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Best Prince Harry Interview so far by GMA

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ttcstop · 09/01/2023 20:34

Some serious questions were at last asked by the interviewer - he did a better job in ten minutes than any other has done in 90, but Harry is so brainwashed he somehow manages to bat them away? He really cannot see any wrongdoing on his part.

I am buying the book because I'm seriously interested to hear these 'examples' of leaks.

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bakalava · 13/01/2023 19:27

I think he is under pressure to make more and more (and more!) money so he is scattergunning by trying to provide something for every identifiable fan base. He wants to appeal to serious campaigners but also promote his own slapstick comedy. Comedy is harder to nail than conventional soap acting. It is arrogant of him to try to break into a field oversaturated by talented people. It explains the background juggling in those earlier videos.🤔
The desperation to sell themselves in any way for money to finance an A lister lifestyle beyond their means will be the only enduring recollection.

Ridemeginger · 13/01/2023 20:05

Oh god, you can tell he has zero sense of humour. He takes himself altogether too seriously and has no sense of irony or of the absurdity of his own life.

The thing is, no matter how much they need to sell out to afford to keep in with the Montecito jet set, ultimately he wants to be loved and appreciated by his family - and, I believe, the British public. It's just not going to happen thanks to his own self destructive, self loathing behaviour. I don't think he will ever fill the hole. I think his life may well be a wealthy one, but it will be an empty one.

Dobby123456 · 14/01/2023 19:37

Ridemeginger · 13/01/2023 19:00

I know, I don't understand it either. Was thinking today, he'd have so much material to write about his feelings about his mum's death, time in the army etc, in a really sensitive and helpful way to others going through the same. I gather the ghostwriter really is a beautiful writer, and between them, they could have come up with something authentic and important, and even if it didn't paint him in the greatest light or have all the answers, it could highlight the importance of talking about these things and working through your feelings to find your best life. Instead, it seems to be a bitter, vindictive and puerile tome that does nothing to promote therapy or encourage moving on to a better place. And he can't move on because he is still stuck trying to rescue/recapture/embody Diana.

It was the wrong time for him to publish a memoir. If I was advising him, I would have said 'give yourself time to be with your young family and time for reflection'. All this 'we have a mission to spread compassion around the world' and 'it's my life's work to save my family' are big red flags to me. Any therapist worth their salt would have said 'Hold on there! You're trying to fix the whole world? You can't do that. The only person you can change is yourself'. That's, like, lesson 1 of any therapist I've ever spoken to.

Ridemeginger · 14/01/2023 19:56

Yes I agree. The people who usually want to "fix the world" are cult leaders. I think his thinking is cult-like.

MonsoonMadness · 14/01/2023 22:57

If his security is costing 6 million a year as he was quoted, he needs anLOT of money to keep their lifestyle going. She wears very expensive clothes (ironic as he says he doesn’t care about clothes). They apparently have a mortgage, run expensive cars and take private jets. They have a massive house to run with lots of overheads and staff. They need a vast income coming in every year for that. The money from Netflix and the book won’t last all that long after tax.

trucklebrunch · 14/01/2023 23:19

She won't be paying for any of her clothes - designer brands will be queuing up to clothe her for free.

The location for two of the interviews, and a previous photo shoot for Meghan was well publicised - presumably also gifted in exchange for free advertising .

Wealthy celebrity friends have also be gifting private jets etc.

Perhaps this generosity and goodwill from others will begin to dry up if their popularity starts to decline.

With added threat to their safety the pressure to protect his family must be mounting - essentially Harry doesn't have any skills to offer in order to make a decent living, he has backed himself into a corner and Huw selling RF drama is all he is good for.

I feel a sequel will be out soon, he's already making threats in the interview with the telegraph, if his mental health doesn't unravel before that.

LBFseBrom · 17/01/2023 00:18

We mustn't forget that Meghan is a wealthy woman in her own right. Not as rich as Harry who inherited a fortune from his mother but still she was worth approximately $5m before she got with Harry and has been making a fair bit in America with various projects. They will certainly have quite a few investments too.

They seem very happy together, long may it continue.

MonsoonMadness · 17/01/2023 06:46

How do you know what financial situation Meghanneas in prior to Harry? Do you know what she was earning, what her overheads were and what she was paying in tax? It’s all guesswork.

Magnoliasunrise · 17/01/2023 06:56

Ridemeginger · 13/01/2023 19:00

I know, I don't understand it either. Was thinking today, he'd have so much material to write about his feelings about his mum's death, time in the army etc, in a really sensitive and helpful way to others going through the same. I gather the ghostwriter really is a beautiful writer, and between them, they could have come up with something authentic and important, and even if it didn't paint him in the greatest light or have all the answers, it could highlight the importance of talking about these things and working through your feelings to find your best life. Instead, it seems to be a bitter, vindictive and puerile tome that does nothing to promote therapy or encourage moving on to a better place. And he can't move on because he is still stuck trying to rescue/recapture/embody Diana.

I totally agree and beautifully put.

Dobby123456 · 17/01/2023 10:58

Magnoliasunrise · 17/01/2023 06:56

I totally agree and beautifully put.

Thw whole needing to recsue Diana thing is definitely a problem. People have blamed the move on Meghan (Megxit). But, in her defence, is your husband kept telling you how dangerous the media was and that you were going to end up dead like his mother, would you want to stick around?

trucklebrunch · 17/01/2023 11:17

Over the user few weeks I have changed my view on Meghan entirely - I thinks she's a bit forceful in her ambition, possible could have treaded a bit lighter.

But I really feel Harry has let her down, throwing tantrums and being filled with rage, he's obviously not at all stable - and if she was looking to him for guidance on how to handle his family and the media she would've been given no sensible advice - his paranoia further alienated her from his family right when she was getting to know them.

I also think his recent interviews have dropped her in it a free times, I'm sure she's not enjoying seeing her husband making a laughing stock of himself.

bakalava · 17/01/2023 11:20

$2.5m was from her divorce to Engleson, I know that for sure.
She only had about $1m net from Suits and a few minor endorsements.
It's not huge.
If she walked out today, she would be looking at many times more than that. She's done well, financially.

BasiliskStare · 17/01/2023 18:59

If I am honest I think M thought H was a great catch. I think she knew who he was and misinterpreted what her role would be. I think she underestimated just how Harry would turn out. I don't know either of them but Harry sounds entitled ( well OK he literally is titled 😀 ) I do think though that just trading on the RF is going too far now . Some senior military people and some of his peers have questioned his judgment . If ( never mind the RF ) he has put others in the military in danger for speakinghis truth - well shame on him .

mixedrecycling · 17/01/2023 19:09

I agree that M didn't have realistic expectations about marrying H... they didn't give it enough time to clarify the details, they wanted to 'hit the ground running'. A recipe for disaster.

MyNameisMathilda · 17/01/2023 19:47

mixedrecycling · 17/01/2023 19:09

I agree that M didn't have realistic expectations about marrying H... they didn't give it enough time to clarify the details, they wanted to 'hit the ground running'. A recipe for disaster.

Yes I recall that phrase. Too true!

AcrossthePond55 · 17/01/2023 20:50

mixedrecycling · 17/01/2023 19:09

I agree that M didn't have realistic expectations about marrying H... they didn't give it enough time to clarify the details, they wanted to 'hit the ground running'. A recipe for disaster.

Kinda makes you wonder who was in the big rush.

Did H not want M to have the time to see how restricted her life would be in the RF? That she would not be allowed to pursue her career nor be the 'mover and shaker' she thought she could be to 'modernize' the RF and 'effect change' in the World?

Or did M want to rush into it to 'snag' H before he realized that she was more interested in his position and wealth and what it might do for her?

Or a little of both. We'll never know.

Morestrangethings · 17/01/2023 21:00

AcrossthePond55 · 17/01/2023 20:50

Kinda makes you wonder who was in the big rush.

Did H not want M to have the time to see how restricted her life would be in the RF? That she would not be allowed to pursue her career nor be the 'mover and shaker' she thought she could be to 'modernize' the RF and 'effect change' in the World?

Or did M want to rush into it to 'snag' H before he realized that she was more interested in his position and wealth and what it might do for her?

Or a little of both. We'll never know.

Or neither.

Dobby123456 · 18/01/2023 13:26

AcrossthePond55 · 17/01/2023 20:50

Kinda makes you wonder who was in the big rush.

Did H not want M to have the time to see how restricted her life would be in the RF? That she would not be allowed to pursue her career nor be the 'mover and shaker' she thought she could be to 'modernize' the RF and 'effect change' in the World?

Or did M want to rush into it to 'snag' H before he realized that she was more interested in his position and wealth and what it might do for her?

Or a little of both. We'll never know.

From their own version of events (Netflix series), Harry wanted her to know as little as possible because previous girlfriends had been scared off. To the point that he invited this woman he hardly knew to share a tent with him in the middle of nowhere in Africa! He didn't explain anything much about his family - telling her last minute that she would need to curtsey when she met his grandmother. At first she thought he was joking - that's how little he'd explained who he was and how things work.

In practically every interview they do she's very keen to tell everyone how little she knew or understood going into the situation. That might go down well in America, I'm not sure Brits are so accepting that this was a mature attitude shown by either of them.

workshy46 · 18/01/2023 14:02

She was mid 30's and already divorced so hardly an innocent ingenue
That being said I think she was woefully unprepared for just how mundane and restrictive royal life would be. It his however laughable to expect people to believe she never googled harry or the Roya Family. I suspect she thought it would be Gala's and balcony appearances and he didn't disavow her of that belief because he thought she would run. I don't think she would have as from everything we have read it appears fame was always her main goal and she has that in spades now. It is well documented that she reached out to various journalists to write and mention her in the papers.
I also think she thought it would be v easy to morph into the new Diana and when that didn't happen or didn't look like it was going to happen, that is when the wheels came off.
She has paid a high price for it as harry seems now like a miserable dud. He does adore her but has can someone as smart as her be satisfied with him.. longterm once the sheen of his crown has worn off ....

AcrossthePond55 · 18/01/2023 15:07

Dobby123456 · 18/01/2023 13:26

From their own version of events (Netflix series), Harry wanted her to know as little as possible because previous girlfriends had been scared off. To the point that he invited this woman he hardly knew to share a tent with him in the middle of nowhere in Africa! He didn't explain anything much about his family - telling her last minute that she would need to curtsey when she met his grandmother. At first she thought he was joking - that's how little he'd explained who he was and how things work.

In practically every interview they do she's very keen to tell everyone how little she knew or understood going into the situation. That might go down well in America, I'm not sure Brits are so accepting that this was a mature attitude shown by either of them.

It's obvious that I'm NOT a big fan of H&M, but if that is so, I wouldn't call it immaturity, I'd call Harry not telling her about what to expect as absolutely deceptive. I'd put it on par with not mentioning that you have, oh, 8 children or so.

I consider myself to have a 'basic' education 'royal protocol' so I would have known about the curtsey, order of precedence + a bit more. BUT, and again I'm not a Meghan fan, we're also told that as Americans royal protocol doesn't apply to us. We can curtsey if we choose to, but it is not required nor expected. So as far as 'general ignorance', I might buy that it that someone might think the curtsey was 'optional'. BUT, she's not stupid nor naive and I don't believe for a moment that she thought it was optional in her situation. And I don't believe for one second she didn't 'know' who Harry was. Give me a break! She may not have known much about the RF but I don't believe she didn't Google extensively once they'd had a couple of dates.

Personally, I think Harry did 'lie by omission' and that shows someone who is completely selfish and without a lot of principles. I think he's spoilt and used to getting his own way. But I also think Meghan's "I didn't know" about who Harry was, about the RF in general, or about protocol is pure bullshit. She knew. I just think she thought "Well, I won't be doing that, they're going to have to deal with me as I am". They both thought 'our way or the highway' only to find out that 'The Institution' had all the power.

I think they both have a bad case of 'sour grapes' and are throwing the nastiest tantrum that's been seen in a long long time. Even Edward & Wallis behaved with more dignity than those two. I feel for Archie & Lili when they get older and read about all this crap. This isn't the 1960s where you only learnt what your parents told you about 'family squabbles'. This is all going to be 'out there' for them to see on the internet.

Magnoliasunrise · 18/01/2023 15:13

abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Culture/meghan-markle-wanted-princess-diana-20-childhood-friend/story?id=54172226

not sure if you can access this link but is abc article from 2018 in which references are made to interviews with Meghans childhood friend who says she was obsessed with the royal family and wanted to be the next Diana, was crying at the televised funeral etc so she can't possibly have not known who Harry was.

MonsoonMadness · 18/01/2023 16:58

She’s not a woman who listens or takes advice. She just does what she wants . It wouldn’t have made any difference.

Farmageddon · 18/01/2023 20:02

trucklebrunch · 17/01/2023 11:17

Over the user few weeks I have changed my view on Meghan entirely - I thinks she's a bit forceful in her ambition, possible could have treaded a bit lighter.

But I really feel Harry has let her down, throwing tantrums and being filled with rage, he's obviously not at all stable - and if she was looking to him for guidance on how to handle his family and the media she would've been given no sensible advice - his paranoia further alienated her from his family right when she was getting to know them.

I also think his recent interviews have dropped her in it a free times, I'm sure she's not enjoying seeing her husband making a laughing stock of himself.

I agree, my view of her has changed a bit. At first I thought she was pushing a lot of this stuff, as it seemed such a departure from how Harry was portrayed.

But now I think he has serious issues, and is the one fuelling much of the paranoia and lashing out. He was the one who has first hand knowledge of how 'the Firm' is and what is expected. He doesn't seem to have informed her properly of expectations and limitations, and just seems stuck emotionally and lacking maturity.

Or maybe they are both damaged people who have sort of brought out the worst in each other. Although they claim to be the happiest people ever and ever Amen. Maybe they are, I just hope they find some healing from all this.

Or is he really just going to rehash all his personal gripes for the next few years??

Ridemeginger · 18/01/2023 22:28

Petronella Wyatt, on the Spectator's Youtube channel, is saying she has it on good authority that the staff bullying was mainly done by Harry, not Meghan.

MonsoonMadness · 18/01/2023 23:19

Ridemeginger · 18/01/2023 22:28

Petronella Wyatt, on the Spectator's Youtube channel, is saying she has it on good authority that the staff bullying was mainly done by Harry, not Meghan.

If that were true, why did William get angry about how M was treating staff? Reportedly Kate too.