Will Harry go to the Coronation

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Not sure. He was asked this at the interview. He didnt give an answer either way.I got the impression he wanted an apology first or at least a discussion on his grievances. Charles has said he is invited. But several papers yesterday had articles saying he will be invited but is expected not to come. Can't really expect all this news and people not to wonder.

I also read if he goes he won't have an active role. It's usual for all the Dukes to kneel before the new monarch and swear loyalty but only William will be doing this apparently.

Who cares.

There's only two choices - invite them (and hope they don't turn up) or don't invite them. The latter would be the least damaging, if they do turn up it will create loads more dramatic fodder for him to sell.

Also, there'll be all the stuff about his security again and through his own actions he's massively increased the risk, and therefore the cost.

You, apparently.

They'll invite him.

Would be churlish or impolite or not proper not to invite him. He is the King's son. Not some random nephew three times removed.

I suspect he'll go too. Despite saying he struggles with his family/firm conflict of interests.

If he chooses not to go, that's his decision.

Either way, he should be invited.

Under normal circumstances it would seem improper etc but these are far from normal - he's personally attacked his family and made serious allegations, plus as I said he'll be looking to make more trouble to profit off. Still, you're right it would be less shocking to invite him and try to do whatever possible to prevent him attending.

I don't think they'll prevent him from attending, but will put him "at the back" with Andrew and the like. .

I'm sure it will be reported by Harry in whatever way he wants regardless. He'll have some sort of slight, imagined or otherwise, and will report negatively. No doubt answering "why did you go then" with a response of "I'm a better person and wanted to make the first move, but they insisted in serving salmon at dinner the night before when everyone knows Meg doesn't like salmon all that much and prefers Trout." or whatever.

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It's different with Andrew because there's no incentive for him to make any trouble with Charles than he's already in. Harry is/was a much loved son and the reputational damage to the RF has been significant so the urge to find some reconciliation will be strong and could easily cause further damage when H uses it for another round of interviews books etc

I think in many ways the Coronation ceremony itself will be easy to navigate. It’s all formal and will be set out and lots of “X and Y stand here, A, B and C process to here, then X and Y move there.” Carriage processions and the likes will be formal and quiet.

The problem will be any dinners or receptions...

I don’t imagine the Crown Prince and Princesses of Norway and Denmark, or Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden are particularly going to be keen on making small talk with them. Equally though it will be expected that the entire British royal family will attend events like that.

It’s going to be a tricky one. I expect lots of banal chat about the weather, travel and children’s milestones would be discussed.

That’s not how I see it. The reputational damage has been to Harry. There are so many lies in the book that most people will never believe anything he says again. His father might want reconciliation but his love for his wife and older son, as well as duty to the institution, preludes that. I hope Harry enjoyed the warmth and light from the burning bridges because they’re almost impossible to rebuild.

No, I really don't think he should.

His recent book is a direct personal attack on the King and his heir. That's not something which can be shrugged off. It is a Coronation, a celebration of the same 'institution' Harry and his wife are making a career of criticising. Not to mention that his stupid 'chessboard' comments make him a security risk.

Having said that, given that he is the king's son and a royal duke, protocol may require him to be invited. But I don't believe there is any sort of moral imperative for him to be invited. He really has no business being there given his recent behaviour.

Very true

And wasn't it the case that the Sussexes weren't at the formal receptions at the time of ER II's funeral?

I thought the reason given was that they are not working Royals, and of course that might be the entirety of it (and it keeps the Duke of York out of it too).

But their predilection for publishing (unreliable) memoirs could be a contributing factor too.

This is nuts.

I think he will be invited, the royals will take the high ground. Whether he and the wife turn up is another matter. I think they would be roundly, and justly, unwelcome by the public. I don’t think either of them are welcome after his ongoing behaviour.

Personally I’d quite like to see them turn up and be deafeningly booed.

Yes, the formal receptions for other royals were working royals only.

They could do the same for the Coronation, enough other tweaks and adaptions are being made.

It is a shame though as it will mean that a lot of the more minor royals who would normally be a part of receptions like that will miss out again through no fault of their own.

I also have a feeling that Andrew will have Covid around the coronation.

A deal will be struck that means he gets a bit of income from his brother privately and in return he’ll be out of the way.

He whinges and moans but he does seem to realise that if you want the cash you need to keep the boss sweet

If the Harkles do attend, there will have to be special provision for them: a place where they are tucked in at the end of a row, a few rows back and a handy piece of heraldry to obscure the gurning. Think ornate candelabra.

a few rows back,

What we really need is person with unfeasibly large ceremonial headgear right in the way of all camera angles to Andrew

Frankly I couldn’t care less about this wasteful and uninteresting couple. They have nothing at all of interest about them apart from their attachment to the royal family, which they apparently consistently think is a trial. Yes it’s the only thing that makes them newsworthy and bankable. Who on earth would be interested in the pair of whiners if it wasn’t for the royal connection? Don’t all shout at once!

Yes
He's desperate to maintain his royal association in public as without that he has nothing

I think they will both go. Agree with pp they need new material for forthcoming books and interviews. It is their bread and butter.

Crabo · Yesterday 17:39
Frankly I couldn’t care less about this wasteful and uninteresting couple. They have nothing at all of interest about them apart from their attachment to the royal family, which they apparently consistently think is a trial. Yes it’s the only thing that makes them newsworthy and bankable. Who on earth would be interested in the pair of whiners if it wasn’t for the royal connection? Don’t all shout at once!

Well....you, obviously, for one...

The question is - is it true she is negotiating the tiara and little Archie's birthday mention somewhat 😅

Just imagine - either I can wear this tiara or I am not coming !

There won’t be tiara negotiation. Her wedding tiara will be viewed as hers for events where it’s needed going forward.

The only debatable one re tiaras imo will be Kate and if she wears one she’s worn before or gets an upgrade due to the title upgrade.

If they go I think it will be the last time they are seen with the RF for years. I can’t think of any other event which might require their attendance. I’m just wondering if Eugenie and Beatrice have had their children christened. If they did, I assume it was a private event and the Harkles didn’t go.