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What should Charles and William do?

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FunsTheWord · 15/01/2023 12:49

Where can the royal family go from here? What do you think Charles, Camilla, Kate and William should do?

Can they trust the Sussexes ever again? Probably not.

Where do the family go from here and how do they get there? Can this situation be resolved where everyone is happy or at least content?

Lots of people are very angry with Harry now but how do they and those who are Harry fans want the King to handle this?

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iCouldSleepForAYear · 15/01/2023 14:39

@Sugarfree23

Then perhaps the Royal Family need to reform how they approach charitable work.

giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

If they want to be adored and embraced by the public, they will have to acknowledge the staggering income inequality between themselves and their subjects. The resentment that generates won't disappear, no matter how many headlines call Harry crazy and Meghan a bitch. The RF will have to have a more positive and immediate effect on the lives of the public, and they'll have to make a better effort with their charitable endeavours than they have thus far.

I'm aware of initiatives like the Prince's Trust. But is the effect as great today, given circumstances like cost of living crisis and inflation?

flabbygoldfish · 15/01/2023 14:44

NowDoYouBelieveMe · 15/01/2023 14:13

A duel with Harry and Megan.

Winner gets the throne.

W vs H - I suspect W would win.

K vs M - not so sure, I think K would put up a decent fight but suspect M fights dirty.

LadyKenya · 15/01/2023 14:44

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 15/01/2023 12:55

That's entirely up to them.

Like with any family fall out, you don't need advice and speculation from absolute strangers.

100% Agree.

Streamside · 15/01/2023 14:59

I think a statement acknowledging their love for Harry and his family, the difficulty involved in relationships etc and their hope for reconciliation in the future, recollections may vary etc would be helpful. Harry's being given enough rope to hang himself and he's doing a pretty good job of it. I think our real concern should lie with the next generation,I've no doubt William and Kate's children are beautifully looked after but they've lost what could have been a linchpin in their lives and Harry's children have also lost out.

F4chrissakes · 15/01/2023 15:00

Charles and William should keep on with the dignified silence, and if they eventually have to say something, then repeating the Queens wise statement of recollections varying. After all, Harry's book shows him to be rather more nasty than the other royals anyway. And certainly a lot more messed up.
As far as the coronation is concerned, I don't give a monkeys whether Harry and his wife attend or not. But I do care about the vast amount of public money to be spent on this spectacle, when the country is in such a terrible state.

bakalava · 15/01/2023 15:06

Phos · 15/01/2023 13:56

H&M are too self centred to bother with their niece and nephews (of whom Markle is jealous anyway)

I believe her jealousy and vanity was at the heart of why she upped sticks. She felt jealous that Kate came from a happy, close nuclear family and had genuine close friends with kids of similar age. Prince George is a truly gorgeous child and she thought that he would always put her own child in the shade.

MalagaNights · 15/01/2023 15:06

I think they should ask M &H to give up their titles.

I think there should be agreement on both sides that noone will speak publically or leak about others.

I think they should come to the coronation. Appear at the public ceremony but not expect to be involved in family celebrations.

After a period of quiet and calm they should agree that they will try to reconnect privately. Maybe come to Balmoral with the kids for a few days for example and take it from there.

In reality it's going to be difficult because I actually think the central issue is the family don't like Meghan.

There are lots of families where someone marries someone the family take against (justified and unjustified) and it's very hard to maintain as they know they're being tolerated whilst being disliked which is very hard.

The most that is usually managed is civility at family events.

Streamside · 15/01/2023 15:08

Backfor2022 · 15/01/2023 14:38

What they do to resolve their private family business is up to them.

What decisions are made about the monarchy, the coronation, Harry’s titles, his place in the line of succession, etc. are a matter of public interest and so the public’s voice should be heard. It may be that the majority do not want Harry to attend, and ruin by his presence, the coronation for the whole country.
Decisions about his titles should not be made by the family but by the government.
He has those titles because we have a monarchy and I think the country has a right to express an opinion about whether we want him to continue to hold those titles, given all that he has said and the fact he has no intention of living here again.

He’s clearly bullying his family and threatening them with more revelations in a second book. If he’s welcomed back after this, what message does that send to the country? You can get what you want by humiliating others? Two wrongs make a right?

What a refreshingly lucid post with a few angles I've not thought through.

bakalava · 15/01/2023 15:08

I think Harry will definitely not agree to meet in person because he is worried that there may exist grounds to get him into trouble for leaking to that extent. He has described the layout of BP in some detail and gone too far on many counts. If I were him, I'd keep away for now!

AliceOlive · 15/01/2023 15:11

I wonder about the rumored NDA’s that were signed to protect Harry and later, Meghan. If these exist, who has the ability to release them? I know KC would never allow that, but it would be great to hear from all the people who signed. Since Harry thinks the “truth” is important, how could he object?

dottiedodah · 15/01/2023 15:13

I think it would be very difficult to make up properly sadly. W&K must be feeling pretty sore by now.I dont think H is a bad man ,he comes across as rather weak and naive. By its very nature being a "Spare" has its own challenges ,Princess Margaret never really carved out her own role ,always the Queens Sister nor settled to anything .PH could have continued his Army Career, or become an Ambassador.Meghan is an American Actress and although she loves Harry ,I think his status was an attraction for her.She was unhappy playing 2nd to W&K I think ,PH seemed a lot happier with W&K saying K was the sister he had never had.

lunar1 · 15/01/2023 15:17

I think they should never be alone in a room with H&M. If they decide to talk the meetings should be recorded for their future protection.

There will be less future earning potential unless PH gets to spend time with the RF.

LlynTegid · 15/01/2023 15:20

Whilst I agree that decisions on titles should be made by the government, I cannot see the removal of titles happening. No political party even with the kind of majority that Margaret Thatcher or Tony Blair had would risk alienating some of their support.

As for the Coronation, I think sadly that they should not attend. Even though we do not have the absence of gun control the US has, I would not put it past someone to seek to harm the Duke and/or Duchess of Sussex. Never mind the booing that no doubt would occur from some.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/01/2023 15:29

I don't think Charles and William (along with the rest of the RF) should do anything. It's too soon, too raw. IF they decide to sit round and talk then I think they should wait for the dust to settle - may even take a few years. I had this one of my brothers following a major fall out. It was almost ten before we buried our differences.

ProperVexed · 15/01/2023 15:34

Continue to ignore / grey rock.
( or task the SAS to deal)

LimeCheesecake · 15/01/2023 15:38

The problem with saying they should continue their dignified silence, is that pretty much everyone knows the “sources close to the palace/senior royals” are briefings from Charles and William’s teams. They are not staying silent - but they should be!

how many stories have been fed to the press in the last week? They need to stop and let it all die down.

EpicChaos · 15/01/2023 15:39

They should issue a cease and desist plus an injunction!

Myotherpetisamouse · 15/01/2023 15:41

According to the Toddler Taming book, if the audience leaves the building the performance will escalate for a little then end. They should do exactly as they are doing and ignore.

LimeCheesecake · 15/01/2023 15:46

also If I was Catherine, I’d be forcing my DH to engage with plans to avoid history repeating itself - Margaret, Andrew, to a lesser extent Edward and now Harry - the “spare” has always been built up as “the fun one” by the press, until they decide they are actually pathetic for playing up to this and turn on them.

Louis will be the firing line all too soon - he’s already had normal preschooler behaviour being compared to his much older brothers better behaviour as a sign that Louis is the naughty one and George is the sensible one- rather than putting their different behaviour down to age.

the narrative of George being the good (dutiful) son and Louis the wild child is already starting.

SunbathingDragon · 15/01/2023 15:49

The Battle of the Windsors - winner gets the crown and lower ends up in the Tower of London.

Or, to be more grown up and dignified, they should just carry on ignoring Harry. It’s clearly infuriating him beyond belief and he can’t bear that no matter how much harder he stamps his stroppy foot, he isn’t getting attention.

Given how horrendous the Royal Family are (according to Harry), why does Harry want to reconcile? Surely he is blissfully happy without them in his life and has no need* for them.

*££££ excluded

momtoboys · 15/01/2023 15:50

I am no longer a big Harry fan but I think the family is doing the right thing. Freeze them out. Keep silent. The lack of attention says it all. Maybe down the road bygones can be bygones but not any time soon.

dapsnotplimsolls · 15/01/2023 15:50

They should continue to ignore them, invite them to the Coronation and, if they do turn up, stay silent in their presence. If they do decide to have a meeting, both sides should record it and both sides should sign a legally-binding agreement that nothing discussed will be leaked/made public.

Summersolargirl · 15/01/2023 15:51

I think there is a pull between monarchy and family here.

for the family Charles will want to reconcile with his son. For the monarchy the public will not accept harry and Meghan and it will over shadow everything.

I support the monarchy but I think if I see harry and Meghan at royal events or on the balcony I’d cease to do so and think it’s all a farce and we should just end the monarchy immediately.

I think accepting harry and Meghan back will make a laughing stock of the monarchy and it will likely end it. Public pushback will be too extreme.

so personally I think Charles needs to pick between son or the future of the monarchy, harry and Meghan have gone too far now. It can’t be come back from for the uk and global audience

VioletLemon · 15/01/2023 15:54

They can do nothing. Damned either way and all that. H can never be trusted again to keep private conversations out of media so all they can do is set up a trust fund or similar for the H&M children and go NC. Send gifts for birthdays, Christmas with love & communicate in no other way. H needs to complete his 'truth journey' then do some silent reflection. His RF relationships are likely totally over.

JuliaDomna · 15/01/2023 16:01

I think they need to involve a qualified and experience mediator. I used to be a Restorative Justice mediator and these techniques can be very useful. But both sides need to really listen and acknowledge any hurt they have caused.

I don't think it is necessarily a case where one side is totally right the other wrong. Humans are complex and memories unreliable. People remember or see the same thing differently. The difficulty will be if Harry tries to impose his version on her s family.