What should Charles and William do?

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Where can the royal family go from here? What do you think Charles, Camilla, Kate and William should do?

Can they trust the Sussexes ever again? Probably not.

Where do the family go from here and how do they get there? Can this situation be resolved where everyone is happy or at least content?

Lots of people are very angry with Harry now but how do they and those who are Harry fans want the King to handle this?

They need to leak the bullying report. Have it accidently left on a bench by an advisor at Victoria Station of similar.

Maybe a bit off topic, but what I don't understand is how it is that Mike and Zara Tindall lead a fairly ordinary life, pursuing their careers, with a bit of media stuff they do for money (IACGMOOH), but which they manage to do without betraying any confidences or apparently feeling at all hard done by.
If Harry hates all things posh and just wants to live a normal life, why doesn't he do so? Just go and get a job. Only of course he can't do that now, because he's made himself and his family even more of a target for every nutjob on the planet.

In fairness to Harry the population would never have treated him like Zara. After Diana and with him being an only sibling he was always going to be in the fishbowl. What I don’t understand is why they didn’t take Annes approach with their own children.

Zara's parents took a stand against their own dysfunctional family very early on. Anne was a trailblazer and never felt the need to bleat on about why she was doing it. This produced relatively normal kids. Harry's parents were individually dysfunctional and grumbled about aspects of the monarchy which bothered them from time to time. however, they never really took any practical decisions to change things for W and H. Perhaps it was not possible because they were too close to the throne.
What is at the heart of Harry's credibility problem is that he recognizes the rot but he simply wont let go of the family, the titles, the grand lifestyle. He has the money to turn his back on it and live well even if he is not employable anywhere. Meghan who comes from a really ordinary background cannot be excused for not discouraging this and showing him a more common way to live similar to her own upbringing. She is also covetous.

Because Harry married Limelight Lil
who wants the adulation and starring role but was miffed when she realised that she was not going to be centre stage.

If Harry and Meghan had gone off to the US and got on with building careers or a business of some description, been boring, the press would have left them alone. Just the same as they are leaving Andrew alone, yesterday's new is boring.

Instead they have courted the media, interviews, books, netflix all sold on being ex-royals.
They've kept themselves in the spotlight.

Do you really not think if there was anything negative it would have been ‘leaked’?

If the bullying report was leaked it would be dismissed as made up propaganda and proving Harry and Meghan correct about briefing against them. It may also contain private information of third parties

That’s their nuclear bomb.

Maybe it has worked somewhat as a deterrent - he has rowed back / fudged the racist insinuations and these weren’t explored further in NF or the book?

The issue is with the bullying bomb is that there is loads of shit about how the institution / employer didn’t protect its employees from bullying from MM - but also from other staff and members of the RF.

Would be like blowing up a cess-put.

But don't you think that he has really glossed over the bullying stories in his book? He is not holding back regarding other issues so if there was no dirt against her, he would have made sure that the reader knew about it, using fake identities for employees if necessary. I believe that one of the ex-employees will leak some of the findings without the text of the report being revealed.

It’s a difficult one if you’re an ex member of their staff who Meghan allegedly bullied. They may have signed documents as part of their employment to keep their gobs shut or it could be that even if they were unfairly treated they don’t want to be seen as a risk by future employers as someone who will talk.

however, they never really took any practical decisions to change things for W and H.

I think this is why Charles and the Queen gave William and Kate so much time to themselves before and after marriage. They let them have a young family and,ease into their duties.
I believe they said the same thing to Meghan. To take her time and watch and learn. But Meghan was all for "hitting the ground running".

It was all leaked before the report. We've already heard a load of thingsshe said and did. To leak the report would just confirm the RF leak.

I see that the Royal Family in the form of Clarence House / Buckingham Palace / Charles & Camilla are back to their old tricks of using 'friends' and 'dinner party guests' to act as 'sources' to talk to the press
It's like they can't help themselves. All they had to do was maintain a dignified silence, and keeping reaping the wave of sympathy. But no

Sadly it was to be expected, since it forms a large part of their M.O. and seems one of Harry's only valid points

There'll be no defence of the palace coming from me - it's just a shame that Harry's let himself down so badly by behaving as badly or worse, and producing the book he has instead of a worthwhile account which might have been enlightening

If the RF (Camilla?) have been briefing / leaking / planting against PH for decades and he has known about it throughout why did he want half in half out?

There is no way that HMTQ would not have given her approval to this PR strategy.

Camilla wasn’t going rogue - so this is their (RF) MO and always has been.

So why did he continue to support the RF in his duty and loyalty before and after MM was part of his life?

If he knew this relentless anti PH was ongoing why did he want half in half out?

Also, it clearly didn't work because Harry was, until recently, very popular. I don't recall negative stories against him.
Like you, @TicketMasterMind , I find the whole thing implausible.

Absolutely this ^^
The thinly veiled threats amount to blackmail so I can’t imagine anyone wanting to divulge anything remotely useful for a future ‘memoir’ or documentary.

Zara's parents took a stand against their own dysfunctional family very early on. Anne was a trailblazer and never felt the need to bleat on about why she was doing it. This produced relatively normal kids.
I'm no royalist, but do have a lot of time for Anne. She seems to be hard working and has a level head on her shoulders.

Edward and Sophie also seem to get on with life, stay out the press, have prioritised raising children without prince/princess titles, and generally seem to try to prepare their children for life beyond the royal family.

The press were never going to leave William and Harry alone as sons of the heir, but other members of the royal family have shown that there's a lot of other options other than running to the press every five seconds.

I think Harry could have managed to live a private life; there would still be interest, but not necessarily intrusion. He just needed not to provide the press with it.
Many of them manage to live a day to day life without being papped and without salacious headlines.

I think people who believe that Harry and Meghan have never approached the press with stories need serious help. They have been no different from anyone. Everyone of these people have communications and PR teams who network and are connected to the media and the press. They also all have third party connections who can 'leak' stories or events without it coming directly from their teams. Harry and Meghan are no different at all. They do the same as every famous person with comms teams who benefits from press - good and bad.

Charles and William and the rest should just ignore, take the high road, stay quiet publicly and carry on. No need to reconcile. Let Harry and Meghan live their California life and the rest can carry on with their RF life in the UK. Families drift apart all the time. Many siblings aren't close and lots of people aren't close to their parents or in-laws. They should each just live their own lives. The RF has pretty much done that through this whole mud slinging foray and Harry and Meghan clearly haven't reconciled with Thomas Markle so requests to reconcile with RF seems like just more publicity stunt.

Unfortunately the only thing Harry and Meghan seem to have to make money off of right now is dirt about the RF and going to the media / press with more anti-RF content so they are a bit stuck. Maybe they could get a reality show about their day to day life. They seem to have a lot of fans and that could fly.

Charles and William and the rest should just ignore, take the high road, stay quiet publicly and carry on

Charles signalled that very clearly in his accession speech

"I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas"

I'm sorry, I don't quite follow you? Was the 'H & M haters' directed at me? I'll admit, I was quite anti them after the interview, but then I realised that I don't know what happened - I don't hate them, I'm just frustrated by their vague hints and backtracking.

Charles talked about slimming down the monarchy long before Meghan came on the scene, so it's not ridiculous to assume that this was more along those lines. Also, the couple said they wanted to modern and their children didn't need titles - which is it? Of course, those who think they're lying aren't now saying 'Oh, they were telling the truth about racism' - but what they were describing was racist by most people's definition - if true.

I think this is what undermines M&H the most. The lack of coherence or sense from their supporters.

He’s not even good at blackmail - it doesn’t make sense.

He didn’t say ‘I have stories about the RF’
He said ‘I know the British press have stories’ (to make it look like it’s not blackmail, and he’s not the one threatening)

But… how would you know what stories the British press have? Unless you were the one who gave them the stories?

Or if not, and you’re just saying that you know things, why bring the press into it at all?

He just wants to throw stones and hide his hands.

It's been known for decades that Charles wanted to slim down the monarchy. He's also supposedly resisted (pre sex scandal) Andrew's various rumoured attempts to get his children to be working royals.

Given this, and the fact that Edward's children don't use their prince/princess titles, it seems reasonable that Charles' intention was to reduce prince and princess titles to only children of current or expected future sovereigns. It would entirely fit with what we've seen and would effectively be slimming it down by a generation (as it's currently grandchildren of a sovereign)

If that was the intention then William's children would be prince/princess (as they are) but Harry's wouldn't. And then only George's children would be prince/princess, Charlotte and Louis' wouldn't.

Also mirrors what has happened in other countries.