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Queen offered Meghan a choice of tiaras

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 13:17

Below is an extract that describes Meghan being given the tiara to wear for her wedding by the Queen. Another passage describes hoe Angela Levin would not allow Meghan to get access to the tiara before her wedding to practise it with her hairdresser.

"Next came the question of a tiara. My aunts asked if Meg would like to wear my mother’s. We were both touched. Meg then spent hours and hours with her dress designer, getting the veil to match the tiara, giving it a similar scalloped edge. Shortly before the wedding, however, Granny reached out. She offered us access to her collection of tiaras. She even invited us to Buckingham Palace to try them on. Do come over, I remember her saying.
Extraordinary morning. We walked into Granny’s private dressing room, right next to her bedroom, a space I’d never been in. Along with Granny was a jewelry expert, an eminent historian who knew the lineage of each stone in the royal collection. Also present was Granny’s dresser and confidante, Angela. Five tiaras were arrayed on a table, and Granny directed Meg to try on each one before a full-length mirror. I stood behind, watching.
One was all emeralds. One was aquamarines. Each was more dazzlingly stunning than the last. Each took my breath. I wasn’t the only one. Granny said to Meg quite tenderly: Tiaras suit you.
Meg melted. Thank you, Ma’am.
One of the five, however, stood out. Everyone agreed. It was beautiful, seemingly made for Meg. Granny said it would be placed in a safe directly and she looked forward to seeing it on Meg’s head come the Big Day. Make sure, she added, that you practice putting it on. With your hairdresser. It’s tricky and you don’t want to be doing it for the first time on the wedding day."

Spare, Harry

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Mumsnut · 17/01/2023 18:31

MarshaMelrose · 17/01/2023 17:41

Is Meghan still speaking to her?

Don't think so. That's why I'm hoping for a book ...

Enko · 17/01/2023 18:31

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 14:53

Eh?? You were the one who denigrated my critical thinking skills. Am sure you know the very old adage ‘if you can’t take it don’t dish it out’.

I didn't deny them. I suggested you needed to work on them. Please actually read what I am saying and don't assume.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 18:37

Enko · 17/01/2023 18:31

I didn't deny them. I suggested you needed to work on them. Please actually read what I am saying and don't assume.

Denigrate does not mean deny

hopeishere · 17/01/2023 18:40

If it was only a few weeks and they then had to make and embroider that new veil with the flowers on. No wonder the bridesmaids dresses were crap!

MarshaMelrose · 17/01/2023 18:42

Mumsnut · 17/01/2023 18:31

Don't think so. That's why I'm hoping for a book ...

Oo oo ooh. Exciting. 🥰

Bugeyedowl · 17/01/2023 18:42

TrashyPanda · 17/01/2023 17:49

Harry is probably a whole lot more reliable than the Daily Fail, to be honest

I don’t think many people would agree with you.

What basis do people have to believe the DM is reliable though? That's what I don't get. It's a known phenomenon that if a lie (about anything) is repeated enough times people start to think it's true. The BM have been doing this to their readers for years and years and it's become very hard for people to even question what they say, or think for themselves.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 18:49

Bugeyedowl · 17/01/2023 18:42

What basis do people have to believe the DM is reliable though? That's what I don't get. It's a known phenomenon that if a lie (about anything) is repeated enough times people start to think it's true. The BM have been doing this to their readers for years and years and it's become very hard for people to even question what they say, or think for themselves.

Why do people keep bringing the DM in to these threads when someone disagrees with them though? It’s pathetic and shows the really narrow views they have in their own world that they believe if someone has a counter argument it’s straight from the daily mail!

Enko · 17/01/2023 18:54

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 18:37

Denigrate does not mean deny

Oh I am so sorry I missed that you had used denigrated

As I understand it denigrated = unfairly criticise. I do not feel I have done that. I have suggested you work on your critical thinking as you have throughout here pushed your agenda that Harry is in the wrong. I say it is not that black and white.

Also stated I did not appreciate you putting words in my mouth yet you continuously ignore this. So again I do not feel I have unfairly criticised.

However, I do not believe you will actually let this one lie as that would = you had to acknowledge someone with an opposing view to you might have some level of a point and right now you come across as wishing to push your agenda. If that is not your intention then please I have misunderstood.

I have not got that strong an investment in this that I wish to change your view. All I am commenting is that we have 1 side (Harrys ) that we know is flawed at times and the media side that we know is flawed. I won't even say at times there. Hence we do not have a place where we can fully make a view. So there are possibilities.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:03

Enko · 17/01/2023 18:54

Oh I am so sorry I missed that you had used denigrated

As I understand it denigrated = unfairly criticise. I do not feel I have done that. I have suggested you work on your critical thinking as you have throughout here pushed your agenda that Harry is in the wrong. I say it is not that black and white.

Also stated I did not appreciate you putting words in my mouth yet you continuously ignore this. So again I do not feel I have unfairly criticised.

However, I do not believe you will actually let this one lie as that would = you had to acknowledge someone with an opposing view to you might have some level of a point and right now you come across as wishing to push your agenda. If that is not your intention then please I have misunderstood.

I have not got that strong an investment in this that I wish to change your view. All I am commenting is that we have 1 side (Harrys ) that we know is flawed at times and the media side that we know is flawed. I won't even say at times there. Hence we do not have a place where we can fully make a view. So there are possibilities.

I’ve no problem with you or anyone having an opposing view. You attacked me, I responded in a fairly non confrontational way that you have taken deeply to heart by the look of things.

TrashyPanda · 17/01/2023 19:06

Bugeyedowl · 17/01/2023 18:42

What basis do people have to believe the DM is reliable though? That's what I don't get. It's a known phenomenon that if a lie (about anything) is repeated enough times people start to think it's true. The BM have been doing this to their readers for years and years and it's become very hard for people to even question what they say, or think for themselves.

The point is that people know Harry lies.
therefore he is not reliable.

he has zero credibility.

Enko · 17/01/2023 19:07

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:03

I’ve no problem with you or anyone having an opposing view. You attacked me, I responded in a fairly non confrontational way that you have taken deeply to heart by the look of things.

I responded in kind. You didn't like it but expected me to take it. Your comment on how you are happy I agree Harry is an unadulterated misogynist was patronising and I responded to that.

If you did not intend it as patronising then please in future reconsider how you write such things. Then your recipient won't misunderstand.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:21

@Enko I didn’t expect anything from you. You’ve massively overthought this and over reacted to every thing I have said and have now spent the afternoon and early evening wasting your time sending me long messages about it.

Enko · 17/01/2023 19:41

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:21

@Enko I didn’t expect anything from you. You’ve massively overthought this and over reacted to every thing I have said and have now spent the afternoon and early evening wasting your time sending me long messages about it.

And you have replied. You can disengage if you do not want to have the conversation.

It is up to me how I spend my time and if I consider it wasted or not. I do not believe standing up to someone is wasting my time.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 19:46

@Enko 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

smilesy · 17/01/2023 19:56

@notanotheroneagain
OK, so you refuse, bizarrely, to accept that Harry is being unpleasant about a woman’s disability. What is your take on the quote below about the matron?

“Unlike other matrons, Pat wasn't hot. Pat was cold. Pat was small, mousy, frazzled and her hair fell greasily into her always tired eyes. Pat didn't seem to get much joy out of life."

simplefree · 17/01/2023 20:33

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:12

Come off it. Do you think any one would let Harry organise a wedding? Absolute madness. They had a team of people to help them. Meghan wasn’t ringing round florists for quotes and asking for a discount for cash was she?

discount for cash was she?

No - she wanted to sue her credit card

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 20:42

simplefree · 17/01/2023 20:33

discount for cash was she?

No - she wanted to sue her credit card

🤣🤣🤣 surprised they didn’t get it on a cash back site, poor mites

simplefree · 17/01/2023 21:10

not sue
*use

Donehere · 18/01/2023 12:52

"Tiaras suit you"...anyone else hear the subtle shade in HLMTQ's words?

MsBucket · 21/01/2023 05:02

Bugeyedowl · 17/01/2023 17:44

@notanotheroneagain It's such a joke - Harry didn't actually lie about the Xbox in the book! He says it's an account that he's heard many times but doesn't actually remember much of as it was his birthday a couple of weeks after Diana's funeral.

"It was an Xbox. I was pleased. I loved video games.
That's the story, anyway. It's appeared in many accounts of my life, as gospel, and I have no idea if it's true."

To beat him up about this and denounce the entire book as false is ridiculous and very unkind - the man says himself his memory isn't brilliant.

@Bugeyedowl But surely if a person’s memory isn’t that reliable, it’s incumbent on that person to check before writing? Especially if it has an effect on others?

Any single person’s memory at best is not always reliable and can easily be reconstructed to fit a narrative. It’s not always intentional. Some parts are forgotten, other parts are remembered. It happens to everyone.

MsBucket · 21/01/2023 05:06

Donehere · 18/01/2023 12:52

"Tiaras suit you"...anyone else hear the subtle shade in HLMTQ's words?

If that was indeed her words, it sounds like it was said it a matter of fact way and was meant as a compliment. There will only be shade if those words were accompanied by some subtle form of body language that indicates the opposite of what was said. None of us were there so we won’t ever know. But at face value, it sounds like a nice and straightforward compliment.

Whenharrymetsmelly · 21/01/2023 05:29

MsBucket · 21/01/2023 05:06

If that was indeed her words, it sounds like it was said it a matter of fact way and was meant as a compliment. There will only be shade if those words were accompanied by some subtle form of body language that indicates the opposite of what was said. None of us were there so we won’t ever know. But at face value, it sounds like a nice and straightforward compliment.

Agree. I thought it sounded very sweet when I saw that, like a lovely, sweet granny

SenecaFallsRedux · 21/01/2023 16:43

Donehere · 18/01/2023 12:52

"Tiaras suit you"...anyone else hear the subtle shade in HLMTQ's words?

Not at all. And the proof so to speak is in the wearing. Meghan did look lovely in the wedding tiara. It did very much suit her.

Besides, I don't think the late Queen, who was known to be very fond of Harry, would have "thrown shade" at his bride.

Ohnonevermind · 21/01/2023 16:50

To be fair, all the royal brides have looked beautiful in their tiaras. I’m sure the queen has given nice compliments to them all.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 21/01/2023 18:20

Ohnonevermind · 21/01/2023 16:50

To be fair, all the royal brides have looked beautiful in their tiaras. I’m sure the queen has given nice compliments to them all.

You'd have to be a deeply unpleasant person to tell any bride she didn't look nice in her wedding outfit.

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