What should Charles and William do?

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Where can the royal family go from here? What do you think Charles, Camilla, Kate and William should do?

Can they trust the Sussexes ever again? Probably not.

Where do the family go from here and how do they get there? Can this situation be resolved where everyone is happy or at least content?

Lots of people are very angry with Harry now but how do they and those who are Harry fans want the King to handle this?

Oh god no!!! He'd end up joining MN and being one of those posters who post a zillion threads about being 'done wrong' by their families. Threads where the majority of the responses are "You (or this) again? We've told you every time to just go NC and have done with it".

They should say as little as possible for public consumption, preferably nothing.
They can try to reconcile as a family but not as an institution. No asking him back, no future role, he should not attend future royal official events, but family events (e.g. walking to the church at Christmas is a family event) are ok.

Are you meaning to say abolish?
Abdicate just means it skips to the next in line

I suspect a lot of these anti Harry threads are stated by the same poster who is just name changing. Sick of the shit stirring.

This is funny. Kate clearly wants it more than life itself, she would win!

They should talk to Harry 1-1 and sort this shit storm out sincere apologies on all sides need to be given and recieved

Neither want to in practice though, as neither side trusts the other not to spill it.

Harry thinks they’ll leak it to the papers, and they think he’ll talk about it in an interview, or put it in another book.

I think it’s too raw to talk about it now anyway, they’ve clearly tried and it’s not worked.

They have fundamentally differing views on what occurred it seems, and I think it’s gone too far now to ‘agree to disagree’

I can’t see how the RF can have “talks” with Harry, or apologize for wrongs he believes they’ve inflicted on him or Meghan. Any non-disclosure agreement would be broken if Harry could make more money off breaking it than sticking to it. He can’t be trusted to be discrete so how could they have any kind of talks? Ideally, with a mediator, they could if they were an ordinary family. But then again, some family members are best having distance from. Even if they did mediate it would only be to stop both sides “briefing” against the other. There’s zero chance of a close relationship happening, happy family times together can’t be a possibility after all this.

I'm failing to see how the RF have treated H&M badly, other than to tell them NO to their plan for a half-in, half-out contribution. They threw a big strop and flounced off to the USA, which by all accounts, they'd been planning since before the wedding.

Let things blow over, don’t invite them to the coronation, wait for them to grow up. Eventually their kids are going to wanna meet Grandpa King.

Invite them to the coronation, sit them at the back with non working royals, blitz them with small talk, keep them away from the Cambridge children and appoint someone like Mike Tindall to be their Minder and with them at all times.

For a start, have one press office, whose job is to represent the whole family - no leaking of stories to make some members look more positive than others. This seems to me like a legitimate complaint of Harry's. They rf need to be more concerned with the family element and less hung up on protocol and positive PR for some at the expense of others.

Then I'd suggest total silence - no getting into a public toy for tat. Invite H&M to the coronation. If they attend, be kind and polite. Give them no ammunition.
I'd also advise titles for the kids when they reach adulthood if my job was to advise C and W. It's not the children's fault their parents have shat the bed. They are the grandchildren of the monarch and I believe this means they get titles in normal circumstances?

If the RF are to make a statement they need to remind everyone of this.

But I think grey rocking is the better option. I’d have nothing to do with Harry in public or in private.

In time as a family, they may eventually reconcile, but once trust is gone, it will take a long time for it to be restored.
Harry does not want to be a working royal, and as such there is no role for him at state occassions.
In his book, he states he is not religious, so there would be no need for him ever to walk to church with the RF, as he wouldn't be going.
The Queen refused their half in and half out idea, because you cannot monetise the RF while also representing the Crown at State functions.
To me, the mistake the RF made was the various tours, soon after the marriage.
Maybe in future all spouses will have to sign NDAs, but then what about the actual family members?

Sounds good to me.

The Royal Family exist to take the heat off of controversial political stories. Occasionally, though, the narrative flips and the Government of the day need to distract the press and the public from the Royals, as happened in 1997 in the aftermath of Diana's death.

Today, Rishi Sunak faces his Tony Blair moment. He requires a really big story to divert the British public and the world, something just as riveting and controversial and divisive and all-encompassing as the controversy over whether the Duke and Duchess of Sussex should be allowed. There's no way around it, Sunak is going to have to bite the bullet and announce that he has started the accession process to rejoin the EU.

That [Charles & William abdicating] would mean a child on the throne - how is that in anyone's interest.

You just need a regent until the heir comes of age. I can't promise anything, but there have been persistent rumours that David Miliband might become available.

No one wants to hear it, but the solution to the Duke of Sussex needing to monetise the RF is simple: just pay for his security for life, globally, as is done from former prime ministers. Crowdfund it if you have to; I bet Tyler Perry would contribute. And Monica from Friends. The only other viable option is for him to join the Witness Protection Program like Mummy.

I think with the racism issue, they're trying to argue something like the discussion over royal titles wasn't consciously related to race, but the couple felt like their children were being treated differently from the other grandchildren, and somewhere in there was the race issue. Although, what Oprah didn't ask them was, did they confront anybody about this? They seem to have had a number of confrontations about much more minor issues, why did they not tackle this head on?

Also, when questioned, Harry confirmed again that there were 'concerns' about how dark the children might be. Even without the titles issue, isn't this rather racist? As the interviewer suggested, wouldn't that fit most people's definition of racism? How these concerns could be both expressed and unconscious I don't quite follow. The interviewer seemed a bit baffled at that point and didn't question him any further.

Never wrestle with a pig.

You both end up covered in shit.

But the pig loves it.

I see that the Royal Family in the form of Clarence House / Buckingham Palace / Charles & Camilla are back to their old tricks of using 'friends' and 'dinner party guests' to act as 'sources' to talk to the press.

It's like they can't help themselves. All they had to do was maintain a dignified silence, and keeping reaping the wave of sympathy. But no.

Harry is appalling (IMO) but he is a product of this backstabbing, 'kite-flying', media-obsessed, cowardly, entitled, weird culture where the inherent traits of human nature are channelled very poorly towards self-defensive meanness and terminal redundancy.

A jousting match between Willy and Harold.

Kate and Camilla wave Meghan indoors at Buckingham palace. They tell her that she should be Queen and Meghan starts preening like a Peacock as she is led to a magnificent throne where she sits down expecting to be crowned but instead the chair turns round and she’s facing an audience with her sister Samantha in the front row, laughing and smiling and Noel Edmunds steps out and Meghan gets gunged.

Charles' friends aren't that much help to him! I thought that before the whole Harry thing blew up. Every time they try to convince you that Diana was just mad and none of that was Charles or Camilla's fault, it just makes him look worse - especially now Diana isn't around to put her side of the story. Better to just let time pass and the public accept that marriages can go very wrong, and bring out the worst in both parties.

That Petronella woman might mean well, but she has the strangest mannerisms and is far too defensive - lovely as I'm sure all these people she mixes with are, they do sometimes make mistakes - like asking someone where they 'really' come from. What's shocking about the Royal Family (Harry and Meghan included) is how bad and amateurish their PR is!

Absolutely nothing.

You don't feed a raging narc, the only way to manage them is to cut off the oxygen.

Accept Harry has gone too far, and he hasn't finished yet. Brace for the next book, it is coming regardless of a successful reconciliation or not. This is the only job Harry has now, the currency is anger and hate and selling his family down the river.

Stand back and leave Harry to get paid to blow up his life, when the inevitable breakdown happens leave the door ajar.

Top of the list they should have an internal enquiry about the alleged racism within the institution and get an independent judge to run it. And publish the results.

They should stop all the negative briefings about H & M by the favoured journalists and friends of the RF which are still happening right now but very few people seem to realise or care.

Form a new modern press office with decent PR staff who work for the entire family. Put an end to separate offices briefing against one another.

Pay a professional mediator and invite Harry and Meghan to private talks under the condition that they remain private and let everyone sort out their various grievances. Put out a joint statement once everything resolved.

Give Harry and his dc a proper title and role abroad as befitting brother of the future king.

All appear at the Coronation together

^^ The above is the non Republican version but personally I would like to see the whole shebang abolished. Do we really want an institution that embeds privilege at the heart of our society and holds up extreme wealth and hierarchy centred around one family as something that is desirable? It also encourages the country and its leaders to constantly look back towards tradition all of the time when we should be moving forward.

For the psychological well-being of the individuals themselves, just let it all go and move on. We can still have splendid military parades and national celebrations without them.

You can already start to see the strain on poor young George’s face. Whenever we see a picture of him and his siblings on the news it is usually a framed shot with voiceover sound. And the other day I saw a clip with a wide angle and full sound and it was really shocking. The three children were literally facing a barrage of press and the noise of the cameras was deafening. Up close you could see the flashes reflected on their faces.

Do we really want those dc growing up as tabloid fodder facing a lifetime of gossip and intrusion? Hopefully someone will see sense and we can all move on.

I read in the DM today (yeah, well) that Charles wants to do nothing and William is spitting feathers.

I can truly understand this. I had a very nasty sibling (probably 100 threads-worth). They were a difficult child and grew up to be angry, vindictive and a worrying liar. However, dm had tunnel vision and her one goal in life was to make sibling happy. Dm would never, ever challenge her or defend me. Didn’t do any good.