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The royal family

52% of 18-24 year olds want monarchy abolished

314 replies

babsanderson · 19/01/2023 16:32

This was in a yougov poll. Support for the monarchy is at an all time low amongst younger people.

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Happyvalleyfan · 20/01/2023 21:16

I’m raising a wine glass to our youth!
Vive la révolution!
However I would be happy with a very trimmed down, more appropriately taxed monarchy
I will live in hope

MarshaMelrose · 20/01/2023 21:17

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:13

But come on, she had to live in a castle, have a yacht, wasn't expected to do a real day's work ever and also could bypass the law (inheritance tax). And then she can walk around with her disgrace of a son during services the tax payers fund.

Her life sounds.. so hard. Hoarding all that wealth and being proud of your inbreeding's family racist, colonial culture must have been a great dutiful effort.

Some people are honestly so brainwashed by the monarchy they'll never open their eyes 😂

She's worked longer and harder than you ever will. 🙄

EarthPunchingBack · 20/01/2023 21:18

@UWhatNow ”largely respected across the globe”? Hmm . . .

Not wanting to perpetuate a toxic system of inequality and privilege does not make you a misery 🙄.

Happyvalleyfan · 20/01/2023 21:19

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:09

That’s still only a third saying they support the Monarchy not being abolished

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:19

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:14

Having your son with you at your husband’s memorial service isn’t a “privilege”. It’s something any widow, whatever their status, would take for granted. It’s amazing how people think it’s sheer idiocy to “look up” to the monarchy yet insist on holding them to a higher standard than the rest of us.

If you're happy to benefit from the perks of the role, the bare minimum really is to act appropriately as monarch. It's not appropriate and you were already asked what kind of message you think this sends to women and girls all over the world but also just in Britain? But you don't seem to want to explain.

Nsenene · 20/01/2023 21:20

MarshaMelrose · 20/01/2023 21:15

Her son isn't a sex offender as far as we know. He hasn't even been charged with a crime, never mind convicted. If she wants her son at her husband's and his father's memorial service, then that's up to her. I would say the same for other widows as well.

He's a dirty old man at best.
Other widows aren't living a life of immense power and luxury, nor are they a representative of our nation. It was up to her. But it's entirely up to us what we think about it.

EarthPunchingBack · 20/01/2023 21:20

@MarshaMelrose seriously??? She certainly hasn’t worked harder than me or most of the people I know who work in various public services and still have to worry about how to make ends meet every day. What utter toadying nonsense 🤬.

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:20

MarshaMelrose · 20/01/2023 21:17

She's worked longer and harder than you ever will. 🙄

And you know me how exactly?

I actually work for a living instead of hoarding generational wealth that shouldn't belong to me in the first place.

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:20

Happyvalleyfan · 20/01/2023 21:19

That’s still only a third saying they support the Monarchy not being abolished

And a third who don’t know. It seems to be pretty equally divided between the three groups.

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:22

UWhatNow · 20/01/2023 21:15

You’ve clearly got an axe to grind but I saw plenty of people of all creeds and colours lining the streets and talking about ‘pride’ in Britain during the spectacle of the Queen’s jubilee. It was a great moment of national unity.

The whole western world has been built on slavery and racism. Tearing up the RF which is largely respected across the globe won’t repair that but miseries like you are never satisfied. 🙄

Respected? Ask people living in these colonised countries. People were celebrating her death, that's how negative her (and the wider monarchy) impact has been on some people.

Have you ever picked up a history book? Not one skewed to make you feel good about your heritage, a real one?

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:24

MarshaMelrose · 20/01/2023 21:15

Her son isn't a sex offender as far as we know. He hasn't even been charged with a crime, never mind convicted. If she wants her son at her husband's and his father's memorial service, then that's up to her. I would say the same for other widows as well.

Well most sex offenders don't face consequences. It's depressing to hear women say things like that.

Do you really believe he didn't do what he is accused of? Because the documents associated with this case and the fact he settled the case out of court would indicate otherwise.

EarthPunchingBack · 20/01/2023 21:24

@UWhatNow your previous argument for keeping the monarchy who’s truly dreadful.

There are plenty of republics in the world (indeed we have one which is a very close neighbour) that is a very successful example of a republic with a widely respected elected head of state. We don’t need to be “grey” 🙄. We just need to move into the 21st century.

EarthPunchingBack · 20/01/2023 21:24

Is not who’s

RocketIceLollie · 20/01/2023 21:25

Everyone is entitled go to their opinion I suppose, but what I never understand is how these polls are gathered. I've certainly never randomly been asked to take part in a yougov poll, and I'm not aware of anyone I know who has been asked to take part in such a poll either.

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:26

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:24

Well most sex offenders don't face consequences. It's depressing to hear women say things like that.

Do you really believe he didn't do what he is accused of? Because the documents associated with this case and the fact he settled the case out of court would indicate otherwise.

The police didn’t think so. Mind you, if it was the Met they do have shockingly low standards.

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:26

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:20

And a third who don’t know. It seems to be pretty equally divided between the three groups.

Which still means the majority of the country isn't positive about the monarchy.

That's more unity than we ever had in recent times (Brexit vote, general election) - you don't think a country should have more support for the monarchy existing I'd we're happy for them to leech off of us and be beyond the law?

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:27

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:26

The police didn’t think so. Mind you, if it was the Met they do have shockingly low standards.

But genuinely, what do you think? Putting our opposite views on the RF aside, is this how you really feel?

That it's okay to pull out "he wasn't sentenced" or "it wasn't proven"? What message is that for the vast majority of victims of sexual assault who never get justice because society pedals these narratives? That's so sad :(

Periodlate · 20/01/2023 21:28

Yeah I reckon it’s true. And great! Good for them! Maybe one day we’ll finally get rid of the monarchy!!

Happyvalleyfan · 20/01/2023 21:28

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:20

And a third who don’t know. It seems to be pretty equally divided between the three groups.

or a third haven’t really thought about it- let’s hope the recent shenanigans gives them more thought!
You can use statistics as you want to support your argument. You see it as a positive that only a third want to abolish the monarchy in this age group and a third don’t know?

I see it as a positive that only a third say they definitely wouldn’t abolish the monarchy

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:28

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:26

Which still means the majority of the country isn't positive about the monarchy.

That's more unity than we ever had in recent times (Brexit vote, general election) - you don't think a country should have more support for the monarchy existing I'd we're happy for them to leech off of us and be beyond the law?

You didn’t look at the chart. Those three percentages are 18-24 year olds. It’s 60% positive across all age groups.

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:29

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:28

You didn’t look at the chart. Those three percentages are 18-24 year olds. It’s 60% positive across all age groups.

Yes apologies for that. But that is also interesting seeing how over votes go (general election, Brexit) in these demographics who I'd argue end up disproportionately affected by the outcome of the voting.

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:30

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:29

Yes apologies for that. But that is also interesting seeing how over votes go (general election, Brexit) in these demographics who I'd argue end up disproportionately affected by the outcome of the voting.

I don’t understand that sentence.

Miajk · 20/01/2023 21:33

Blossomtoes · 20/01/2023 21:30

I don’t understand that sentence.

I'm refering to the fact that most major votes in recent years have had a very large divide by age group - younger people were less inclined to vote conservative or vote for Brexit.

But at the same time younger people often end up most screwed over by what happens after and have to deal with the consequences the longest. If you're 80 and you voted Brexit soon enough it won't matter to you, but if you're 20 your whole life trajectory has slightly changed.

MarshaMelrose · 20/01/2023 21:35

Nsenene · 20/01/2023 21:20

He's a dirty old man at best.
Other widows aren't living a life of immense power and luxury, nor are they a representative of our nation. It was up to her. But it's entirely up to us what we think about it.

There's a vast difference between a dirty old man and a sex offender. 🙄

Ohnonevermind · 20/01/2023 21:35

@Miajk

As 18-24 year olds have aged, they have historically become more favourable towards the monarchy, so it seems perfectly reasonable to expect majority support for the Royal Family to continue

you seemed to have not factored that into your predictions