Just finished 'Spare'...

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… and I encourage anyone who’s even vaguely interested in this story to give it a read. Especially if what’s been leaked has made you at all angry, because I think in context everything makes a lot of sense.

I wasn’t a Harry and Meghan hater before reading this, but I wasn’t a fan girl either. Like many Brits, I find a lot of Americans- especially West Coast Americans- quite irritating and Meghan firmly falls into that camp for me. I’m sure she’s nice enough, but she’s very American and very perky and much like Wednesday Addams, I don’t do perky. However, I suspect that her intentions and generally good and that like most of us she’s got good and bad qualities. She’s clearly ambitious and I think that she probably initially dated Harry based on that ambition and on getting a platform, although I think that she genuinely loves him now.

The ghost writer has done a great job at capturing Harry’s personality I think; he comes across as introspective and thoughtful but funny and bright.

I think that Harry has a good soul; I think that he’s kind and has had a hard time of it growing up. I also think he’s a bit clueless and naive and has been in a bubble, but I think he acknowledges that and wants to understand and change. Undoubtedly losing his mother at the age he was had more of an outward impact on him than it had on William. He’s also been a victim of his dad’s wishywashy parenting. It sounds like- and looks like to me from my vantage point as a normal citizen who knows bugger all except what I’ve seen in the media- that Charles has been there for his kids to an extent, but not in a hands on or especially useful way. It also seems clear that Charles has always put Camilla first. From almost the moment Diana died it seems that he wanted, above everything else, to rehabilitate Camilla’s image so that they could marry. I think that he put that above being a father and the way Harry writes about their relationship makes that clear too.

I also think that it’s suited the palace to portray Harry as dimwitted and feckless to show William in a better light and that Harry has every right to be angry about that and not want to play that game anymore (and to call it out now). Especially as it’s obvious that the palace haven’t kept up their side of the bargain and protected Harry from the media in return.

I also think that the media have treated H and M poorly and it’s clearly the case that the palace has used them and news stories about them to divert from other newsworthy problems… certainly Prince Andrew, perhaps William’s affair/s. Is Harry overly jumpy about the media and the paparazzi in particular? Yes, of course. Who wouldn’t be with his background. But they’ve also obviously been hounded and harassed.

I do think that Harry is on a journey that he isn’t at the end of yet, but I think that he realises that too. I think that he was always going to leave the royal family and that Meghan didn’t cause what’s happened, she was just the catalyst for it. I think that he’s been scapegoated and an afterthought within his nuclear family and I don’t blame him for being angry. I think that he means well and is essentially good. And I don’t think that anyone who’s read the whole book would be able to disagree.

More than anything I think it’s clear that the British Royal Family is no longer fit for purpose; the way they live, bring up their children, pay their members for work and demand unrealistic levels of protocol and formality is no longer working in the 21st century. These people need purpose and lives beyond the crown and those on the edges of the heir shouldn’t have to live their lives in service of the their. Realistically H and M could have worked as royals and had private interests, the RF chose not to bend to help them live fulfilling lives because of its own, outdated reasons.

No I can’t and I need hypocritical obsessed monarchists to explain the difference.

My post said that you’re an apologist for Harry, as usual, using his own habitual defence - everything is someone else’s fault. If he hadn’t written the chess piece section of his book it couldn’t be used out of context, could it?

Have you actually read the book, or watched the Netflix programme?

@Mirabai i am as far removed from a monarchist as possible. I’m Irish for a start. Not sure how I’m a hypocrite. Anyway the context the difference is killing a British prince is a much bigger hit as such than someone no one has heard of. But you already know that. Harry is always banging on about security, who do you think he needs protection from? Don’t embarrass yourself by saying paps:

And all of it’s bollocks. I’m a Republican who thinks the monarchy should be ended. I don’t give a fuck about Harry, but find the squealing around him and Meghan from the “deranged” entertaining. And hypocritical.

It’s almost as if the monarchy isn’t a good idea, isn’t it?

From himself and from the deranged obsessives. The obsession with the monarchy in this country is toxic and everyone needs to grow up and move on from it.

@Mirabai from himself? A married man kicking 40 with two children? Sounds like this guy has big problems if he needs an armed chaperone to make sure he doesn’t harm himself. Wonder if deranged obsessives could be someone seeking to avenge his foolish comments re the war in Afghanistan 🧐 I think harry would have mentioned all the deranged obsessives trying to get to him in the book if he had time to talk about his penis so much

I think you think a lot of things and I couldn’t be bothered to read to the end if your ‘I think’ post.

I think they are all entitled twats and we should be rid of them all - and washing your dirty drawers in public is never a good look.

It’s doing the rounds free in WhatsApp

I was referring to the “deranged” - obsessed with Meghan and him, like you and @Blossomtoes fixating on everything they say and do.

From himself - I simply meant he has no filter.

@Mirabai LOL you must be just as ‘obsessed’ then !!! Don’t think Harry’s bodyguards need to be worried about me targeting him 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s bizarre you cannot accept the man is at risk from more serious threats than people idly posting on the internet.

Normally I have no interest in him but he’s kind of made it impossible to look away for the last few days. A bit like a car crash. It’s your mate, Roussette, who’s fixated on them. And you spend a huge amount of time defending him for someone who isn’t obsessed.

@Mirabai bodyguards only protect your physical safety, they can’t protect people from their own stupidity

😂

I’m not actually British, though have lived here for 20 years. It’s encouraging to see how many people on this thread are daring to support H&M. I’m on the fence to be honest, not invested enough with way….but I find it absolutely terrifying how Rupert Murdoch’s crew are rabble rousing against them. They’ve been printing the stories for years, we’ve all seen them - Kate “cradles her bump”, Meghan “weirdly touches her bump” etc.

I think there are both sides of the story, and the truth is somewhere in between. But all the Daily Fail readers, please drop your pitchforks, it’s just awful 😔

Amusing as your misinterpretation of pretty much every post you read is - Harry didn’t leave the U.K. to escape the Taliban.

@Blossomtoes Apparently you think your obsession with the monarchy and Meghan has escaped the entire forum. You are sadly mistaken.

You must have me confused with someone else I’m afraid. What you have said makes no sense in relation to me or anything I have said

Whatever you say, dear.

Ach give it up love, you embarrassed yourself then and you’re embarrassing yourself now

That might have been because it wasn’t plain English. Nobody got the point.

Couldn’t have said it better myself !

You got there in the end but it took a very long time.