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What should Charles and William do?

214 replies

FunsTheWord · 15/01/2023 12:49

Where can the royal family go from here? What do you think Charles, Camilla, Kate and William should do?

Can they trust the Sussexes ever again? Probably not.

Where do the family go from here and how do they get there? Can this situation be resolved where everyone is happy or at least content?

Lots of people are very angry with Harry now but how do they and those who are Harry fans want the King to handle this?

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flabbygoldfish · 15/01/2023 18:54

AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/01/2023 18:48

Harry had an argument with his brother
Harry's dad was a bit aloof at times
Harry wasn't keen on his dad's choice of partner
Harry's family weren't that keen on his new partner
Harry's family may or may not have been a little bit racist
Harry had to live in the dump that was Nottingham Cottage
Harry once had to go cloths shopping in an high street shop for plebs
Sometimes Harry's servants would park their car in front of his bedroom window
One of the matrons at Harry's school wasn't sexy enough

Anything else?

You forgot the 'handbags at dawn' tussle which resulted in a broken necklace, dog bowl, Meghan feeling sad and a session with the therapist.

ThighMistress · 15/01/2023 18:59

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 - you see, there you go again with the binary “royalist” dismissal of anyone not sharing your view. It’s not that simple. Here we have a man - Harry - with a lot of grievances. Some I believe are valid, but the behaviour that he himself has described in his book is often far from edifying. Are you really, truly in accord with anything this pampered prince does or has done?

spanieleyes · 15/01/2023 19:00

And the issue with the smaller bedrooms, definitely needs an apology for that! ( Not bitter that , as the youngest by only 11 months, I always had the smaller bedroom, no indeed!)

AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/01/2023 19:05

Nearly everything that Harry complains about is not unique to either him or the Royal Family. He should spend a bit of time reading the relationships board on Mumsnet!

OhmygodDont · 15/01/2023 19:32

Maybe a simple we are sorry Harry that you were born for the trouble of which this life has clearly been to too. We wish you all the best in the future for yourself and your family.

I jest but the whole problem does seem to be that he was even born.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2023 19:33

The briefings and the royal family - press relationship have to change, Harry has a point there, the only point in my view

Very much agree with this; it's not much use the palace complaining when "their" stories are leaked all the time, but then neither do Harry's complaints have any credibility when he's doing exactly the same - although he's not so much leaking them as blasting them all over the place

The trouble with trust is that, once gone, it's not easy to get back, and even if they tried a private reconciliation it would stop folk claiming they "know" what went on (and that includes plenty on here)

Rightly or wrongly the palace will always prioritise the institution, and I do worry that if Harry doesn't stop soon they could easily unload whatever real dirt they have on him and his wife - which they probably wouldn't enjoy

Dobby123456 · 15/01/2023 19:39

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2023 19:33

The briefings and the royal family - press relationship have to change, Harry has a point there, the only point in my view

Very much agree with this; it's not much use the palace complaining when "their" stories are leaked all the time, but then neither do Harry's complaints have any credibility when he's doing exactly the same - although he's not so much leaking them as blasting them all over the place

The trouble with trust is that, once gone, it's not easy to get back, and even if they tried a private reconciliation it would stop folk claiming they "know" what went on (and that includes plenty on here)

Rightly or wrongly the palace will always prioritise the institution, and I do worry that if Harry doesn't stop soon they could easily unload whatever real dirt they have on him and his wife - which they probably wouldn't enjoy

Do they really have any dirt, though? Meghan wasn't around for very long. 'Some of the staff found her difficult to get along with' is just gossip, not real dirt (rather like the bridesmaid story). On the other hand, Harry has 38 years of dirt on the Royal family. They definitely have the advantage there.

AliceOlive · 15/01/2023 19:40

flabbygoldfish · 15/01/2023 18:54

You forgot the 'handbags at dawn' tussle which resulted in a broken necklace, dog bowl, Meghan feeling sad and a session with the therapist.

Also, the part about his Todger, his brother’s and Elizabeth Arden.

OhmygodDont · 15/01/2023 19:41

They also have all those years of dirt on Harry. If he was how he Turkey is today back then the royal family will of done a lot of covering up for him. That nazi outfit and the naked drinking us trip along with choice words for poc friends will be the tip of the iceberg.

OhmygodDont · 15/01/2023 19:41

Random Turkey 🦃

NeuroWasabi · 15/01/2023 19:48

I think they should do some soul searching and some therapy individually and together. A loved member of their family has said that the family environment is so toxic that he didn't want to be part of it anymore. That has to be a wake up call.

They should sit down and discuss what's happened like the adults they're supposed to be. They should try to have some empathy for Harry and his situation, and understand why he did as he did. They might not agree, but he has valid reasons and considered it carefully for a long time beforehand. He tried to contact them to talk and was ignored. They should apologise and try to make amends. They may also have non public complaints which should be heard. I'm sure Harry and Megan aren't blameless either.

The first step is disengaging from the toxic press. Agreeing to present a united front in future and having regular meetings about concerns, where everyone is listened to and taken seriously. It would be difficult for any family to live like they do, under constant scrutiny, but they seem to rely on the toxic games they play to manage things, with betrayal to the press the means of keeping some people in check and hiding the flaws of others. It's all disgusting...that's not a family IMO. It's more like a reality TV show and more recently a tacky talk show.

That not to say Harry is to blame for exposing the situation. I'm sure a lot of people close to it know exactly what goes on, like any place of business has its BS which is hidden from the client, but as an ignorant member of the public I had no idea of his business/family life and am glad he exposed it.

Anonymouseposter · 15/01/2023 19:53

They should continue as they are. If they could trust him to keep it private they could see a family therapist with him but clearly they can't trust him to deal with it privately and anything said would be made public in a distorted form. It's their private business though and I don't think they require advice from randomers.

Havehope21 · 15/01/2023 19:54

Leak the bullying report perhaps?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2023 19:55

Harry has 38 years of dirt on the Royal family. They definitely have the advantage there

But as I said elsewhere, after the endless ... errr ... "inaccuracies" he's spouted and what that's done to his credibility he'd need to have the proof, and so far that seems to be lacking in his accounts

Though I detest how the RF use their influence it doesn't change the point that Harry's going against a very skilled outfit, and though I obviously can't know what they've got on him they will, as mentioned, put themselves first in all things

bakalava · 15/01/2023 20:00

Do they really have any dirt, though? Meghan wasn't around for very long.

😀Oh yes they have - including pre-Harry.

StatisticallyChallenged · 15/01/2023 20:06

Dobby123456 · 15/01/2023 19:39

Do they really have any dirt, though? Meghan wasn't around for very long. 'Some of the staff found her difficult to get along with' is just gossip, not real dirt (rather like the bridesmaid story). On the other hand, Harry has 38 years of dirt on the Royal family. They definitely have the advantage there.

This depends very much on how much of the rumoured bad behaviour is true (from all sides!)

Hard to know if it's "would you like cheese with that whine" level, or "would you like some medical treatment to follow the thrown tea".

There's wild rumours about all parties. Who knows what's real

GloomyDarkness · 15/01/2023 20:07

donquixotedelamancha · 15/01/2023 18:45

What should Charles and William do?

Abdicate.

That would mean a child on the throne - how is that in anyone's interest.

If you think Harry would be tolerate - if some how all three children ahead of him in succession were taken out of the running - I can't see politicians trusting loose lips himself with any red boxes full of potentially sensitive information.

If there's no political or popular support for monarch we have got rid of monarchs many times - and also gone monarch shopping - Glorious Revolution and then the 1701 act of succession which ignored loads of claimants and put the House of Hanover on the throne - during the Prince John debacle we invited the french Dauphin to be our king.

Ignore Charles children and their heirs and next is Prince Andrew who is clearly a big problem.

I don't think there enough political or popular appetite for the major overall doing with a monarch entirely would entail - at least not yet - we might get there but it won't be Harry antics that get us there - they might help us along the way but it will be some big political constitutional crisis and time that causes that.

Cherry60 · 15/01/2023 20:11

Boulshired · 15/01/2023 18:43

I do also think that Harry also needs to address what he needs to do next. He and his children are surrounded by other famous/rich/influential neighbours who will value their privacy. I can see them being treated very suspiciously in the future especially if the threats of do as I say or there will be another book.

Absolutely! If PH is willing to sell his own family out for money he could do it to anyone.

MissTrip82 · 15/01/2023 20:21

bakalava · 15/01/2023 15:06

I believe her jealousy and vanity was at the heart of why she upped sticks. She felt jealous that Kate came from a happy, close nuclear family and had genuine close friends with kids of similar age. Prince George is a truly gorgeous child and she thought that he would always put her own child in the shade.

Surely you realise this is all fantasy? You don’t know these people at all. You’ve made this up.

It concerns me that such disordered thinking is occurring. These people are strangers to you. This is a story you’ve invented. I can’t imagine what has motivated you to do so.

StartupRepair · 15/01/2023 20:22

Ironically all the arguments about the impossibility of reconciliation - lack of trust, press leaks and continued demands for money are the exact reasons given as to why Harry and Meghan can't reconcile with her father.
Harry has completely become Thomas Markle. Fascinating.

bakalava · 15/01/2023 20:25

MissTrip82 · 15/01/2023 20:21

Surely you realise this is all fantasy? You don’t know these people at all. You’ve made this up.

It concerns me that such disordered thinking is occurring. These people are strangers to you. This is a story you’ve invented. I can’t imagine what has motivated you to do so.

Oh, oh did I massively trigger you there? Stop frothing at the mouth and consider that you clearly know nothing about other posters and nothing about psychology. You sound nuts. 😄

donquixotedelamancha · 15/01/2023 20:26

That would mean a child on the throne - how is that in anyone's interest.

He should abdicate too.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/01/2023 20:29

There's wild rumours about all parties. Who knows what's real

Well, I doubt any of us do - unless some have thoroughly reliable sources they're not disclosing - but I'm pretty darned sure the professionals will

After all, keeping tabs in order to protect their principals is part of what they're paid for

NeuroWasabi · 15/01/2023 21:01

@MissTrip82 Some people seem to have made their minds up (eg. That Megan is an evil witch) and will twist reality into knots to support that narrative. I agree, it's bizarre.

CathyorClaire · 15/01/2023 21:12

Harry has 38 years of dirt on the Royal family.

And despite the twirling and teasers has so far spilled very little of substance.

I'd back Andrew's muck bucket beating Harold's into a dog bowl any day.