Prince Harry - sounds articulate and quite intelligent

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There seems to be an accepted view that Prince Harry is very dim and unintelligent but he seems to be to be really quite articulate and have a wide vocabulary (antagonist, complicit.) I've thought this before when he made a speech at the Invictus games but assumed it was written for him and he was reading it but the answers to the questions in the interview couldn't all possibly have been learnt,

@RedToothBrush There are many things the current Govt is doing that is far more damaging to the country as we both know.
RF are always a target for terrorists.

I do not know what is true or not in any of this but if just half of what he says is accurate... fuck me.. he is being restrained in his allegations!

What a way to treat your son, step son and his partner! not to mention the rather harsh way both sons treated after their mum died.

I'm NC with my sibling and its nothing like as bad as what Harry alleges.....

However, i do wonder if we are all being played here.... NHS on its knees, 1000s have died needlessly, rudderless Govt, inflation, economic collapse and instead of the media and opposition holding the Govt to account..... We have hectare's of media coverage on Harry and the RF.....

I mean the Ukraine conflict came along and saved Bojo for while but Sunak must have a direct line to God himself with this one.

I don't think he said Meghan once did he? That has to be deliberate. "This is your story, H"

😂😂😂😂

I doubt a royal will fall for that again. Maitlis is magnificent.

People are confusing IQ with emotional intelligence. We cannot tell if he is intelligent based on how he speaks, but we can assess his EQ on his decisions and actions.

I know someone who is in mensa who performed to a very mediocre standard in exams and subsequently in life, yet I know countless others who are good at studying/applying themselves who many would regard as intelligent but are actually quite average.

Plus intelligence can manifest in many ways; some are brilliant at languages but useless at maths and vice versa.

Wasn’t it foreign publications that published pictures of Diana dying which were banned here (and topless photos of Kate)? Foreign press are every bit as scummy (and more) as ours. All I know is I’m sick of hearing him regurgitating the same grievances as nauseam on every platform year after bloody year. If this was a friend and every time you saw them they did this we’d soon be distancing ourselves from them. It’s boring, it’s toxic and it’s oh so repetitive.

I could not agree more with you @RedToothBrush. Of all the endless posts there have been on this topic, for me it’s not about the rights, wrongs, whatever of the situation. You have a grievance, you set the record straight, absolutely fair enough. But it’s the endless mud slinging, the hints, the sheer pettiness of some of the grievances, the gaslighting and most of all, the monetisation of it all that is singularly distasteful, as well as being tone-deaf to what others around the world are facing. He could do so much good but chooses to sow discord instead- but as pps have said, for someone who says they’re the happiest they’ve ever been, he sure doesn’t look or sound it, so I suppose his actions should come as no surprise.

'The government are worse' might be true but it's also a straw man argument.

I think I've made the argument that the government are a shit show a few times on MN

It doesn't mean I can't also think that Harry should belt the fuck up too though. It's not an either / or choice.

I think both institutions are causing huge problems for the country. I don't think it's purely a dead cat to hide stuff either.

Its demonstrating the out of touchness of the whole Eton set. This thread is about how Harry appears intelligent and articulate yet his actions and content of what he says says the exact oppose. He demonstrates little emotional intelligence or context of the lives of others. We've lived through successive governments led and stuffed full of similar people who talk the right way and hang out with the right people but have no fucking clue about how the world works in practice. Things that the pandemic and Brexit have shown up badly.

THAT is really the problem. Overpromoted idiots or idiots born into high status who have nothing to offer the rest of us but slogans and whining.

It's the same problem manifesting in a different way.

We need constructive comments on what we want for the future and a plan for how we get there which is realistic. Harry doesn't do this anymore than 'get Brexit done' ever did.

It's empty and it's shallow.

The right questions to ask Harry, is what does he want, what exact changes does he want and how does he perceive getting to that point. You have to nail down his grievances from vague points and reams and reams of self pitying. The reality he is that Harry himself probably doesn't have the answer to this and that's why he's been in useless therapy for years, driven by money grabbing idiots who have deliberately kept him in that state rather than goal orientating his therapy with a clear conclusion point / exit point - whether that be via resolution or moving on.

All the same issues that Brexit has - the lack of resolution of the Irish border and unsatisfactory customs arrangements and trade deals with the EU.

It's hot air. Not policy / focus.

Well rehearsed, not intelligent and full of anger and spite

My son does a very funny piss take of my DH whenever he refers to me as his wife.

Calling me 'Mah Wayeff' in a Borat style voice (don't know if this is taken from a comedy?)

I actually like it on the odd occasion my DH calls me his wife, and I also like it when DS takes the piss.

I think Harry needs to enjoy the piss taking more.

He is a typical result of an education at Eton… just look at Boris Johnson.. believes totally his version of events and his interpretation of them. A certain arrogance comes from that. Posh accent with stock- phases. No understanding of their privilege or of the life and struggles of ordinary people. No empathy or ability to see the situation from the other side. It is sad to see Harry , in his late 30’s , is essentially a man- child.

Exactly. Can you look at Johnson and say he's anything but a manchild either?

There's your problem.

Well with being ‘royal’ private school educated I would expect him to be articulate. However having a posh accent doesn’t equal- intelligent. Didn’t his own mother suggest he was thick?

I think Harry's accent and vocabulary help to disguise just how unintelligent and downright nasty he is being. In last night's interview there were glaring inconsistences , painstakingly obvious deflections and some weird cognitive dissonance going on. He got visibly angry when asked a question that even remotely challenged him or tried to make him some accountability for what he is doing.

If he was intelligent he would have known that the interview and book would play badly to the public and he wouldn't get the vindication and recognition that he so desperately craves. He is so certain that he is on the side of right that he will keep on releasing more and more private and painful information about his family until the public and media accept that he is the wronged party. The obvious problem is that the more he says, the less this is happening and the more the public sympathise with the RF. The interview hasn't caused an uprising to eradicate or better regulate the British media, instead it has made him seem every bit as salacious and vindictive as the press.

The ultimate hypocrisy for me was when he detailed exactly how his father had broken the news of his mother's death to him. Word for word, vaguely acknowledging how absolutely harrowing that would have been for Charles. He unilaterally decided that this incredibly sensitive and emotional moment was acceptable to share with the whole world but any reconciliation talks between him and the RF must not be. Talk about skewed priorities about what is important and sacred.

Did he?? He said that?

That is odd.

Well you answered your own question. You really weren’t asking me.

When I was a kid that would have been expected. My sister went to a sec mod. Didn't take any academic exams, she did typing etc. She was very literate, excellent spelling and grammar and could easily string a coherent sentence together using quite long words <sarcasm>

So that's the least to expect from someone who went to the top public school in the country.

sounded to me like he was parroting a lot of words he's heard from Meghan.

I don’t think they’ll go short somehow. When you get 100 million dollars off Netflix they’ll never need to earn anything for 5he rest of their lives. But they’re greedy so who knows.

I hear what he’s saying, and to me it sounds like blah blah blah blah

Alexandra2001 I agree they are always targets but people under attack don't usually stick their heads above the parapet.

Bingo..blame Meghan
How very unoriginal

Most people seem to think the same. He talks the same talk now. 😟

That is presumably why you send your children to public school at vast expense. They can sound the part, use the connections and make an impact even when they are dim.
Beyond all of that, There is a lot of specialised literature out there about the implantation of false memories by 'therapists' but I will not recommend anything specific because there are far too many laypeople hurling these terms incorrectly at one another on SM to score points. However, specific sentence sequences, adopted quipping and trigger words and other subtle pointers can help you to detect a person who has been subjected to these procedures. I have watched a little bit of the interview and it is all there.

I would be interested to know what you mean by the ‘same talk’.

There seems to be an accepted view that Prince Harry is very dim and unintelligent but he seems to be to be really quite articulate and have a wide vocabulary (antagonist, complicit.)

You're mistaking articulacy for intelligence , and /or education. Plenty of people use terms whose meaning they clearly don't understand. "Reconciliation", for example.

Anybody who's been at Eton will speak fluently in a confident articulate voice and have a confident manner. That's the social polish Eton parents bought and paid for.

Social polish doesn't equate to intelligence, or being educated. Harry left Eton with rock bottom exam passes/qualifications.