52% of 18-24 year olds want monarchy abolished

[babsanderson]

This was in a yougov poll. Support for the monarchy is at an all time low amongst younger people.

I’m surprised it’s only 52% tbh. I find it a bit depressing it’s not higher.

My kids are in this age group and very anti-monarchy. Their friends too, from what I’ve witnessed.

So just run through those costings.
I'll start you off. The sovereign grant is £52m.
How much would a presidency cost?

Surely young people now see plenty more undeserving wealth than the youth 50, 60 plus years ago?
Se are now constantly bombarded by YouTubers, Insta influencers who earn a fortune through bollocks. You can get on reality tv and earn more from the spin offs than going to Uni and being something worthwhile. This was never possible before.

Democracy is better than the alternatives in politics but the royals aren’t political. They are constitutional figureheads. And they look after priceless bits of history.

People do soften their stance on the monarchy as they get older, but I think there is a gradual change here, and, has been suggested before, William or George or the next one, may be our last monarch.

It costs way less.

We could have voted Andrew out.

Doubt Charles would ever have been elected either

Why would anyone be voting Andrew out? He's not the Head of State. What would he be voted out of?

Younger people do change their minds as they get older. Before even thinking about abolishing the monarchy, there would need to be a fully workable replacement on the table. Surely Brexit is an example of what happens when you get rid of something with no alternative.

Hilarious.

I thought it would be in the 70%, at 18 I wanted everything abolished. Now I’m just Meh

When I was young I was meh about the Royal Family. Then I got older and learned more and realised what a bunch of crooks they are.

Exactly this.

People at so ignorant to the role the Monarch plays.

Snarling at lackeys bloody pens and trousering carrier bags full of dosh for his pet projects being two of the most recent examples?

We won't mention the paedo mates meddling in the legislative process.

At eighteen you presume yourself able to effect change.

Later on you realise whom you are living amongst.

And @Boulshired
if you actually look at the data only 30% of the 18-24 yo are positive about the monarchy. About half are actively negative and the rest don’t give a toss about them.

docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

I think this is really refreshing and hopeful.

There is a general move to conservatism with age, but a recent article in Guardian suggested our youths’ experience of austerity, student fees, climate change etc may mean this may be less likely. Would be super impressed if they can unshackle themselves from the nonsense fed by tabloids and actually think for themselves.

@Malariahilaria

36 palaces ffs. Andrew living the life of Riley and Charles waffling on about sustainability whilst heating said palaces and flying about in a helicopter. Nope.

What are you on about? There aren’t 36 royal palaces?? 😂😂
You do realise that the royal palaces house priceless royal collections and have to be heated. Most of the palaces are open to the public and, again, have to be heated.

Prince Andrew is disgraced and no longer carries out public duties.

As for the King flying in a helicopter. Other Heads of State are far more lavish and costly. Biden has Air Force One - which is in fact TWO Boeing 747-200B series aircraft at his beck and call. He also travels with a huge retinue of security and armoured cars.

I don’t know why you assume the alternative to our King as Head of State would be either cheaper or better for the planet.

So what? No-one has the time or political bandwidth to abolish the Royal Family. It would be an insane hijack of political activity and nothing else would get done in that Parliament. It would be Brexit x 1000000.

No politician would stand on that platform.

I'm surprised it's only 52%. I'm slightly older than that age bracket and don't think I know anyone my age who regards the monarchy well. To be honest, I know very few people of any age who could be considered pro monarchy, it's one of the few things my whole family seems to agree on.

@PersonaNonGarter

Just give it time - they have to reform or they’re doomed. Even KC can see that.

I agree there are more important electorate issues for now - but I hope labour do start to ask how they can pay more taxes etc and challenge inequality in UK. The RF epitomises inequality.

Now I think its a fucking con. 36 palaces ffs

Malariahilaria please can you name the 36 palaces?

It tells me more than enough, that's the problem

'To you he is disgraced but behind closed doors he is very much their brother, relative, father etc.'

Do you think Beatrice and Eugenie should go that favourite MN thing 'no contact ' with their father?

Casual ageism there.

Andrew’s security has been removed. And I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t want my taxes to be used to pay for a non working royal who lives in another country.

PH’s not asking for anyone other than him and his wife to pay for their security though? Do you have a source for your comment?

@Happyvalleyfan - Harry didn't think his security would be removed. He thought he had Internationally Protected Person status, which he did until he was no longer a working Royal!
His Dad paid for it for a while, then said he was on his own. Harry & Meg went to the US without fully thinking through their plans. Thought HMQ was bluffing when she said no to being part-time Royals.

Maybe @Sugarfree23 what you say is true- it makes sense that he should worry about his security - particularly seeing extent the tabloids went to locate him and hound him from the video footage in the documentary. Remember - this was PRIOR to H&M going « public » with their complaints.

I was disputing the suggestion that @Blossomtoes made that he was expecting the taxpayers should continue to pay for his security. I think facts are important if you’re going to be criticising people.

He absolutely expected someone else to be picking up the security bill. Either the US tax payer as an International Protected Person or the UK tax payer via the RF.

Neither of which has happened, its a big annual bill, more costly in the US than in the UK. US being the land of guns.

Also an individual house is more costly than somewhere like Kensington Palace where lots of minor Royals live, the security for it will be covered as one place . Same with the Windsor Estate.

You maybe right - please can I have your source for your information?