Prince Harry - sounds articulate and quite intelligent

[pigalow27]

There seems to be an accepted view that Prince Harry is very dim and unintelligent but he seems to be to be really quite articulate and have a wide vocabulary (antagonist, complicit.) I've thought this before when he made a speech at the Invictus games but assumed it was written for him and he was reading it but the answers to the questions in the interview couldn't all possibly have been learnt,

That didn’t do him much good then. It was much later that he referred to his friend using the P word. I seem to remember another offensive term was also used.

The 'bringing peace on a global level' has echoes of Diana in her interview wanting to be 'Queen of people's hearts' because she knew she'd never be queen of England. Massively over inflated opinion of themselves and their relevance to the population

These were pre approved questions which chosen interviewers so could be practiced like a script beforehand. It was an advertising teaser for his book and he would have gone to the interviews knowing which story or anecdotes that he was going to focus on.
If he had an interviewer who was allowed to cross exam his answers eg When he said that the media said the RF were racist and not him and his wife, most interviewers would ask why he accepted the Ripple of Hope award for fighting racism in the RF which would have made an interesting answer.

I think you underestimate yourself. Your writing is most definitely not from someone with an IQ several points below average.

I’ve always been fine with language /writing but my maths ability is like a 6 year olds. I’ve got dreadful problems with spacial awareness, following instructions, directions etc and reasoning. I did well in the IQ test questions that involved language but everything else - patterns, sequencing etc just make zero sense to me.

All that illustrates is what crap IQ tests are. Your is most definitely well over 100 - quite a lot over I’d say.

I've just watched the 60 mins interview and it is mostly the same stuff but with some bits ramped up eg Camilla and of course the editing with photos adds to it all . H obviously felt more at ease for some reason except when he started sniffing again and touching his nose when discussing DogBowl and William. He was more adamant about not being a part of the RF in it than the Tom one. His main message again was that the Press destroyed his mother and he didn't want that happening to Meghan whose name he used throughout as opposed to "my wife". Wondering why that is?

sounds paranoid to me.

All that illustrates is what crap IQ tests are. Your is most definitely well over 100 - quite a lot over I’d say.

it did seem to be mainly sequencing, completing patterns etc which I absolutely can’t make sense of.

Those patterns literally make my brain hurt - anything above Year 3.. Unless it's something obvious like reflection, or the shape has changed colour, I can't do those Non-Verbal reasoning puzzles at all.

If you did practice them, though, some sort of instinctive thing would probably kick in, like muscle memory does with touch typing and playing the guitar.

I took about 200 driving lessons ( only 40 minute ones, as I couldn't concentrate for longer) and still couldn't pass. Think it's probably dyspraxia - like, in my case.

DiverseOpinions. I’m pretty sure I’ve got dyspraxia too. Can’t follow directions, read maps, find my way anywhere I’m not familiar with, can’t tie shoelaces without doing ‘bunny ears’, incredibly clumsy, can’t draw or cut straight lines, couldn’t co-ordinate things to drive a manual car, find it hard to cook a meal and juggle the various timings, can’t tell right from left easily etc. Im the same with patterns - unless it’s really obvious, like you say, I have not a clue. If it’s word patterns or anything to do with language I’ve no problems . Really good at wordle, anagrams etc. The conventional IQ test I did included everything I struggle with and very little of what I can do .

I agree with you that he should have made a personal apology to the Jewish community and not through that poorly worded (my opinion) palace statement in 2005.

To be fair -

Fortunately GCSEs demand more than accurate spelling and punctuation.

It's so rare to be able to handwrite accurately with no autocorrect that it will definitely take you quite far in English Language GCSE where 50% of the marks are for writing tasks and the vast majority of students comma splice, make many spelling errors and have no idea how to use an apostrophe or a semi colon.

Bakalava, so are you saying Harry’s therapist implanted false memories and you can tell this has happened to Harry, but no links to the literature about this practice because you don’t want to encourage people to read it? But you do want to encourage belief in it happening to Harry - just enough to discredit him? Because you see the signs in a little bit of the interview you have watched?

And ‘dim’ kids, if sent to expensive schools can be made to seem bright? In interview after interview they can hold their own and not have their lack of smarts become obvious?

Yeah, I don’t think so.

Meghan gave Harry an ornament of the Queen that she had bought from a local store. Harry writes in his book that it was ‘Granny’s face to a T’ and hung it straight on the large Christmas tree in their California home.

Toddler Archie was running around and knocked the tree’s stand, which caused the ornament to fall off and smash into pieces.

Harry recalls how his son grabbed a bottle and tried to spray water on the broken pieces, hoping that would fix it.

‘No, Archie, no – do not spray Gan-Gan,’ Meghan apparently told him. Harry writes: ‘I grabbed a dustpan and swept up the pieces, all the while thinking: This is weird.’

In an extraordinary passage, he says all became clear later when he went, on the recommendation of friends, to consult a woman who claimed to have ‘powers’.

He said he felt an ‘energy’ around her and that she felt that about him too, telling him ‘your mother is with you... right now’.

The psychic said Diana knew he had questions to answer but wanted to say she was proud and supportive of him.

The medium went on to say that his mother was telling her that her son was ‘living the life she couldn’t. You’re living the life she wanted for you.’

Harry writes that he felt he needed proof when the mystic said: ‘Your mother says… the ornament. Your mother says… something about a Christmas ornament? Of a mother? Or a grandmother? It fell? Broke? Archie tried to fix it. Your mother says she had a bit of a giggle about that.’

‘She was there,’ Harry concludes.

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Jesus wept!

It’s like an episode of Brass Eye! 😂

Oh me too. It’s a clique-y word that will hang around for a few years and gradually die off….hopefully.

‘Deranged’ even.

He wasn’t my PM but that’s the impression I had of Boris. Meanwhile the US had Trump, and we (Australia)had Trump-lite in Scott Morrison, who also had a religious bent and got messages from God through posters of eagles. It was a dark time.

All three bought to us courtesy of the Murdochracy.
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Whataboutery there.

Why are you trying to drag in randoms on social media and school students when your thread is about Harry?

You just fell into multiple logical fallacies and undermined the point of your own thread....🤦‍♂️

Yes, the term you're thinking of is "raghead". Raghead" is army slang for Taliban and al-Qaida fighters.

At the time, these revelations were reported by the Guardian in 2009 like this:

"The extracts were greeted with exasperation in palace circles, where huge efforts have been made to improve the prince's image, emphasising his charity work and service in Afghanistan last year, after previous apologies for other incidents, such as the fancy dress party four years ago when he dressed as a Nazi soldier."

How conveniently he forgets.....the Palace protected and changed his image for years positively.

On his own, he's continued to slide down opinion polls. 🤷‍♂️

Nobody will be talking about Harry's charity work in Afghanistan ever again after what he said about the Taliban he claimed to have killed. There are also Afghans calling for him to stand trial in the international criminal court too.

What an idiot.

I saw an IQ test as a little ad, and started it, but gave up on the third question. I always ask other people to interpret instructions for me, for working karaoke machines and getting the WiFi to work. When I was in equivalent of Year 4, I once traced and redrew the map of Great Britain facing the wrong way, and couldn't actually see what was wrong with it. Lol! I think it probably is dyspraxia.

Sad isn't it. A good grasp of spelling, grammar and punctuation should be the bare minimum for an adult who has been through the UK's education system.

Diana had the best education money could buy, home schooled by a governess, then private schools, plus finishing school. I would hope after all that she could spell and punctuate! But like Harry, probably not the most academically gifted and with a naive, blinkered outlook of the world and how it works.

I am reminded of Howard Gardner's ideas about multiple forms of intelligence.
No one brain can be optimised for all possible modes of thinking. People tend to have strengths and weaknesses. A strength for Harry is that his speech is fluent. This is a type of intelligence, I would argue. There are people who, even with the benefit of a good education, are going to be less fluent than Harry. Speaking easily and effortlessly is also one of Meghan's strengths.

On the other hand, I would say that strategic thinking could be a weakness for both of them.

@stormywaves My mum went to finishing school. There was a little less emphasis on calculus and a lot more on flower-arranging and millinery…