death?? - of a 100 year old woman for what reason? Something to do with Charles and Camilla's sex life (in 2002, when they were both free agents and free to have whatever relationship they wanted to have). And why make this up? To defend some drug addled man child and his utterly unreliable memory, to defend an absolutely glaring error that calls into question the entire contents of the Book of Moron. Scraping the barrel and proving you can't argue with stupid.

IcedPurple · 27/01/2023 23:01

Is this the same poster who posted an old photo of Zara's ex boyfriend and repeatedly and defiantly insisted it was William, even though it was blindingly obvious it was not? The bloke in the photo was about a head shorter than William for starters.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 23:07

Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 22:25

Didn't believe what? You wouldn't elaborate on the sinister plot (despite repeated requests) because the British public apparently couldn't handle the truth. So what are you asking us to believe? You dropped this bollocks about the Queen Mother into a discussion and then refused to come up with any substantial facts. Don't complain and berate like you are on this thread, about why something or other isn't being discussed by mumsnetters, who obviously don't have the inside information you are claiming you have; when you are claiming insider knowledge by accusing the RF of basically plotting some awful demise for the Queen Mother, but refusing to elaborate why her family would do this. You are a complete hypocrite, not to mention that you sound completely batshit.

I have been reporting you to MNHQ forever for lying about me across threads.

Stop talking shite, name changer !

I never said anything about someone offing the QM and you know it. You have been spreading this lie about me forever.

I did say, it could be that, us as the public were not told about her demise at correct time and accurately.

I also said not to go deep into it, asking so many questions, as lots would have to be reviewed - H would have to explains so many things he doesn't want to.

Turns out Harry says the same later, that 400 pages were taken out because they were too hurtful, this did not come as a surprise to me, or anyone who has been following their story and with half a brain could figure it out.

Please stop hounding me around threads because you are creeping me out.

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Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 23:17

us as the public were not told about her demise at correct time and accurately.

What possible reason could there be for this? Why are you making up this libel against the RF?

I also said not to go deep into it, asking so many questions, as lots would have to be reviewed - H would have to explains so many things he doesn't want to.

What would have to be reviewed? Why are you the arbiter of what "H" needs to explain? How do you know? Do you know him?

Turns out Harry says the same later, that 400 pages were taken out because they were too hurtful, this did not come as a surprise to me, or anyone who has been following their story and with half a brain could figure it out.

How can you possibly know what is in those 400 pages? How can you possibly know that anything to do with your QM death claims are in there? You are the very first person in the world as far as anyone knows to claim that something untoward happened with the QM death. What part of "following their story" - i.e. the Meghan and Harry story - would have led me or anyone else to believe that 21 years ago the QM's dean was manipulated in some way?

I'll challenge your batshit on any thread I want to, thanks. If you start a thread and spout libellous rubbish, expect to be questioned.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 23:28

I did not start that thread. Have not started many as claimed here.

This thread is clear : Why is no one leaking and investigating what the 25 pages are.

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Ridemeginger · 27/01/2023 23:39

But you did type posts on a thread libelling the RF about the Queen Mother's death. You've admitted it. So substantiate it.

Nobody here knows why the report hasn't been leaked or investigated. I assume as someone so in tune with Harry's mind, you have the answers to your own question.

BlackFriday · 28/01/2023 08:43

@notanotheroneagain, You seem to have a concern about name-changers on the MN site. Rather than hurl the term about as some kind of insult, perhaps take it up with MNHQ, as it is perfectly acceptable to change one's moniker under their current rules.

JonahCL9 · 28/01/2023 08:58

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 22:36

H&M were not briefing, they were being briefed against while at the palace.

That is made clear when their friends are told not to worry, H&M are covered by the palace.

So the friends think, this is BS and go to People magazine. MM former colleagues pretty much say this when interviewed on This Morning/

Says her mum and friends were in tears. 'Like, what are you talking about, are you seeing the headlines out there?'

They were not briefing while working for the palace.

Even if you argue they are briefing now, they are not briefing against other family members.

Big difference with saying, 'hey I will be at this place come take a snap' or 'I'm promoting this and that', with lying and saying 'Charles is doing this and that, go after him'.

Don't try to make it sound the same.

You're not possibly suggesting that PH/MM invited paps to photograph them are you? I mean that would imply that the terrifying'10 mins till safety' car ride pursued by a lone delivery guy press hound wasn't an accurate portrayal of their relationship with the press

mixedrecycling · 28/01/2023 09:09

In essence, it is far more likely that H&M are presuming that they are being briefed against, firstly because they brief themselves, and secondly they would not hesitate to brief against others. Thus presuming other people would behave the same way as them. Classic black and white thinking, which is evidenced repeatedly in Harry’s book.

This is what I have always assumed about their claims. Even before Meghan had to back track on Finding Freedom, and the judge pointing out the leaks from their team.

mummypigoink · 28/01/2023 09:21

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 23:28

I did not start that thread. Have not started many as claimed here.

This thread is clear : Why is no one leaking and investigating what the 25 pages are.

My guess: the bullying report found lots of poor behaviour by lots of people at every level and that the RF did not have good HR policies and procedures to deal with it.

That’s why no one is leaking: it’s a Mexican Standoff and they all lose.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/01/2023 09:26

*Why are you stalking me and quoting another thread anyway? Posters like yourself have been hounding me across threads with this. I left you to it when you did not believe.

How sinister and quite unseettling. Guess that is the point? To try and intimidate me out of MN?

Get off my back, you weirdos !*

Clearly the princely paranoia is infectious and OP has a bad case of it.

Bugeyedowl · 28/01/2023 13:46

Rhondaa · 27/01/2023 14:58

'Or more likely - they are trying to move on from the bullying report because they don't want to "do a Harry" and trash them publicly - when they go low we go high kind of thing.'

This. They aren't the mud slinging Markles, i bet they will have a shit load of stuff that would seriously damage Harold's diminishing credibility but they won't retaliate because the rf don't think they are on Jezza Kyle.

No, they do it secretively via the media instead, like cowards. Not 'going high' at all. Very low, in fact.

notanotheroneagain · 28/01/2023 14:00

mummypigoink · 28/01/2023 09:21

My guess: the bullying report found lots of poor behaviour by lots of people at every level and that the RF did not have good HR policies and procedures to deal with it.

That’s why no one is leaking: it’s a Mexican Standoff and they all lose.

My take too.

It will be a reminder that bullying and hot temper from Charles/Willy/ Anne from a few years back. Pulling out sinks etc. (tbf, I think Willy and H have their temper with the press, don't know of them abusing staff).

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notanotheroneagain · 28/01/2023 14:02

Bugeyedowl · 28/01/2023 13:46

No, they do it secretively via the media instead, like cowards. Not 'going high' at all. Very low, in fact.

They most certainly do brief on the low.

Had to laugh when someone said, KM cannot answer. 😂

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Ohnonevermind · 28/01/2023 16:57

@notanotheroneagain

Don’t forget Harry slapping staff 😀

purpledalmation · 28/01/2023 17:43

The document as a whole cannot be leaked, but parts about Meghans behaviour have leaked out, as well as Harry talking about staff upset, though he's careful not to say its meghan

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 18:17

It was allowed from the top that H could be treated any which way. The press, even subordinates could see they could treat him any which way and they would get away with it.

It's true this. The gunners used to fire Harry from the cannons used to do the 21 gun salute to check they were working. Queen Elizabeth said it was cheaper than using cannonballs.
True story. Off to sell it to The Sun.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 18:19

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/01/2023 09:26

*Why are you stalking me and quoting another thread anyway? Posters like yourself have been hounding me across threads with this. I left you to it when you did not believe.

How sinister and quite unseettling. Guess that is the point? To try and intimidate me out of MN?

Get off my back, you weirdos !*

Clearly the princely paranoia is infectious and OP has a bad case of it.

Have you ever seen the op and Harry in the same room at the same time? Hmm. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? 😁