Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

If all that truly happened - and despite their lies, I'm inclined to think it did, even if to some extent - then I think K and W set out to freeze her out.

The baby brain reaction was OTT and sounds like something a mumsnetter would say over a benign comment. "How "discusting, vile and grim"! I'm sobbing and shaking with rage" 🤣

Seriously it's the sort of thing you giggle or laugh at unless you take yourself extremely seriously. Even if a stranger said it, it'd still be amusing and a way to show understanding even if it's a tad presumptious, let alone your own sister in law.

The finger pointing and telling off is beyond insulting and rude. He's not talking to a child and even so, still unkind.

The lipgloss incident was also OTT (Is that a pattern?). I wouldn't want to share lipgloss but the somewhat polite way would be for the person to use their finger to dab.

I think Meghan was trying her hardest to pally up with Kate as her sister in law but it seems Kate took every opportunity to put her in her place or take offence. Nice but nasty.

Of course this is all speculation - I'm simply judging from what OP wrote. No one knows if it's true or not.

(I still neither like nor dislike any of them. They all have their good and bad sides and I judge each situation on it's own)

I think the opposite, I think Harry and Meghan holding on to these grudges are oversensitive and precious. So Kate didn’t feel ok to lend Meghan a lipgloss? So what? She did it anyway and probably didn’t think about it again. Meghan made a “joke” that Kate didn’t find appropriate or funny and did the adult thing and asked for an apology- Harry is bringing it up now because he’s holding a grudge about his wife being asked to apologise.

To respond like a witch and how is she independent please explain????

Baby brain is a misogynistic insult, so good on Kate for putting Meghan in her place.

As for the rest, no one should have to accept a familiarity they are no comfortable with.

Absolutely agree with this!
We're hearing one side of a (probably warped) story.
I also don't particularly want to hear William and Kate's thoughts on it because they are, so far, being far more dignified in their silence.

H&M, to me anyway, are coming across as jealous people who both have a huge chip on their shoulders.

@SallyWD I think that’s the plan, to make Catherine look like that. and you’ve fallen for it

No, not at all.

100 times this!

I generally struggle to muster up an opinion on Kate. None of these stories have changed that, but saying another woman has baby brain is a twat thing to do.

She knows her place as Queen Dolittle that much we know...

In what interview, Netflix show, or book has Kate made any of these claims? They are all third hand claims from H and M that she acted in a particular way. I don't recall her whinging about any of the things you claim....

Agree. She could have taken the high road and, as one commoner to another, reached out and showed her the ropes. She could actually have had a work ally (they didn't need to be best friends, just colleagues). But she doesn't like other women, she used to scare them off of William. He proposed at least twice to other women (Isabella Calthorpe x 1, and it varies on who the other was, Jecca Craig most likel, they turned him down), and Kate was the last one standing. That's partly why it took so long for him to get married.

They are really scraping the barrel if those are the 3 worst things they can say about Kate to justify their hostility towards her. Makes them look like idiots.

furthermore Harry still hasn’t fully explained the whole rights / baby brain story which leads me to believe there is more to the the story.

also Meghan tried to market herself as the worlds greatest feminist at speeches and the endless tale where she took on washing up liquid, yet they are so dim they think there was nothing wrong with reducing a women to her biology by saying she had baby brain just when they didn’t agree with her!! This makes THEM look worse and they don’t even realise it. Classic narcissist

We don't know. We don't know if those things were said, how, if they were one offs, what the context and background is. I'm ok with not knowing.

You read it wrong Meghan used her finger to get the lip gloss, that's what Kate is offended about she didn't put it to her lips. You know what is funny Kate and William are advocates for mental health I nearly pissed myself laughing.

Tights * story. It’s always glossed over that the actual story is

This makes no sense, Meghan is older than Kate.

And doesn't look it. That's part of the issue. Kate is obsessed with looking young.

I'm actually liking her more now. I never disliked her, I just found her quite boring. She's coming across as having some personality now.

Yep!

No, I didn’t read it wrong.

Also isn’t Harry supposed to have been an advocate for mental health too? It was his charity just as much as William and Kate’s. Where is his regard for the mental health of anyone else? He is self centred and petty.

I don't think any of us could tell because we will never have witnessed the tone of comments on either side. All of these are minor things that could be interpreted in different ways.

Seriously one can't say anything these days for fear of offending people playing the M(isogynist) card.

That sounds familiar on mumsnet but on another issue.😉

Dignified silence is the best way for KC, PW, Kate, etc etc etc is the best way in my opinion. Don't drop to the level of H and M by selling it all to the highest bidder. I think some people are seeing H for what he is now - incredibly damaged, bitter and vengeful, self centred, all about him and M and their feelings whilst not giving a hoot for anyone else's.