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The royal family

Where is Meghan?

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StarInTheHeavens · 15/01/2023 19:07

I haven't seen hide-nor-hair of Meghan since the book release which is uncharacteristic of her. Even with the Montecito floods there was no news. So I'm wondering how this is playing out? Happiness or anger behind closed doors?

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Serenster · 04/03/2023 15:46

Meghan tipped off paparazzi regularly.

Yes - well-known paparazzi Jesal Parshotam has confirmed Meghan used to regularly call him to set up paparazzi shots in Toronto. He has also said that the photos he took of her wearing the M and H necklace in Toronto just after their relationship was made public, and the first photo of Meghan and Harry taken in public together, heading to Soho House in London, were by prior arrangement.

Lizziet64 · 04/03/2023 15:51

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Roussette · 04/03/2023 15:54

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 15:45

@Roussette Your posts are often factually incorrect as you refuse to do your homework.

So are you saying that the court papers that disclosed the texts between TM and H&M are incorrect? Because I think you need to look to yourself if so. Very silly.

The suit paragraph is just nonsense. He sold pictures for £100,000 to the Sun and the DM. "If he simply wanted to make money why have a suit measured to attend his daughters wedding?" you say.

You just don't get it. He wanted to sell pictures for money. What better way than to have pictures taken of him being measured for a wedding suit. The likes of the Sun wouldn't be interested in him sat doing nothing, it was engineered to sell, for money. You call that naive, I call it unpleasant.

You are not worth engaging with because you just make it up as you go along.

ThighMistress · 04/03/2023 16:07

So, @roussette, don’t you think Harry should have met Thomas Markle before the engagement or wedding? Not to ask for her hand in marriage or anything outdated, but just as a common courtesy…. Unless of course Meghan felt he (TM) was not up to par.

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 16:12

@Roussette The court case exposed Meghan as an out and out liar including committing perjury.

Personally, I don't want to engage with someone who repeats lies and can't google or educate herself re facts. You're perfectly entitled to call Thomas unpleasant, but that is simply your opinion. Opinions aren't facts.

Not doubling down on your misinformation regarding the NZ airlines lie then?

derxa · 04/03/2023 16:15

ThighMistress · 04/03/2023 16:07

So, @roussette, don’t you think Harry should have met Thomas Markle before the engagement or wedding? Not to ask for her hand in marriage or anything outdated, but just as a common courtesy…. Unless of course Meghan felt he (TM) was not up to par.

It was totally disgraceful. It's amazing the low standards people excuse on here.

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:18

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 16:12

@Roussette The court case exposed Meghan as an out and out liar including committing perjury.

Personally, I don't want to engage with someone who repeats lies and can't google or educate herself re facts. You're perfectly entitled to call Thomas unpleasant, but that is simply your opinion. Opinions aren't facts.

Not doubling down on your misinformation regarding the NZ airlines lie then?

Insult me all you want, it's water off a duck's back. It has been shown that you ignore facts and just put a spin on anything that knocks Meghan.

As I said, I had no idea about the NZ airline story. Crime of the century clearly. No misinformation because all I said was I knew nothing about non existent flights. How that is 'misinformation' from me, god alone knows.

Anyway, let's agree not to engage with each other, much the best way, when you ignore facts. Like the texts.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2023 16:18

Anyone talking about anyone else’s children and parenting is a troll

So how does that differ from Meghan's own remark that Samantha lost custody of three children by different fathers?

I'd not posted on this one before since "Where's Meghan?" doesn't interest me, but I'd love to know the answer to that one

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:21

ThighMistress · 04/03/2023 16:07

So, @roussette, don’t you think Harry should have met Thomas Markle before the engagement or wedding? Not to ask for her hand in marriage or anything outdated, but just as a common courtesy…. Unless of course Meghan felt he (TM) was not up to par.

Personally, I think he should have met TM in advance.

However, given the court supplied texts where they were doing their utmost to engage with him, help him, look after him in advance of the wedding, with him ignoring them, not answering the phone ... who knows why they didn't meet.
If it was something simple, yes it is wrong.
If it was anything else, I would like to know about it.
But we never will.

There you go, I've answered your post.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 04/03/2023 16:26

@purpledalmation

Thomas Markle lives in a Mexican town that borders with the United States. The closest international airport in his city is LAX in Los Angeles, from where New Zealand operates flights to Heathrow.

You clearly have not read the memoir as Harry does not say the booked flight was from Mexico. And the first class business class distinction is not that big a deal as Harry probably only flies first class and would not know that "Business Premier" is what Air NZ calls its most expensive cabin. Thomas has also confirmed that he went to Beverly Hills, arranged by Meghan, to get suited and booted, which makes the staged photos even sillier as he could have staged them in Beverly Hills instead of getting cheap hoodies made in Rosarito. He was definitely going to the wedding.

@Roussette

I have argued before that the sympathy for Thomas and Samantha Markle, in contrast to the unpleasant rumours spread about Doria, is largely to do with the fact that people identify more with people who look like them than those who don't. Nothing else explains why they continue to get sympathy.

There is also a lot of amnesia. That whole family has been batty since the relationship was announced.

Samantha started attacking Meghan in the media long BEFORE the wedding. Thomas Markle Junior wrote an open letter to Harry saying he should not marry Meghan-- this was BEFORE the wedding. They both then sort of apologised, but doubled down after they did not get invited to the wedding.

Thomas Snr got paid to stage photos, then lied that he knew nothing about it, He then informed Meghan he was not coming to the wedding through TMZ, and refused to confirm what hospital he was in. He then went on a spree of interviews blackmailing her.

He was coming to the Jubilee to be hosted by GBNews, and was supposed to stay with Lady Colin Campbell who makes regular, almost nightly videos about Meghan hinting at surrogacies and divorce. He then had a stroke and couldn't come.

He talked to Tom Bower for his book. He was frequently on with Piers Morgan. He offered to be a witness for the Daily Mail. He is going to be a witness for Samantha if the court case goes on. He appears frequently on You Tube Meghan hate channels. His most recent ones saw him taking questions about whether Meghan had had an abortion as a teenager, whether Archie and Lili wee created from frozen eggs, whether she had been married before Trevor. and whether she had been a "yacht girl'. I kid you not.

He and Samantha do a LOT of interviews on these conspiracy channels, giving the bullshit currency.

On the children with different fathers thing: Samantha had been telling the media she "raised Meghan". Meghan responded that no, she did not even raise her own children, she had three children with different fathers and lost custody of them all. That was the context, nothing to do with "slut shaming".

Thomas Markle Jar only recently connected with Samantha, before the wedding he was slagging her off in the media and she was slagging him off.

Thomas Markle Snr complains about not seeing Archie and Lili but is NOT in touch with all five of his other grandchildren (all three of Samantha's kids) nor with Thomas Jr's two kids, and Jnr himself is estranged from those kids. Samantha's daughter Noelle spoke about the physical abuse she received from Samantha as a child. Samantha is not in touch with any of her kids. Samantha and her brother are estranged from their mother, and in fact, from all accounts, the years Doria was married to Thomas Markle was the only time they had the semblance of a regular family -- but still called her The Maid to their friends.

It's a shit show of dysfunction. I suspect that Harry and Meghan are trauma bonded by their whackjob families.

derxa · 04/03/2023 16:29

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:21

Personally, I think he should have met TM in advance.

However, given the court supplied texts where they were doing their utmost to engage with him, help him, look after him in advance of the wedding, with him ignoring them, not answering the phone ... who knows why they didn't meet.
If it was something simple, yes it is wrong.
If it was anything else, I would like to know about it.
But we never will.

There you go, I've answered your post.

They were harrassing an ill man in a very disrespectful way.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 04/03/2023 16:31

And right on cue comes @derxa 😅

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:35

I can't believe you mean that @derxa. Have you read the texts? There's a link further up.

Ohnonevermind · 04/03/2023 16:36

@Roussette

unless you are a lawyer or the judge in the court case, you have not read all the texts - see the linked document above

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:37

Thank you @MrsMaxDeWinter for your full explanation what the family were really like.

It astounds (and amuses at times) me that someone like Samantha can be so vigorously defended given what she is like. As you say, I think we know why, and of course... by defending her, they are knocking Meghan. It's a well known modus operandi.

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 16:38

@Roussette Along with these text messages etc etc, were the tickets for a flight that didn't exist! According to Harry! So that was a lie. How can we believe the story of text messages being ignored? Are they another concoction like the plane tickets? The point I keep trying to make is if you tell one lot of lies (and they have massive form for lying) then why should people believe anything you say?

I don't wish to engage with you either, but your constant defence of the indefensible, your inaccuracies, misdirection, etc don't deserve to go unchallenged.

I don't apologise for feeling sorry for a sick elderly man who devoted years to his beloved daughter only to be thrown aside because he'd served his purpose. Call me sentimental but that's not the way anyone declaring herself a humanitarian should behave.

derxa · 04/03/2023 16:38

MrsMaxDeWinter · 04/03/2023 16:26

@purpledalmation

Thomas Markle lives in a Mexican town that borders with the United States. The closest international airport in his city is LAX in Los Angeles, from where New Zealand operates flights to Heathrow.

You clearly have not read the memoir as Harry does not say the booked flight was from Mexico. And the first class business class distinction is not that big a deal as Harry probably only flies first class and would not know that "Business Premier" is what Air NZ calls its most expensive cabin. Thomas has also confirmed that he went to Beverly Hills, arranged by Meghan, to get suited and booted, which makes the staged photos even sillier as he could have staged them in Beverly Hills instead of getting cheap hoodies made in Rosarito. He was definitely going to the wedding.

@Roussette

I have argued before that the sympathy for Thomas and Samantha Markle, in contrast to the unpleasant rumours spread about Doria, is largely to do with the fact that people identify more with people who look like them than those who don't. Nothing else explains why they continue to get sympathy.

There is also a lot of amnesia. That whole family has been batty since the relationship was announced.

Samantha started attacking Meghan in the media long BEFORE the wedding. Thomas Markle Junior wrote an open letter to Harry saying he should not marry Meghan-- this was BEFORE the wedding. They both then sort of apologised, but doubled down after they did not get invited to the wedding.

Thomas Snr got paid to stage photos, then lied that he knew nothing about it, He then informed Meghan he was not coming to the wedding through TMZ, and refused to confirm what hospital he was in. He then went on a spree of interviews blackmailing her.

He was coming to the Jubilee to be hosted by GBNews, and was supposed to stay with Lady Colin Campbell who makes regular, almost nightly videos about Meghan hinting at surrogacies and divorce. He then had a stroke and couldn't come.

He talked to Tom Bower for his book. He was frequently on with Piers Morgan. He offered to be a witness for the Daily Mail. He is going to be a witness for Samantha if the court case goes on. He appears frequently on You Tube Meghan hate channels. His most recent ones saw him taking questions about whether Meghan had had an abortion as a teenager, whether Archie and Lili wee created from frozen eggs, whether she had been married before Trevor. and whether she had been a "yacht girl'. I kid you not.

He and Samantha do a LOT of interviews on these conspiracy channels, giving the bullshit currency.

On the children with different fathers thing: Samantha had been telling the media she "raised Meghan". Meghan responded that no, she did not even raise her own children, she had three children with different fathers and lost custody of them all. That was the context, nothing to do with "slut shaming".

Thomas Markle Jar only recently connected with Samantha, before the wedding he was slagging her off in the media and she was slagging him off.

Thomas Markle Snr complains about not seeing Archie and Lili but is NOT in touch with all five of his other grandchildren (all three of Samantha's kids) nor with Thomas Jr's two kids, and Jnr himself is estranged from those kids. Samantha's daughter Noelle spoke about the physical abuse she received from Samantha as a child. Samantha is not in touch with any of her kids. Samantha and her brother are estranged from their mother, and in fact, from all accounts, the years Doria was married to Thomas Markle was the only time they had the semblance of a regular family -- but still called her The Maid to their friends.

It's a shit show of dysfunction. I suspect that Harry and Meghan are trauma bonded by their whackjob families.

And yet Meghan appeared to love her father and praised him before she met Harry. Did TM suddenly have a personality transplant? When he had his lottery win, he spent it on his children. He didn't squirrel it away for himself.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2023 16:38

On the children with different fathers thing: Samantha had been telling the media she "raised Meghan". Meghan responded that no, she did not even raise her own children, she had three children with different fathers and lost custody of them all. That was the context, nothing to do with "slut shaming"

It doesn't really work though does it?
Nothing at all wrong with Meghan correcting the bit about Samantha having raised her, but why bring her half sister's children into it except to be spiteful?

To be clear I'm absolutely no defender of any of them and believe they're all as bad as each other, but I'm interested in some getting a "pass" and others apparently not

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:39

Of course I'm not a lawyer in the court case lol.

We dont know the content of the text from Harry do we?

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 16:39

@MrsMaxDeWinter NZ airlines put out a robust denial of Harry's words. They are an international company. I take their word for it rather than someone on Mumsnet.

purpledalmation · 04/03/2023 16:42

@derxa Thomas apparently (according to him) have a lottery win, but he did work 18 hour days as a lighting expert to pay for meghans schooling. It's just what he says and one of the reasons Meghan spent so much time on film sets as a young teen.

derxa · 04/03/2023 16:43

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:35

I can't believe you mean that @derxa. Have you read the texts? There's a link further up.

I've read it. Those texts sound like the letter sent to her father. Painting a very self serving narrative.

Roussette · 04/03/2023 16:43

derxa · 04/03/2023 16:38

And yet Meghan appeared to love her father and praised him before she met Harry. Did TM suddenly have a personality transplant? When he had his lottery win, he spent it on his children. He didn't squirrel it away for himself.

He won the lottery when Meghan was 9, and lost the bulk of it in a failed jewellery business, then filed for bankruptcy. He did however, buy a car for another daughter, gave some to his son, and paid tuition fees for Meghan. It is incorrect say he spent it all on his children.

declutteringmymind · 04/03/2023 16:43

She's taking a step back to let him shine.