Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

[SallyWD]

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

@IcedPurple
This is true, but OP was asking for opinions, so that's what you'll PROBABLY find on this thread. Don't be shocked.

Yeah because right in the midst of a heated discussion about someone being rude and abrasive being told by said rude and abrasive person you’ve got baby brain and hormone problems is really helpful and not remotely offsensive.

No, I don’t.

I think ultimately you have two very different ladies who have grown up very differently, with different expectations and personalities, I suspect Kate is very guarded, and Meghan a bit overly familiar.

quite frankly the things that they’ve mentioned are such petty points, that I think it makes Harry worse to bring them up years later

I really like my SIL - if she asked to borrow my lipgloss I'd give her it, but not want it back. If we were both public figures, I would also be very surprised that she'd come to a major event without her lipgloss, and wonder if this was either a misplaced attempt to be pally, or some kind of stupid test.

Kate wore cream to the wedding

Yellow.

It's true, though. It's in print. Multiple people who know her have said these things. Her own cousin came out and said she was nice enough but dim and unengaged with things that didn't concern her. Someone admitted she used to copy their essays at school and at other times not deign to speak with them. The queen called her lazy. Camilla didn't like her at the start.

Which photographed as cream, which was her plan :)

I think this too. I think Megan went in expecting an informal “sisters” type arrangement. Which I don’t think was in itself unreasonable. However, Kate apparently wasn’t up for that and that isn’t unreasonable either.

Telling the world, that’s the shitty bit.

Meghan, apologies

I thought this too. If this is the worst they have on Kate, then she can't be that bad a person at all.

So what are we saying, people aren't allowed to have involuntary facial expressions? Last I checked we had people on these threads talking about disinfecting their shopping, but if it's Kate, well she's just got to suck up sharing lipgloss.

no not really and its the way m turned it ro9und to make her the vctim that annoys me

I think both women are a bit precious, but I do not doubt for 1 second that Megan was treated badly due to racism, especially when you compare how Kate is treated for doing the same things. It is time to get rid of the whole Royal family anyway, it's such a weird concept to have 1 family, not working, paid for by the state, i.e us.

Nope

Maybe she should’ve read the room and realised she’s dealing with a pair of uptight white people 😆

Fair comment.

This

No one's saying that. But people who have been extensively trained to appear neutral as part of their job should be able to control their facial expressions. We know however Kate pulls exaggerated faces for effect and had no issue being seen to look round at H&M and say "wow" when she was on camera at the commonwealth (Maybe?) service. She's like a teenager pulling faces to make it known she's unhappy instead of acting like an adult.

Unless there is more context, it's really not possible to know. What if (and yes, I am completely making this up to come up with a potential scenario where it would be rude) Kate and Meghan were disagreeing about something that happened in the past, Meghan's says "I think it happened like this", Kate says "no, I remember it like this", Meghan responds "well you probably don't remember properly because of the baby brain". That would be using it as a way to make Kate's memory look unreliable.

That's very different to (an equally hypothetical) conversation where Kate is bothered by the fact she forgot something, and Meghan reassures her by saying "it's alright, it's probably just the baby brain." Which would probably be fine.

The thing is it’s all totally academic because we know absolutely nothing from Kate’s side. We likely never will.
You can’t make any judgments or even form a balanced opinion without hearing both sides.
H&M could have wildly under played the baby brain incident. More could have been said along these lines either on this day or before.
Nothing of what Harry is saying Is the full picture - you only have half a story so how can you make any judgements from that about what Kate may (or may not) have been upset about!

THIS!

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