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What should Charles and William do?

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FunsTheWord · 15/01/2023 12:49

Where can the royal family go from here? What do you think Charles, Camilla, Kate and William should do?

Can they trust the Sussexes ever again? Probably not.

Where do the family go from here and how do they get there? Can this situation be resolved where everyone is happy or at least content?

Lots of people are very angry with Harry now but how do they and those who are Harry fans want the King to handle this?

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Lunde · 15/01/2023 13:56

I think they should do nothing, Harry is obviously desperate to get a response from him and even seems to cross the line of bringing William's kids into play

Anything they say to him will just be used as content for Book 2. How can there be any trust?

Harry has now "told his truth" - multiple times on Oprah, Spare, interviews etc - now it is time for him live the life he chose without moneterizing his family

Phos · 15/01/2023 13:56

Prescottdanni123 · 15/01/2023 13:53

If I was Kate, the comment about Charlotte abd Louis would be the final straw for me. I wouldn't stop William from reconnecting with his brother if that's what he wanted, but H and M would be having no unsupervised contact with the kids, and any mail would be checked first as well.

H&M are too self centred to bother with their niece and nephews (of whom Markle is jealous anyway)

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/01/2023 13:57

Annoyingwurringnoise · 15/01/2023 13:27

Exactly what they are doing now, which is nothing. Just because somebody has a tantrum and stamps their feet to get your attention, doesn’t mean you have to give it to them.

This. They are keeping schtum and not provoking the situation. And after all PH's said about his family, why would they want to reconcile, let alone trust him ever again. I'd stick religiously to the 'recollections may vary.' At some point I reckon some of this friends are going to come out with their stories if he pushes this enough.

Highfivemum · 15/01/2023 13:58

Nothing. Keep their dignity and rise above it. No one ever should air their dirty washing in public. I would be worried that whatever I said now he would write a book on it. They need to just carry on doing their duties. He will come back soon enough and if he doesn’t it is no real loss. He is in a bad place and needs help from professionals now.

skyeisthelimit · 15/01/2023 13:59

Harry needs to removed from the line so that he can't end up King should anything happen to the Wales' . They need to relinquish any titles and just let it go , stop their deluded claims and move on with their lives.

If they do have talks then they need to treat it like a divorce and get independent unbiased mediators in to assist the conversations. Harry wants people from "his side" but they don't seem to have given him very good advice so far, and from his point of view he won't trust anyone from the palace side.

If H&M did come back into royal life at any point in the future, then H needs to make sure that M is given all the advice and help that she needs to be part of the royal family, and to not scoff at the traditions etc because he didn't make a very good job of it before.

I honestly don't see how anyone will forgive them for this though after all the various comments, or how anyone in the RF would ever trust them again

iCouldSleepForAYear · 15/01/2023 14:01

If they want to maintain the monarchy, they could focus on using their wealth and influence to have a greater, more positive effect on the lives of the public.

Grants to support school programmes that couldn't otherwise be offered in a climate of tightening budgets.

Grants to support libraries.

Grants to support nature conservation.

Council housing reform campaigns and grants to support humane conditions, so that no one poor enough to need council housing has to move into a property that has no cooker, no refrigerator, no freezer, no washing machine and no flooring.

And while they're at it, they can quit meddling with legislation and creating exceptions to the law that favour them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2023 14:02

The problem is it is not what H&M did so much as how they did it

Exactly - and nothing so far suggests they intend to do it any other way

So silence really seems the only option, and frankly it's a relief from them, just as it would be from Harry if only he could manage it

TenoringBehind · 15/01/2023 14:07

Nothing at all.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2023 14:09

My sad opinion is that it really does not matter what they do. He’s not going to stop manufacturing ways that he is a victim. They can’t just give in every time. He believes his stories, even while admitting he has memory issues. I believe it’s all drug related and you just can’t fix that, in my experience. Even once people stop doing drugs they don’t necessarily lose the errors in thinking that caused them to seek drugs in the first place.

I think we had a small clue Harry said William didn’t want him to give a speech at his wedding. Suspect they have been keeping Harry’s mental health issues under wraps for a very long time, but lost the ability to protect him from himself when he left with Meghan. I don’t blame her but I think she has been like gasoline on a fire.

StaunchMomma · 15/01/2023 14:10

Fuck off, hopefully!!

It's all just so pointless now The Queen has gone. All of the pomp & ceremony just seems ridiculously old fashioned.

I don't think it's helped by Charles never really being very popular with the public.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2023 14:11

Who could they find that Harry trusts now? Tyler Perry? He does not appear to be in contact with his old friends.

Sugarfree23 · 15/01/2023 14:12

iCouldSleepForAYear · 15/01/2023 14:01

If they want to maintain the monarchy, they could focus on using their wealth and influence to have a greater, more positive effect on the lives of the public.

Grants to support school programmes that couldn't otherwise be offered in a climate of tightening budgets.

Grants to support libraries.

Grants to support nature conservation.

Council housing reform campaigns and grants to support humane conditions, so that no one poor enough to need council housing has to move into a property that has no cooker, no refrigerator, no freezer, no washing machine and no flooring.

And while they're at it, they can quit meddling with legislation and creating exceptions to the law that favour them.

Not sure where you think the money will come from for private grants. The sovereign grant is to support the monarchy.

However they do do lots of things to support people, Princes Trust, Duke of Edinburgh Awards, there is a scheme to provide playing fields set up by King George. Plus being patrons of thousands of charities, I say thousands I think PP was patron of about 500 alone!

NowDoYouBelieveMe · 15/01/2023 14:13

A duel with Harry and Megan.

Winner gets the throne.

notanotheroneagain · 15/01/2023 14:14

They must stop briefing against Harry and Meghan.

Simples.

And while that will mean some kind of irrelevance for them in the UK media. They must also accept that they will remain big time in the US and worldwide. And that H&M have a big following who will still carry on spreading the word about their work etc.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 15/01/2023 14:14

Keep their gobs shut and be thankful they don't have to worry about their gas bills.

Cherry60 · 15/01/2023 14:18

notanotheroneagain · 15/01/2023 14:14

They must stop briefing against Harry and Meghan.

Simples.

And while that will mean some kind of irrelevance for them in the UK media. They must also accept that they will remain big time in the US and worldwide. And that H&M have a big following who will still carry on spreading the word about their work etc.

But that isn't going to stop H attacking them.

GloomyDarkness · 15/01/2023 14:20

Keep calm and carry on.

Chances are with coronation popularity will go up as it usually does with Royal events.

I personally don't think popularity is why we keep the royals - I think it's more a system that has has spent 1000 years evolving and is a bit of a tangled mess with surprisingly large amount of checks and balances in there. It's apparently legally murky who owns what the family, the crown as an entity and the state. I think it's a mess everyone dreams of reforming till they look into it and realise all systems have downsides. I think there would have to have some serious political mandate to reform and then no one would want to be blamed for a worse system or a better system with odd downsides.

Family wise until Harry changes his public stance I think there's been so much nastiness directed at the family - it would be very hard to come back from though not impossible and that would take serious time and who knows how much they dealt with prior to all this.

Vitriolinsanity · 15/01/2023 14:20

If H had done any of his truth telling without trousering millions it might be easier to swallow.

If H had read any family history though what he would know is that the RF will circle the wagons around the monarchy and keep schtum.

He and M are inconsequential in the greater scheme of things. None of those criticised have a right of reply. Tagging the kids is just not on.

Maybe their will be hope of reconciliation in the future, but given the comments that there's more for another tedious time I'd be handling them with a whip and chair for now.

LlynTegid · 15/01/2023 14:21

I am supportive of what appears to be silence from the King and the Prince of Wales.

diamondpony80 · 15/01/2023 14:22

They're stuck between a rock and a hard place really. The trust is broken, so no matter what they do now their relationships will never be the same again. Now that Harry's got started he'll keep on with this while there's money to be made and the public are willing to listen.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/01/2023 14:22

What can the RF do? Even if they wanted to clear the air/have a reconciliation, at this point H is showing that he can't be trusted to keep things 'in the family' if he doesn't like what they say and/or can make money off it. In the RF's place I wouldn't be having any 'family meetings' any time soon and I'd be doing just what they are doing, holding my head up and getting on with things.

Also, I've often found that people who insist on others acknowledging their 'faults' and apologizing (without acknowledging their own) usually have an ulterior reason for demanding they do so and they often then drag up the past to get their way in the future. I haven't heard H say "Well, there were changes needed on both sides". H & M aren't faultless in any of this mess, no matter how hard they want to appear so.

GoingtotheWinchester · 15/01/2023 14:23

Abdicate and go and get a job?

GloomyDarkness · 15/01/2023 14:26

If H had read any family history though what he would know is that the RF will circle the wagons around the monarchy and keep schtum.

He doesn't seem to know his own personal history so I image that's passed him by as you say.

He also seems blissfully unaware of previous problems the family have faced and got passed.

UWhatNow · 15/01/2023 14:30

Iamthewombat · 15/01/2023 13:06

Surely we should be asking Paul Burrell’s view on this. As a noted rock, and expert on how QE2 liked teacups to be arranged, he must surely be the oracle in matters of royal strategy. Where is Burrell in this debate?

Harry claimed that Paul Burrell
“had penned a tell-all which actually told nothing," he said. "It was merely one man's self-justifying, self-centring version of events.”

Which is ironic.

Backfor2022 · 15/01/2023 14:38

What they do to resolve their private family business is up to them.

What decisions are made about the monarchy, the coronation, Harry’s titles, his place in the line of succession, etc. are a matter of public interest and so the public’s voice should be heard. It may be that the majority do not want Harry to attend, and ruin by his presence, the coronation for the whole country.
Decisions about his titles should not be made by the family but by the government.
He has those titles because we have a monarchy and I think the country has a right to express an opinion about whether we want him to continue to hold those titles, given all that he has said and the fact he has no intention of living here again.

He’s clearly bullying his family and threatening them with more revelations in a second book. If he’s welcomed back after this, what message does that send to the country? You can get what you want by humiliating others? Two wrongs make a right?

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