Has anyone ever met Megan?

[MsMiaWallace]

Out of curiosity as many people are airing views about her. But what is she actually like in the flesh?
I'm not a fan at all but she comes across as lovely when interviewed

Well, I certainly didn't read the original request for links as rude, and I found the linguistics stuff interesting. I have no doubt you'll continue to be rude and snarky though since you obviously enjoy it.

AND OUR PSYCHES HAVE BEEN SO BADLY DESIGNED BY OUR GIVENCHY PARENTS THAT EVEN WITH MANY HOURS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TAILORING, THERE ARE STILL FLAWS.

BUT EVEN WITH FLAWS, WE ARE BEAUTIFUL AND FLOWER GIRLS FROM HEAVEN

It's the grit that makes the pearl and the flaw that makes the diamond after all. They Were Created to Unite Everything in the Universe. Why be King and Queen of England when you can be King and Queen of Everything - aim high boys and girls and keep taking the pills.

And with the diamond and pearls of your discontent, you too can wear a tiara folks.

You know what, despite being a really pleasant person and incredibly well mannered, I do enjoy a bit of snark from time to time, especially when I have someone ‘educating’ me that using please is actually rude and someone else telling me off like a naughty school girl for pointing out that is utter nonsense. Hope the matriarching goes well

Yeah, after reading all the comments, watching various things, reading various things, listening to various things (I've listened to her podcast Archetypes a couple of times too) from both 'sides', I'm going with she's a good person at heart, nice, kind, same with him but definitely with some issues to work through in therapy, probably was a tosser growing up and his 20s (as so many young men are, but especially ones with unresolved trauma/weird-ass upbringings and lifestyle), plus they've both got a sense of humour. For some reason, I really place value on that!

But then I think the RF in general is weird AF. It's such a bizarre institution in these times, everything from the curtseying (honestly, even being a Brit, I would've been shocked if someone had told me I had to curtsey to his grandma! I figured that was just if you wanted to... and for the public!), to the needing to be in the press in order to continue, to the not being able to support causes deemed to be too controversial, to not being able to nip to the shops to buy something or go down the pub... honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to stick with it. Seems like an awful way to live. Good luck to them both and their kids. Hope they get to live a happy US life, where people are way less judgy than in the UK. (I've lived in both countries.)

You know what, despite being a really pleasant person and incredibly well mannered

Ever heard of 'show, don't tell'?

I bet the linguists have. And if they haven't, there's Google

Thanks mum

Well, as my last word on this, I'd usually expect a lecture about manners to be delivered in a polite way. It rather undermines the message if it isn't! The links provided were just to show common use and opinion among ordinary people. Textbooks are not needed for this. Glad someone was interested!😂

tomato's

As it happens we do.
All the guests had to walk past the cameras and the world’s media in order to get into St. George’s Chapel, so it was easy to see who was and was not there.

A handy list has been compiled here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wedding_guests_of_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Markleon Wikipedia. You’ll see that the bride only had one family member present and maybe ten “long term” non-celeb friends. Out of a total of 600 guests.

That is very weird for someone in her late thirties and even more so because they seem to have had very few mutual friends to invite (not counting celebs they hardly knew).

It looks like what happens when somebody decides to reinvent themselves as a more
important person and anyone who doesn’t fit the image gets pretty ruthlessly dropped.

@Bluekerfuffle

He was most certainly a fan ! That's the problem! By all accounts he was hugely blown away by her and then she snubbed him and here we are

Undaunted: with what was happening to her at that time I'm not surprised she was overly cautious as to who she invited.

@GreensAreGoodForYou

Re sense of humour,yes! I think you are onto something there.
They both have a more relaxed easy style and comment's they made to each other really made me chuckle on the netflix thing.

One in particular where she is quickly planning an Easter egg hunt route and he says " see...this is why I got married" and she says " really? Just this? " In a rye tone...and he stammers"it's the organisation " in an army sort of way.
Something really tickled me about it.

I've noticed in life and it's perculiar that other people don't like to see people having fun or able to be light hearted. ..I've seen it on here so many times when someone is having a light hearted thread and the joy sucker's come into drag it down

Not sure if you think I gave you a lecture on manners but mine was two lines, one of which was on topic and a joke, or an attempt at one anyway. It was meant in a light hearted way and I assumed the pun and wink would show that.

Stop bloody deflecting and justifying. You don’t need to bring into what other people elsewhere in the world think. All you needed to do was say sorry and explain how you find it ruder to add a please. No need for links.

It’s clear from your comment that [I] “didn’t know you were a linguist” that you thought saying you were a linguist would shame me and whoever agreed into being wrong. Bit silly that.

I wasn't trying to shame you in any way at all with that comment - that's your own misinterpretation entirely.

And no, I'm not going to apologise for not having been rude in any way at all. I asked a simple question in a way that most people regard as perfectly polite and you, appearing to know very little about either language or manners, very rudely tried to shame me for it. I then posted examples because you asked me for further information (without saying please). You've now just tried to shame me for posting these examples saying there was no need and I was justifying and deflecting (although I can't see anything wrong with justifying when I've been asked to do so, directly or indirectly). Someone else who's studied language (including the language required to communicate politeness) then came on and pointed out I was right (feel free to ask Mumsnet to check this was not me posting with another username). So no, absolutely no apology required. And I won't engage further until you've improved your own manners to the point that you're in a position to criticise those of other people.

Oh fgs are you still banging this bloody drum. No person outside your academic niche thinks it is rude to append ‘please’ to a request in the common parlance of most English speaking countries. I ignored your last tedious comment. Do not feel the need to reply to this. If you want to discuss it further feel free to contact your non sock puppet PhD pal.

Most people don’t “regard“ that way of asking as “perfectly polite”; that was my point.

And no I’m not going to ask MNHQ if the other poster is not you posting with another username. Waste of time. Savvy sock puppets on MN use different devices and probably VPNs to get away with it.

@DandyCan it was me who agreed with @meinteresamucho. I have been on MN for about 15 years and am not a sock puppet.

I know it was you @JustWhattheDoctorOrdered

But with respect, that doesn’t mean anything. You haven’t had this name for 15 years; you’ve barely had it for over fifteen days. You’re anon and possibly a frequent name-changer, which is fine. I’m the same. But it means you aren’t a known MN quantity.

But even if you were the most well known MN-er, my point remains that s/o saying you can check with MNHQ that I’m not a sock puppet means Jack sprat. Because - and I was told this by MNers - it’s apparently pretty easy these days to run several accounts simultaneously.

@DandyCan I am a frequent name changer but I have always used the same details and email address, which MN could confirm. But why on earth would anyone go to the trouble of doing that? It was an incredibly small point that @meinteresamucho made and that I agreed with her. Just a little language quirk. I don’t know why on earth you are still going in about it.

I’m not very well informed about many things, but I do know about language. @DandyCan I am sure there are things you are expert in that I know nothing about, and if you told me something based on your expertise I would take it as interesting new information. I wouldn’t get furious about it and carry on bringing it up over and over.

Again, if doesn’t matter how long you’ve been on here. You - or anyone else- could still be a sock puppet easily without MNHQ being able to know.

I’m not furious, it’s meinter who was arguing about it with me and *eyerollcentral” and another poster. It died down, she bright it up again. I responded. Meh.

And yet you don’t know that to most people in most English speaking countries the addition of ‘please’ to a request does not render it a demand, quite the opposite. Kindly please bore off.

All that boring shit about whether or not 'please' is rude really killed the thread, didn't it?