Queen offered Meghan a choice of tiaras

[babsanderson]

Below is an extract that describes Meghan being given the tiara to wear for her wedding by the Queen. Another passage describes hoe Angela Levin would not allow Meghan to get access to the tiara before her wedding to practise it with her hairdresser.

"Next came the question of a tiara. My aunts asked if Meg would like to wear my mother’s. We were both touched. Meg then spent hours and hours with her dress designer, getting the veil to match the tiara, giving it a similar scalloped edge. Shortly before the wedding, however, Granny reached out. She offered us access to her collection of tiaras. She even invited us to Buckingham Palace to try them on. Do come over, I remember her saying.
Extraordinary morning. We walked into Granny’s private dressing room, right next to her bedroom, a space I’d never been in. Along with Granny was a jewelry expert, an eminent historian who knew the lineage of each stone in the royal collection. Also present was Granny’s dresser and confidante, Angela. Five tiaras were arrayed on a table, and Granny directed Meg to try on each one before a full-length mirror. I stood behind, watching.
One was all emeralds. One was aquamarines. Each was more dazzlingly stunning than the last. Each took my breath. I wasn’t the only one. Granny said to Meg quite tenderly: Tiaras suit you.
Meg melted. Thank you, Ma’am.
One of the five, however, stood out. Everyone agreed. It was beautiful, seemingly made for Meg. Granny said it would be placed in a safe directly and she looked forward to seeing it on Meg’s head come the Big Day. Make sure, she added, that you practice putting it on. With your hairdresser. It’s tricky and you don’t want to be doing it for the first time on the wedding day."

Spare, Harry

Angela Kelly New book out soon, your question maybe answered

What is beyond doubt is that Angela loyally served Harry’s late grandmother for over 20 years, and was counted as a friend and confident of the Queen.

It is appalling that Harry has repaid her dedicated and loving service to his late grandmother by criticising and trying to publicly humiliating her in his book.

It will be interesting to hear Angela Kelly’s version of events

I think any adult referring to themselves as team harry or team royal family would need to wise up tbh

You can think that.

I think any adult who is so convinced from reading a book that they know the full truth needs to work on their critical thinking.

We do know that Harry and Meghan like to ring repeatedly (wasn’t it every 10 minutes on a Friday evening in valentine lows book according to one staff member)

so Harry’s ‘ repeated unanswered calls’ could have been over a relatively short period outside normal working hours

Voicemail?
You leave a message and someone gets back to you.

But even of someone makes an unreasonable request of me while on holiday they will get me my out of office message saying I am on annual leave, when I am back, and who to contact if it is something urgent

Because of course the royal household is or should be run exactly like your workplace. 🙄

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain If you have any idea how the Royal workplace works then it is clear it is a shambles.

This, as someone said upthread, is a forum of women supporting women; but here I'm reading women defending a man of 38 describing his behaviour when he was 8 to a woman he didn't find attractive and who was disabled - and apparently neither he nor his defenders see anything wrong with that. Or is the 'context' that we should take from that he fully supports the rights of the disabled not to be treated with mockery and it's the wicked, wicked press distorting things again?

Some things are very clear to me. That isn't one of them.

@babsanderson

if angelas Kelly’s remit was a shambles the queen would have been dressed badly and jewels would have gone missing.

neither occurred.

im afraid any shambles was of Harry and Meghan’s making

I've read both her books. She is both formidably organised and effective (and has to be); and takes no nonsense.

PH seems to have a bit of a problem wih middle aged women. First Pat at school, then Camilla and Angela Kelly.

So organised that she can't put a simple out of office message on when she is on annual leave for a while?

Or get back to messages left?

Or maybe the truth is that she simply ignores anyone she sees as below her?

Don’t worry darling, I’ve read very widely. My critical thinking is A1 and moreover I don’t go round saying I am team whoever like I’m in p6

Oh FFS. This is like bashing your head against a brick wall because it's so nice when you stop.

Yet you can't put your point across without insulting people and nor can you acknowledge you put words in my mouth and apologise for that. You expected me to take it with no comment.

No, I do not think your critical thinking is " A1"

It is possible to have a different opinion and have a " healthy" debate. You could not even be bothered to research what I commented on in the first post where I stated it was in the queen's biography. Yet you are ok with assuming all sorts of stuff about me. A quick google would have given you that answer.

Consider how to put your point across in a manner so you do not come across as a steamroller. Right now you are so adamant your way is the right one you can't even entertain the idea that some parts may not be. This does not suggest critical thinking skills.

Eh?? You were the one who denigrated my critical thinking skills. Am sure you know the very old adage ‘if you can’t take it don’t dish it out’.

It is toxic though. A culture where you just ignore anyone you see as below you in the hierarchy.

To be honest, @babsanderson , you sound like you think in very hierarchical terms. That the Queen's dresser should have been at the beck and call of Harry and Meghan because she is "staff" while they are "family".

PH seems to have a bit of a problem wih middle aged women. First Pat at school, then Camilla and Angela Kelly.

And (in recent years) Kate. I wonder if it is related to the fact that (ime) many women really start to stand up for themselves in middle age, having spent much of their younger years trying to accommodate everyone. Harry doesn't seem to like the word "no". Particularly when it comes from women.

Go back and re read your response to me with regards to you being 'pleased I agree" with your words the. Ask yourself how that came across as if you did critical thinking. Patronising was how it came across. Someone who patronised. Rarely apply critical thinking.

@Eyerollcentral Sorry if I missed it, but when did Harry deride Anne? And what has he been saying about Camilla? I’m assuming it’s in his book?

Wild sweeping generalisation there from you. I asked you perfectly reasonable question about where your quotes were from. You’ve then become disproportionately upset because I said you agreed with me that harry was a misogynist. If you didn’t all you had to say was I don’t agree with you on that. But you didn’t, you came in throwing in allegations about my intelligence and ability to think for myself. Maybe don’t post things if you can’t take the replies, especially when they are totally reasonable