Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

No I don’t

Oh go and do something useful and stop wasting your time.
HONESTLY.. who gives a fuck!

No. I think Kate gives the impression of being a confident woman with clear boundaries.

Which is a good thing, isn't it?

And we all believe everything Harry says don’t we ?

Lol. No. I wouldn't have wanted my ex-SIL making 'jokey' remarks about me having baby brain. And re the lip gloss sharing- which is gross - she was in a bit of a no win situation there. She couldn't have refused without people making a fuss about it but she's entitled to think it's germy and grim, and a brief involuntary flinch is really not a big fucking deal.

I don't know. I wasn't there. I have no idea of the nuances of their relationships.

Personally I think the baby brain comment is a bit insulting. But I would have let it slide but I am not married to the Prince of Wales.

I agree . Clearly Harry is miffed that W and C didn’t fall for Meghan’s charms .

No I don't at all but there might be some truth in it.

Two sides to every story. Unfortunately (or fortunately probably), we're only hearing the one side.

I disagree simply because we’ve only heard one biased side of the story, and it was told in a way that was deliberately intended to make Kate look like she’s being over sensitive.

Its not Kate that’s being a drama queen and acting like a victim just because she had some expected press attention, and that fact speaks for itself.

You are putting an H&M gloss on the whole thing - which of course Harry intended.
It probably wasn't like that at all, but K&W won't join in the bitching

No, seems rude to me.

I have lived in the US for long periods in my life and no-one would have borrowed lipgloss, forced me to hug them, nor would they have made derogatory comments relating to my hormones . The Americans I know are far more polite than most of my UK friends.

I as a woman without kids would never ever tell a new mother she had baby brain / hormone issues, I personally would find it offensive. I also hate to be hugged, so I'm on her side with that one too 😂

I think that it's not formality, but in their positions (future king and queen) it's normal to be more reserved with someone entering your close circle, especially someone who perhaps doesn't know as much about things being from a totally different country and culture.

I actually think that Harry hasn't really done Megan any favours, he's recounting this from memory and his POV - without being inside the heads of W&C it's hard to say what the other side of this was.

The only one precious and over sensitive is Harry.

Most of his “dramatic revelations” have been fairly petty he said/she said non issues that in a normal family would have been forgotten almost as soon as they happened.

Who holds on to someone pulling a face over lipgloss for years and refusing to hug and then recounts it in a memoir designed to showcase your “truth”.

Its all petty shite and so bloody boring.

I agree, and I think if they’d just reciprocated her warmth, they may have all ended up finding a happy medium. The first few times I made American friends it was a culture shock for my uptight ways but I got over it. It’s just all a bit sad really

We are hearing one side and it's the voice of individuals who have a vested interest in making her look bad.

Apply some critical thinking FGS.

Even if Harry's stories about Kate are absolutely 100% true, 'post-natal woman doesn't like being teased about her hormones' and 'woman doesn't act delighted to share makeup' is hardly damming.

No, I don't. My opinion of her has risen.

It's not "precious " to be dignified, formal and non-intimate with those one isn't close to.

Being sloppy, TMI, intrusive and presumptuous are not virtues.

No, absolutely not. I can relate, I'd find it very challenging to have someone who is as dominant as Meghan trampling over my boundaries. Why is it ok for Meghan to be outspoken and not for Kate to assert her preferences? I'd be irritated by having to work with a Meghan type and probably wouldn't get much done due to extensive eye rolling. They are not just Silly, they are colleagues in the firm, well were.

Yes. Unfortunately Harry does not have the same healthy scepticism and ability to judge character. But that's his problem. And it is certainly a problem.

Especially someone who has form for selling private moments to the highest bidder.

I find that women who have clear boundaries are often called precious and over sensitive. It is a way of trying to get them to fall in line with whatever the other person wants.

But if you're going down that road regards baby brain (such a feminist thing to laugh about ) then one could equally say M wax bring precious for being upset at being called out on it

No, I hadn't heard the lipgloss thing, but she should have used a brush. Wtf uses someone else's lipstick/ gloss straight on lips or with a finger. Rank.