Is there anyone out there who is still on Harry’s side?

[Butterflyfluff]

And if so, how do you reconcile all the inconsistencies in his stories?

Most specifically him saying they never said the RF was racist, despite accepting an award for fighting racism in the RF?

I get there are people who are anti-royalist, but that doesn’t need to immediately translate to supporting H&M.

If anything, their actions are making the monarchy stronger because he can’t prove anything and people have no idea what ‘leaks’ he’s actually referring to.

Whilst the RF will have made mistakes, he should have dealt with family issues like an adult instead of monetising and exploiting. Plus even when he’s tried to rewrite history to make himself sound good, he doesn’t pull it off. Being nonchalant and indignant in equal measures over his cavalier attitude towards drink and drugs, a misstep. These behaviours shouldn’t be normalised. And aren’t healthy ways of dealing with life. Other people don’t have the wealth and resources to go to rehab and clean up afterwards, drugs and alcohol destroy lives. A shame he didn’t learn anything from all the rehab and homeless charities he visited when he was a working royal.

I was very anti to start with but after reading the book I do feel for him. The press have treated him so badly and absolutely trashed him and his wife. He has worked very hard he hasn't just sat about for years doing nothing. I wish him happiness in his life abroad and some peace.

I see Harry as a flawed human who had a severe trauma in his childhood that was not properly worked through.

I see Meghan as an American that was not at all prepared for living in the Royal family. I think she had good intentions and loves Harry.

I see William as a person who knows the weight of the crown in his future.

I see Catherine as a loving wife who's trying her best to support her husband and raise her children.

I see Charles as a person who did not have a close connection to his parents and had unhappy parts of his childhood and was pushed into marrying someone he was not compatible with.

I see Camilla as the person who finally helped Charles find happiness .

Overall what I see are flawed humans that are unable to keep family discourse quiet because of leaks to the press.

I support Harry because, despite people thinking he is a bad person, I see him as a flawed human who is trying his best to raise awareness of mental health issues by making it "ok" to talk about what happens during war.

I also support him taking on the press. In an ideal world, the family would have made a stand together to stop at least 30 years of bad behavior.

The award wasn't for fighting racism in the royal family According to the RFKHR, honourees are those who have demonstrated “an unwavering commitment to social change and worked to protect and advance equity, justice, and human rights”. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/07/harry-and-meghan-win-racial-justice-and-mental-health-award

That link even says the award was linked to the RF

‘Unfortunately the kind,compassionate people like myself don't see the need to express ourselves in social media unlike the hateful people.’

yet you’re posting this on social media…it’s a bit like Harry calling out his dad for leaking to the media, despite having leaked himself when he was a working royal, and then continuing to leak all over Netflix Oprah and Penguin random house
pot meet kettle

also a bit strong to call people you don’t agree with hateful, that’s not a kind or compassionate thing to do - again the contradiction and hypocrisy is staggering

I’m surprised at some of the comments on here. Accusing folks of being hateful whilst supporting a man who is attacking his family and the monarchy, the irony is significant. Objecting to someone vilifying their family and publicly attacking them and accusing them of being the haters. Totally illogical.

as is the argument people would only buy the book if they support him. Clearly not, people are reading it for voracious gossip and scandal.

I suspect Meghan isn’t at his side because he is a narcissist and told her he wanted to fly solo.

no one can realistically defend what he’s done. It is vile bullying abusive behaviour. He is attacking those who love him. His own family.

and he’s doing it for millions. It is not some altruistic cause. He’s done it for tens of millions.

This is how I feel too

@HundredMilesAnHour comprehension not your strong point?

Where did I say you have to know them to comment? I don't know any of them personally so can't make the judgement that Meghan only married Harry for a career move, that's the bit that's abnormal...

Yes, me. And everyone I've spoken to. Still really enjoying the book which is witty and moving - I'm appalled by how willing his family were to sacrifice him for their own PR. Its basically Rooney vs. Vardy, but if Vardy was Rooney's mum or sister.....

'I think Kate and William are 2 cold fish'.......there we go - 'be kind' in action.

The more hatred I see on MN the more I am astounded by how invested the anti Harry and Meghan brigade are. I’m sure time will change people’s opinions on the whole situation the same way the view of Wallace Simpson has changed over time. I see them as a young family that the media publish everything and anything to keep the hatred going to sell papers or get clicks. I honestly amazed how invested some people are with a couple they dislike so much. Personally the last people I would read about are those I don’t like.

No it is saying they won it just before The Netflix special came out which would trash the RF, the award nothing to do with the RF. The press are trying to get you to make the link - which they seem to have done well. I was a angry at their treatment from the press and lack of support from RF after watching Netflix show. From being forced to do a walkabout after his mother's death, constant harrasment from the press, he has a right ti say fuck you all. He never asked for it and the press killed his mother he's taking control of the narrative- probably in a very bad way but its his right. Is it trashy? Yes. Is it right? Dunno but its how he's chosen. The press always focus on 1 women coming into the family and make their life a nightmare be it Margaret, Fergie, Diana or Meghan.

Why did H&M accept an award for fighting racism in the RF if Harry is now saying they never said they’re racist?

Who on earth knows the answer. Maybe he regrets it, maybe he loves awards, maybe he still thinks it but was backtracking.

Hating someone based on information predominantly gained from biased tabloid press whose aim is to stoke readership numbers is also foolish, no?
You don't know these people.
They are strangers to you.
Why are you more than mildly interested? Why are you so obsessively bothered that you need to start threads about it?
None of this behaviour is balanced .

But why does he get to make such damning accusations on a whim yet everything anyone else says is a personal slur against him.

@HundredMilesAnHour but it is batshit behaviour to come up with imagined scenarios and then base a whole lot of judgement on this weird made up story in your head.

It is not about sides. It is about a highly dysfunctional family whose members need help - some are more vulnerable than others.

Members of the public cannot take sides because we do not know these people.

I don’t ‘hate’ him - where have I said that?

I would just like to know why those who unconditionally support them think what he is doing is any better than what he’s accusing others of.

Especially when we know he’s doing it for millions of dollars

It's not really a question of sides.

It's more nuanced.

But overall I think this book tends to show Harry as a bit of a wanker, with very unreliable recall of and grasp on facts

I'm on his side.

I like him.

Will on the other hand, not so fussed.

I wouldn’t say I support him, I have not read the book or watched the interview.
that’s why I have hardly posted on these threads.
unless you read the actual book, it’s a bit hard to have an opinion.

Can you explain your not so fussedness about William?

What I've found so odd is that there have been so many lies in his book and interview that have been substantiated and refuted.

He must have known this.

I don't care for him and his wife , I don't care for much of the RF really but they have all sunk to a new low.