Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Best Prince Harry Interview so far by GMA

264 replies

ttcstop · 09/01/2023 20:34

Some serious questions were at last asked by the interviewer - he did a better job in ten minutes than any other has done in 90, but Harry is so brainwashed he somehow manages to bat them away? He really cannot see any wrongdoing on his part.

I am buying the book because I'm seriously interested to hear these 'examples' of leaks.

OP posts:
Swissmountains · 10/01/2023 08:43

The Royal Family itself is just the latest incarnation of a brutal tradition saturated with head-chopping and madness, their only "human" contact being the upper classes with their casual cruelty and blatant depravity

They are people with feelings for heavens sake!
Trying to do a job, represent our country - continue our traditions.

It was hundreds of years ago when the last person had their 'head chopped off'!!!! Grin

Chocolateyshakes · 10/01/2023 08:47

The whole thing is like a posh soap opera.

Dobby123456 · 10/01/2023 08:54

I was on their side basically until they started talking.It was that statement they put out about their 'mission to spread compassion around the world' that first mad me go 'huh?'

chaosmaker · 10/01/2023 09:01

Can we get rid of them all yet?

Weonlyhavealoanofit · 10/01/2023 09:10

I think Harry is quite dim and easily manipulated but with an underlying arrogance and sense of entitlement. His early years were enormously privileged but he suffered a very great loss when his mother died, and her funeral/absence clearly had an awful impact on him. He was a mixed up teenager and dabbled in drugs and drinking excessively. His father struggled to influence him, [I think Charles is almost intimidated by his sons] and there was the added complication of his de facto step mother being ‘the other woman’. He joined the Army and loved that life, but couldn’t progress because of his poor academic record. None of his girlfriends wanted to marry him and his role was to be ‘the spare’ until of course his brother had children of his own. So what went wrong?
Im not sure that Harry ever reconciled to being ‘the spare’. It seems that Diana particularly, wanted the boys to be treated as equals, with hindsight that was an unrealistic aspiration given their positions within an hereditary monarchy. They are also rather different personalities, William appears to be the brighter and more emotionally mature. Harry attending Eton seems to have equipped him for very little, he would have been far better off in a less academic and less elitist environment. So by the time he met Meghan [at which stage William was married and had children] Harry was a rather aimless privileged bloke who knew that on some level his currency was in decline. I think that Meghan’s ambitions and his frustrations were in perfect sync. She ‘rescued him’ and she became the natural successor to Diana’s title of Queen of Hearts.
Of course its all bunkum but not in their world. They wanted their own ‘brand’, that was never going to happen. They wanted to be taken as equals to W&C and that was never going to happen, and they wanted to make a lot of money, and that was never going to happen under the umbrella of the RF. Now the Sussex’s are engaged in a retrospective and its always someone else’s fault. They are the victims of a conspiracy. A conspiracy to deny them their rightful place in the world order of super heroes. They are under threat from dark forces whose sole aim is to harm and destroy them….have you heard the number of times Harry talks about his ‘security’ and the need to ‘keep my family safe’. At times its delusional. Its all very Hollywood, as are the faux charity projects. Diana wasn't a saint, but she had a genuine sympathy with the poor and marginalised and she did alot of plain old fashioned hospital visits and the like, out of a genuine desire to help people. I don't sense that the Sussex’s ever saw their future as visiting an old folks home in Stafford followed by a hospice in Wigan. I think they have exploited Diana’s unhappinesses and have adopted them as their own. The talk of self harm, of feeling unappreciated, of feeling on the outside and vulnerable.
Had the Sussex’s been allowed all that they asked for, they would be hosting their own weekly tv show, monetising their brand endlessly, constantly in the public eye and talking about world peace, inner beauty and climate change, all the while being protected by the British tax payer and flitting in and out of the RF for all the ‘big events’, always by private jet, courtesy of their celebrity chums. The deal they thought they could make was to have a separate and rival court. I think a window on what they really wanted and how they thought they would live, was the baby shower in New York. That was their dream life, being a superstar and having the best of everything. Making the truly famous their intimates and NBF. Talking to Presidents and world leaders, about subjects which do not really interest them, about which they have limited personal experience but sound good.
Harry wont be reconciling with his family, I doubt that he and M whilst they remain married will budge an inch. Of course some of the things they have encountered in the press are vile, Clarkson being a recent example, a disgusting misogynistic oaf playing to the gallery. Yes the press are out of control in this country, but M &H are not really concerned with the press per se but in controlling what is written about them. They don't want to be anonymous and left alone given that the only way to achieve anonymity would be to live quietly doing unglamorous work, living within their means. If M and H were really concerned with a more just society, a fairer society, why are they not tackling wealth inequality? Why did they choose a very public wedding, where no expense was spared [when according to Meghan, they had secretly married 3 days earlier in the garden with the Archbishop of Canterbury]? Why are they demanding titles for their children? Why are they choosing to live in one of the most privileged places on earth, surrounded by the richest of the rich and constantly moaning about their own financial difficulties? Why aren’t they campaigning for the billionaire class to pay a fairer share of taxes, or for darling Pa to pay inheritance tax and the end of off shore tax avoidance devices, the majority of which are affiliated in some form or other to Britain? Why does he love washing his subjective dirty linen in public and then talk of betrayal and a need for love and tolerance?
Does H even understand that his critics have a point?

rumship · 10/01/2023 09:13

It is startling to watch. Like a toddler waddling across the M25 at rush hour.

😂True true.....

Orangefir · 10/01/2023 09:19

@Weonlyhavealoanofit

You nailed it. Someone should write a book analysing from these angles instead of endless royal gossip

On your point about Diana raising them as equals, I honestly believe this is where his entitlement stems from. Not understanding he doesn’t have the same status as his brother in terms of the family business, seems to be the root of the problem

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 09:24

The content all of these interviews makes me think Harry believes that there will soon be some sort of redemption arc which culminates in the Royal family (his father and William) admitting their 'mistakes', apologising to the two of them, Harry and Meghan graciously and publicly accepting this apology - and then after much consideration agreeing (for the sake of the nation and as a matter of public service) to take on the role of the Royal Family overseas, masters of the Commonwealth or some such. The people of the world will rejoice and take inspiration at the Mandela like way Harry and Meghan have managed to create unity where there was once division and mistrust.

Thats the narrative he keeps going back to. It is very sad, as in my view he seems to genuinely believe what he is saying. I can't help but think he has been convinced this will happen.

He glosses over the level of spite in the book, as though he can't conceive how much it will hurt his family.

I can't see the Royal Family doing anything but continue to ice them out.

Swissmountains · 10/01/2023 09:26

The content all of these interviews makes me think Harry believes that there will soon be some sort of redemption arc which culminates in the Royal family (his father and William) admitting their 'mistakes', apologising to the two of them

It is so deluded, I agree. Who on earth in their right mind would think that releasing a book that is so spiteful and wounding is going to lead to 'enlightenment and reconciliation'? It just beggars belief.

Iamwhatiam52 · 10/01/2023 09:32

Puppyseahorse · 09/01/2023 21:52

Oh Lord. It actually was all about the bridesmaid dresses story!!

I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but… as he rightly points out, to react as he has to a story about BRIDESMAID DRESSES is beyond petty.

From what I can gather, his issue revolves around the 'bridesmaid dress story' because something got leaked to the press that Meghan made Kate cry. If you are to believe Harry, this isn't true and it was Kate who made Meghan cry and he found Meghan 'sobbing on the floor' so he then contacted the necessary department in the 'institution' to ensure a similar PR stunt was issued to say that 'No, it was Kate who made Meghan cry not the other way round' but he had no support with that from anyone and I think that is what he is highlighting - the fact that the Royal PR dept can issue all kinds of shit on Meghan but nothing similar can be done to Kate or that they would refuse to put the situation right i.e. in Meghan's favour.

That's how I read it anyway.

Yeah it is petty that it revolves around that particular story but I think he's trying to highlight that it's the principle of Meghan being slated in the media when it was Kate who allegedly caused the issue. 😑

Pr1mr0se · 10/01/2023 09:36

Minimalme - Absolutely. He does have a therapist apparently. Hopefully he's on speed-dial.

MrsTag · 10/01/2023 09:43

Swissmountains · 10/01/2023 09:26

The content all of these interviews makes me think Harry believes that there will soon be some sort of redemption arc which culminates in the Royal family (his father and William) admitting their 'mistakes', apologising to the two of them

It is so deluded, I agree. Who on earth in their right mind would think that releasing a book that is so spiteful and wounding is going to lead to 'enlightenment and reconciliation'? It just beggars belief.

This is what most people with common sense would think about him . I also think he genuinely believes his own tales and for some reason he should be exempt from "life" and the things that happen in life which are not always good! Everyone has shit in their life but somehow he has ended up thinking he is exempt.

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 09:44

I had heard that the therapist is sitting with Harry off camera for all of these interviews.

Everanewbie · 10/01/2023 09:49

From what I saw I think that Harry is a very traumatised and troubled man. I know that he has unimaginable privilege and wealth and that many people's sympathies will lie elsewhere, but I really feel for him. That doesn't mean that I believe his account 100%, I'm not sure I do.

I wish him love and happiness and hope that he can find peace.

Wheresthebeach · 10/01/2023 09:58

Dobby123456 · 10/01/2023 08:54

I was on their side basically until they started talking.It was that statement they put out about their 'mission to spread compassion around the world' that first mad me go 'huh?'

That's hilarious coming from Harry - where's the compassion for his family? He's violated their privacy in the most determined way. Obviously I have no idea if Charles sleeps with a teddy due to childhood bullying, but for his son to share that is unforgivable.

Wheresthebeach · 10/01/2023 09:59

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 09:44

I had heard that the therapist is sitting with Harry off camera for all of these interviews.

Rasputin?

Orangefir · 10/01/2023 10:03

Wheresthebeach · 10/01/2023 09:59

Rasputin?

😂

Orangefir · 10/01/2023 10:06

At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if it was David Icke giving him guidance and support

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 10:10

It is the callous details that surprises me, around William's baldness, the way he states William's resemblance to Diana is fading, his father's admission he was bullied at school and carried a teddy bear.

When Anderson Cooper brought up the comments about William, Harry smirked. This is where he loses complete credibility to me. If this was about the 'truth' and 'his story' why include detail intended to hurt and humiliate.

Dobby123456 · 10/01/2023 10:15

MrsTag · 10/01/2023 09:43

This is what most people with common sense would think about him . I also think he genuinely believes his own tales and for some reason he should be exempt from "life" and the things that happen in life which are not always good! Everyone has shit in their life but somehow he has ended up thinking he is exempt.

The problem with therapy is that there's a danger that you can get caught up in it and start acting like you've joined some kind of weird religious cult. You think you've seen the light, that this is going to fix all your problems and make sense of your life, and you become a kind of evangelist for therapy thinking everybody in your family and friendship circle should also go for therapy and acknowledge 'the truth'. Luckily, I had friends who cared about me enough to tell me to get a grip. Harry doesn't seem to have this, or doesn't have the sense to listen to them.

purpledalmation · 10/01/2023 10:33

You won't get any true examples of leaks, because they are not leaking anything. They're communicating with the press about legitimate events.

purpledalmation · 10/01/2023 10:41

@steff13 Exactly. Why would Camilla brief her communications (press) office with stories that were detrimental to Harry? How does that make her look better? If she was trying to rehabilitate her image, why is that wrong? She was the affair partner of Charles for many years, so that's quite some hurdle to overcome. She was also in an unhappy marriage, so was Charles and they were in love for many years. Not ideal, but it's a common enough situation.

Harry never, ever gives real examples.

Wheresthebeach · 10/01/2023 11:06

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 10:10

It is the callous details that surprises me, around William's baldness, the way he states William's resemblance to Diana is fading, his father's admission he was bullied at school and carried a teddy bear.

When Anderson Cooper brought up the comments about William, Harry smirked. This is where he loses complete credibility to me. If this was about the 'truth' and 'his story' why include detail intended to hurt and humiliate.

Exactly. This is no longer about Harry and Meighan's journey or desire to live another type of life. This is spite.

Fizbosshoes · 10/01/2023 11:14

I have sympathy with both of them (and to a degree any of the RF - despite all the luxury and privilege, they live in a goldfish bowl with every outfit, look, weight loss/gain, behaviour analysed)
Harry has had his behaviour and life scrutinised from birth, and he and William had to grieve the sudden, and tragic loss of their mother in the most public of settings. And that would have been massively traumatic for both.
Whatever her awareness or protestations, Meghan did voluntarily enter that goldfish bowl.

I completely understand that he felt in a way, trapped, wanted a different more normal life and potentially not really knowing how or where to escape to.

I can see writing a book might seem cathartic.

I can't see how sharing very intimate, private moments between family, arguments, fights, snubs or ill treatment (actual or perceived) both in the book, and then repeatedly in interviews, equates to being open, ready, forgiving and up for reconciliation. Those things to me don't compute.

I think he seems incredibly unhappy and angry (although he says otherwise) and unfortunately for him, the main antagonists (the press) still seem to have the upper hand. All the leaks, book spoilers, interviews etc provide hundreds of pages of material to further analyse. He's on the front of virtually every paper.

4thtimeunlucky · 10/01/2023 11:17

VolcanicAshStorm · 10/01/2023 09:44

I had heard that the therapist is sitting with Harry off camera for all of these interviews.

I hope they do refunds...😳