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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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Cherry60 · 11/01/2023 09:41

Lampzade · 11/01/2023 09:09

This is why I waited until the book was released in order to read the context.
Context is everything in situations such as these

He comes across really well - warm, relatable, which only makes it more shocking to me that he's able to kick his family in the teeth in public. There's no 'context' can explain that.

SighsTheNewWord · 11/01/2023 09:41

That was to the poster who questioned how they can share the same colour of lipgloss when they have "very different colouring".

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:14

Morestrangethings · 11/01/2023 07:44

Thank you Vera,

Hardly a bloke on the edge of crazy as some would erroneously have it. I must admit those ‘excerpts’ in the tabloid press had me wondering if he was a dick, but with context they have different meanings all together.

He is definitely smart and articulate. And funny. And compassionate.

Colbert and the audience liked him. And the veterans in the audience liked him.

Yup an inconvenient truth - he's certaintly media savvy, articulate and comes overs as a nice bloke and is now a superstar in the US whatever nonsense the British media would like you to believe otherwise and obviously not perfect. But free at last to find his own voice leaving the rest behind in their dysfunctional , decaying toxic cage. That's why the British establishment hate him so much and are inciting mob hatred of the most despicable kind.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:17

and is now a superstar in the US

Really? Another thread from US posters didn’t really back this up. It seems to be a go to phrase from Harry fans though

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:19

Cherry60 · 11/01/2023 09:41

He comes across really well - warm, relatable, which only makes it more shocking to me that he's able to kick his family in the teeth in public. There's no 'context' can explain that.

He had a talented ghost writer.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:19

Plus it’s only because he’s talking about the RF constantly, not because he’s done anything more than that.

People are just intrigued in the RF. if they weren’t he wouldn’t be earning money from it.

ReneBumsWombats · 11/01/2023 10:22

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:14

Yup an inconvenient truth - he's certaintly media savvy, articulate and comes overs as a nice bloke and is now a superstar in the US whatever nonsense the British media would like you to believe otherwise and obviously not perfect. But free at last to find his own voice leaving the rest behind in their dysfunctional , decaying toxic cage. That's why the British establishment hate him so much and are inciting mob hatred of the most despicable kind.

he's certaintly media savvy

He certainly isn't. He didn't guess that accusing a senior royal of racism in an interview would get people speculating about who it was and he didn't guess that the press would run with the most explosive bits of his book. For someone who's been in the press all his life, it's actually amazing how little he understands it.

BradfordGirl · 11/01/2023 10:23

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:19

He had a talented ghost writer.

Funny I was reading Royalists yesterday saying how shit the writing of the book was.

Morestrangethings · 11/01/2023 10:23

We are starting to see some “sour grapes” now Harry is looking to be more Champ than Chump.

Inkanta · 11/01/2023 10:24

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:14

Yup an inconvenient truth - he's certaintly media savvy, articulate and comes overs as a nice bloke and is now a superstar in the US whatever nonsense the British media would like you to believe otherwise and obviously not perfect. But free at last to find his own voice leaving the rest behind in their dysfunctional , decaying toxic cage. That's why the British establishment hate him so much and are inciting mob hatred of the most despicable kind.

Yes exactly Vera.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:27

Morestrangethings · 11/01/2023 10:23

We are starting to see some “sour grapes” now Harry is looking to be more Champ than Chump.

Really? How is he looking like a Champ?

BadgerB · 11/01/2023 10:29

Lampzade · Today 09:06
Do you honestly believe that Meghan didn’t want Charlotte and George involved because she wanted all the attention on herself?

Simple answer - Yes

Morestrangethings · 11/01/2023 10:30

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:27

Really? How is he looking like a Champ?

“Well if you can’t see it, I can’t help you.”

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:31

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:17

and is now a superstar in the US

Really? Another thread from US posters didn’t really back this up. It seems to be a go to phrase from Harry fans though

We are now in pick your side with a strong dose of confirmation bias thrown in. He doesn't need to win an election and let's assume that audience hasn't been stuffed with Harry fans then he has a reaction that is off the scale in a world of nothing celebrities. Indeed he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life. With the added bonus that republicans like myself see him as a stepping stone to rid us of all this nonsense and actually at a human level free them to be who they want to be. That of a privileged,rich aristocratic family free of constitutional duties. The monarchy died with the Queen it's just that it will take a while for events and public opinion to catch up with that truth.

When Dan fecking Wooton is on your side time to change sides.....

7Worfs · 11/01/2023 10:33

I’m afraid superstars they aren’t… all the A-listers are/were cozying up to them for RF scoops. As soon as that’s done, they are discarded like last night’s chutney.

They weren’t invited to Obama’s 60th birthday party; you don’t see them with Oprah or Ellen. George & Amal never even got close, even though they were invited to the wedding without a personal prior connection. Beyoncé also doesn’t seem to have time for them anymore.

ReneBumsWombats · 11/01/2023 10:34

Indeed he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life. With the added bonus that republicans like myself see him as a stepping stone to rid us of all this nonsense and actually at a human level free them to be who they want to be.

Even though he claims to be a royalist and hasn't attacked the concept of the institution, only how it has affected him personally? How can someone who monetises being a royal his entire life, refusing any other career, be the darling of republicanism?

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:35

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:31

We are now in pick your side with a strong dose of confirmation bias thrown in. He doesn't need to win an election and let's assume that audience hasn't been stuffed with Harry fans then he has a reaction that is off the scale in a world of nothing celebrities. Indeed he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life. With the added bonus that republicans like myself see him as a stepping stone to rid us of all this nonsense and actually at a human level free them to be who they want to be. That of a privileged,rich aristocratic family free of constitutional duties. The monarchy died with the Queen it's just that it will take a while for events and public opinion to catch up with that truth.

When Dan fecking Wooton is on your side time to change sides.....

So is he the superstar or is it the royal family? What has he done, aside from being a member of the RF and slagging them off that has the USA interested? Will they still be interested when he has nothing more to say about them?

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:35

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:31

We are now in pick your side with a strong dose of confirmation bias thrown in. He doesn't need to win an election and let's assume that audience hasn't been stuffed with Harry fans then he has a reaction that is off the scale in a world of nothing celebrities. Indeed he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life. With the added bonus that republicans like myself see him as a stepping stone to rid us of all this nonsense and actually at a human level free them to be who they want to be. That of a privileged,rich aristocratic family free of constitutional duties. The monarchy died with the Queen it's just that it will take a while for events and public opinion to catch up with that truth.

When Dan fecking Wooton is on your side time to change sides.....

He’s someone capitalising on the RF connection.

No amount of people thinking ‘yay he’s winning’, anti monarchy yada yada is going to persuade me that he’s doing anything more.

He’s selling a story re an institution that people find intriguing. If he ever stops selling it people will stop wanting to have him on shows. It’s tawdry but entertaining no doubt. A good laugh but he’s no ‘superstar’. He hasn’t done anything.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:37

Morestrangethings · 11/01/2023 10:30

“Well if you can’t see it, I can’t help you.”

Are you being ironic?

You think he’s more Chump really don’t you 😬

IcedPurple · 11/01/2023 10:48

vera99 · 11/01/2023 10:31

We are now in pick your side with a strong dose of confirmation bias thrown in. He doesn't need to win an election and let's assume that audience hasn't been stuffed with Harry fans then he has a reaction that is off the scale in a world of nothing celebrities. Indeed he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life. With the added bonus that republicans like myself see him as a stepping stone to rid us of all this nonsense and actually at a human level free them to be who they want to be. That of a privileged,rich aristocratic family free of constitutional duties. The monarchy died with the Queen it's just that it will take a while for events and public opinion to catch up with that truth.

When Dan fecking Wooton is on your side time to change sides.....

Can't you see that you're contradicting yourself massively in the very same post?

On the one hand you say that "The monarchy died with the Queen" and on the other claim that "he is the son of the King and Diana - that's AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable for the rest of his life".

If the monarchy is so irrelevant then how on earth can merely being the son of the king, with no other achievements of note, be "AAA list in today's currency and hugely monetizable"? Both cannot be true.

And you do know Harry is a monarchist? He said so himself. Although who knows, by the next interview he may have changed his mind and will blame the 'British media' for twisting his princely words. Also holds on tight to his royal titles. He's not against the monarchy at all, just in a lifelong hissy fit because his brother was born first. The hero worship of him from some republicans is bizarre.

Kateforqueen · 11/01/2023 10:48

Tamarindtree · 09/01/2023 12:37

I’ve never seen or heard Kate behave anything less than appreciative and happy to lead a privileged life as part of the Royal Family. She appears to get on well with them all and understands and accepts the traditions that are part and parcel of appearing in public and representing the Royal Family.

As far as I know she has simply just got on with it with good grace and without a need to complain or whinge about it in public.

This is spot on. Kate has perfect etiquette. She knows her place & what is appropriate & inappropriate. Meghan's behavior was very clumsy & inappropriate. She barged into the royal family with her "boots on the ground" fully intent on changing the institution to suit her own agenda.

toomuchlaundry · 11/01/2023 10:54

Not sure an audience of Americans whooping at him makes him a hero/superstar. They used to whoop at Trump too!

Kateforqueen · 11/01/2023 10:55

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 09/01/2023 12:37

IT's crazy how people are fighting against evidence in front of their eyes. So they were "welcoming"? Yet we all saw when Archie was born, William said "I'm already an uncle" and neither of them could be bothered to summon up any enthusiasm or even say the baby's name. Kate wore cream to the wedding. Neither of them read as "welcoming" in their behaviour. They read as pretty toxic.

But why should they be welcoming. They could tell a mile off that Meghan's personality was entirely unsuitable & inappropriate for royal life.
That & the fact she was estranged from her father & her mothers side of the family. She had no childhood friends or college friends at the wedding. No old neighbours, just Doria & a few suits actors. That is a red flag in itself so why would they welcome her. They were wary of her & rightly so. Look at Harry publishing private messages between Kate & Meghan
... The fact that they kept those for 5 years waiting for revenge says alot

Cherry60 · 11/01/2023 11:00

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:19

He had a talented ghost writer.

I meant on the video clip rather than the book. I think he generally comes across well in interviews so I can't reconcile it with the vindictive things he says.

vera99 · 11/01/2023 11:05

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2023 10:35

He’s someone capitalising on the RF connection.

No amount of people thinking ‘yay he’s winning’, anti monarchy yada yada is going to persuade me that he’s doing anything more.

He’s selling a story re an institution that people find intriguing. If he ever stops selling it people will stop wanting to have him on shows. It’s tawdry but entertaining no doubt. A good laugh but he’s no ‘superstar’. He hasn’t done anything.

None of them have that's the point and he has fought for his country and risked his life in a war , not one that I agree with but heh "my country right or wrong" and he's arguably done more than any billionaire Kardashian. As he mentions in the Colbert interview if his mum had lived he wouldn't be doing this and if Charles had forsworn his mistress she wouldn't have died. Cause and effect - karma in action so to speak.