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Harry needs to go NC

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Twatalert · 09/01/2023 13:03

Harry needs to go NC with his family and grieve for the kind of family he never had.

It is clear they are completely dysfunctional. I believe everything he says. He has gained awareness of the abuse going on, but now sees abuse everywhere. It is typical for abuse survivors. Once you have seen it you see it everywhere and it is hard to distinguish which part is the abuse and which part is human.

He needs to spend time with himself, continue to process and come to terms with everything rather than selling it.

In time he might understand that he cannot change them and he cannot convince them to change. They'll either wake up or they won't. He can only decice how he wants to deal with what they give him. He has not yet understood he needs to let go of them, which is the reality of many that have been abused.

William was the golden child and Harry the scapegoat. Trouble is he finds issue with 'normal' things (bigger and smaller bedroom's..) rather than pinpointing the systematic abuse he has suffered.

He's trying to convince the world he was treated unfairly. A sign that he is not ready to let go and wants approval from millions. He is in pain.

Instead of books and interviews, he should write a diary (and not publish it).

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/01/2023 14:54

if anything, Harry is beginning to look as if he's abusing his family, not the other way around

I did ask if the OP thought that what Harry was doing by publicising things like his father's bad back and his teddy bear was actually bullying. No reply so far.

midsomermurderess · 09/01/2023 14:58

Maybe his family has beaten him to it.

wincarwoo · 09/01/2023 14:58

Thinkbiglittleone · 09/01/2023 14:42

@BethJ62

His truth ? Hmm
What ???it is his truth ? Why can't he answer back for himself?

There is evidence that he ( and his wife) have a tenuous relationship with the truth

Which parts that he had directly said are you questioning ? That you have heard directly from his lips, not from the press.

Yes and his family have also been well know to lie (cover things up)

Racist/not racist.

StalkedByASpider · 09/01/2023 15:00

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/01/2023 14:54

if anything, Harry is beginning to look as if he's abusing his family, not the other way around

I did ask if the OP thought that what Harry was doing by publicising things like his father's bad back and his teddy bear was actually bullying. No reply so far.

Well, yes!

It's been quite a dedicated campaign of harassment and gaslighting if you want to put it all out there.

The Oprah interview, then Meghan's podcasts - and didn't Harry have an interview before that with the weird tapping thing he acted out? - then there's been the Netflix series, Harry's book, Harry's two interviews and we still have rumours of another book being released, this time by Meghan with "her truth".

With Harry now retracting implied accusations of racism - after having accepted an award for tackling structural racism in the royal family - he's now trying to gaslight everyone into believing that they didn't claim what they did. Which included the strong insinuation that Archie didn't get a title because of his skin colour.... And let's not forget, Harry himself said silence makes you just as bad but him and Meghan did nothing to correct the accusations of racism until now. So by his own admission, he's guilty too?

When it's all set out, it's a concerted campaign of harassment, gaslighting, wild accusations and selling private and personal information. The family begged him to stop - in Harry's own words - but he's ignored them and continued. I'd say all of that looks pretty much like an abusive campaign...if you were so inclined to frame it that way.

Twatalert · 09/01/2023 15:00

StalkedByASpider · 09/01/2023 14:50

OK, fair enough - if you're comfortable that you're not projecting, then OK.

The only counter point I would make to you is that by believing Harry, you're potentially accusing certain people of being abusive - with zero evidence. Would you say that's an acceptable thing to do? And in fact, there's evidence to the contrary as Harry has been shown to have a loose attachment to facts and the truth.

Of course it's important to listen to what people say, and vital to give serious consideration to the fact that they might be telling the truth. But Harry has made no allegations of abuse, just a bunch of spurious, childish grievances.

People loved Harry. If there was anyone they would have forgiven for anything, it was him. The fact he has fallen so far says a lot about how poor his behaviour has been, and how unbelievable his claims are.

Where's your pity for William, and for Charles? For having their privacy invaded so ruthlessly? For having intensely private moments sold as cannon fodder for the world?

if anything, Harry is beginning to look as if he's abusing his family, not the other way around.

We should take victims seriously, but we still need to employ critical thinking skills to be alert for signs that someone might not be telling the truth. And unfortunately, there's plenty of those with Harry.

Well, I am open to the fact H has been abused. I actually believe he has. We do not have facts 100pc, but we have enough indications, which I find credible. If that makes me an accuser, then so be it. I am open to hear the other side and reconsider.

Lots of people are insulting H, even in this thread. That is OK because we do not have enoug evidence the RF treated him badly?

I have compassion for C, W and K and I think I said that on this thread before. It is not black and white.

H and M have twisted the facts, correct. I don't agree when they do it. Still does not mean H has not been abused. Everyone is at fault somehow. H needs to take a good look at himself everytime he does that.

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StalkedByASpider · 09/01/2023 15:01

Twatalert · 09/01/2023 15:00

Well, I am open to the fact H has been abused. I actually believe he has. We do not have facts 100pc, but we have enough indications, which I find credible. If that makes me an accuser, then so be it. I am open to hear the other side and reconsider.

Lots of people are insulting H, even in this thread. That is OK because we do not have enoug evidence the RF treated him badly?

I have compassion for C, W and K and I think I said that on this thread before. It is not black and white.

H and M have twisted the facts, correct. I don't agree when they do it. Still does not mean H has not been abused. Everyone is at fault somehow. H needs to take a good look at himself everytime he does that.

What indications do you see that suggest Harry has been abused OP?

rumship · 09/01/2023 15:07

Harry abused GOOD GRIEF!

The royal family spent his entire life before Meghan trying to cover up his behaviour. He's only pissed now because its out for all to see, he's a pathetic little man child. At least they used to spin it as oh he's just a cheeky chappy, no he wasn't he was a spoilt little shit.

Even one of the members of security said recently that he used to tease William that he gould get away with much more than willian because he was not the heir to the throne. Harry is and has always been a rich little shit.

FriendofDorothy · 09/01/2023 15:09

CoffeandTiaMaria · 09/01/2023 13:25

Of course he won’t go NC, he needs to get as much blood money as possible to fund his Californian lifestyle 🙄
The toxic pair need ongoing conversations etc to spill the beans on in future tell-all books and documentaries- that’ll be nearly impossible if the go NC.

This.... absolutely this. He claims to want privacy whilst prostituting him and his family on every platform possible.

He reminds me so much of my cousin who left his wife, made allegations about her which are all patently untrue, had loads of therapy and now markets himself as some sort of guru; describing himself as an empath and a survivor. It's all clearly bullshit and is designed to make himself look like a victim and everyone else as a perpetrator.

Thinkbiglittleone · 09/01/2023 15:25

Racist/not racist

He has never called his family racist

MeghanAndTheSeals · 09/01/2023 15:55

Thinkbiglittleone · 09/01/2023 15:25

Racist/not racist

He has never called his family racist

Jesus. Can see how this is going to go now.

After 2 years, with countless posts on here, asserting how racist the royal family are. All those posts lauding H&M for speaking the truth, for exposing the family, for championing the cause and picking up awards.

We are now going to be fucking gaslit by posters stating “he never said they were racist”.

Jog on with that one. It’s not going to wash, no matter what way you try to spin it.

StormzyinaTCup · 09/01/2023 16:12

MeghanAndTheSeals · 09/01/2023 15:55

Jesus. Can see how this is going to go now.

After 2 years, with countless posts on here, asserting how racist the royal family are. All those posts lauding H&M for speaking the truth, for exposing the family, for championing the cause and picking up awards.

We are now going to be fucking gaslit by posters stating “he never said they were racist”.

Jog on with that one. It’s not going to wash, no matter what way you try to spin it.

Yes, pathetic the lengths people are going to go to rather than take off their H&M rose coloured specs.

It's a 'jog the f**k on' from me too.

Spaghetti201 · 09/01/2023 16:16

I agree with you OP. People who haven’t been through abuse just won’t understand, don’t waste your time trying to convince them. I hope Harry can heal in time.

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:02

@MeghanAndTheSeals Harry did not say the Royal Family were racist. I think the Royal Family are racist.

BabyFour2023 · 09/01/2023 17:04

LaBrujaPiruja · 09/01/2023 13:09

No, KC and the PoW need to go NC with H&M.

This! He was best friends with the pair of them until MM came along and now they’re awful people.
The sooner the whiny twat is out of the headlines the better!

TrashyPanda · 09/01/2023 17:04

Perhaps the inner child in him still hopes his family will finally listen to him

and perhaps he just needs to stop being so immature and self-centred. He’s nearly40 and whinging bcos William got the bigger bedroom? That’s neve4 going to get him any sympathy. And thinking it will shows the depths of his delusions.

grow up. Stop telling stories about your penis to the whole world bcos it makes you seem like a real prick (pun intended)

and apologise to your family.

quite frankly, Harry’s silly stories do him no favours. Instead, they make his family appear totally normal, and paint him in a very poor light.

HaroldandWilly · 09/01/2023 17:27

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:02

@MeghanAndTheSeals Harry did not say the Royal Family were racist. I think the Royal Family are racist.

Bollocks they didn't! They both heavily heavily implied that's what they meant!

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 17:32

@BradfordGirl do you think Lady Hussey was racist?

ArcaneWireless · 09/01/2023 17:35

He didn’t say the RF were abusive either but it was put out there in the same manner.

Waiting for the backtrack on that.

He won’t find his happiness until he stops being so vindictive and bitter about things like lip gloss.

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:36

@toomuchlaundry Yes.

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:37

Personally I would not use the word abusive, but toxic and dysfunctional.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 09/01/2023 21:08

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the RF are racist. Certainly there will be racist members (as there are in many families). But Harry falling back on technically of never using the word "racist" himself is an insult to everyone's intelligence. It was plain as day that's what he was saying.

thisismylittlebrotherGeorge · 09/01/2023 21:12

I agree with you OP

I think (from my own personal experience too) is that the healthiest person in a toxic family is usually the one who causes the most friction
This is exactly what's happening here

Twatalert · 09/01/2023 21:12

JemimaTiggywinkles · 09/01/2023 21:08

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the RF are racist. Certainly there will be racist members (as there are in many families). But Harry falling back on technically of never using the word "racist" himself is an insult to everyone's intelligence. It was plain as day that's what he was saying.

H is def gaslighting on this. They clearly implied the RF are racist on Oprah, or he could have put it right there and then.

Didn't M call the whole of UK racist anyway?

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Twatalert · 09/01/2023 21:14

thisismylittlebrotherGeorge · 09/01/2023 21:12

I agree with you OP

I think (from my own personal experience too) is that the healthiest person in a toxic family is usually the one who causes the most friction
This is exactly what's happening here

He seems a right mess atm but if he continues to heal and accepts his family for who they are, good and bad, he might come out the other end.

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Madamecastafiore · 09/01/2023 21:38

I'd say PH needs to go no contact with MM. His life seems shots and giggles until she ticked up at the party!