Will you be watching the harry interview tonight at 9pm?

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Or will it be Happy Valley 😃 ?

So, I watched it. Can't believe interviewer did not ask him about killing Taliban. Very tame.

She was a private citizen despite the title. No-one would expect Fergie to have a huge ceremonial funeral now - it’s the same position as Diana was.

She wouldn’t have been Queen mother. You have to be a Dowager Queen to be QM. It’s rarely used because usually they are just HM Queen Mary/Alexandra. QEQM was known by it to differentiate her from her daughter.

She had a massive funeral because huge swathes of the British public demanded it.

It was very much Harry having a chat with his mate Tom rather than a proper interview.

I agree @YetMoreNewBeginnings although do think that TB tried to ask some interesting questions but Harry didn't answer those and turned them around to his own narrative every time.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings big difference between Fergie and Di.
Diana was still very much in the public eye. Still doing work trying to ban landmines etc and she was Mother to future King.

Fergie has been out the limelight for years. As well as being divorced.

I really didn't want to, but all these mumsnet threads are now making me curious 😬

In terms of royal status they were the same.

My point was that it was the public, due to her profile, that was the reason Diana had the big funeral. That’s why there was the funeral. Nothing to do with position in the RF at that point.

Had the public opinion/hysteria not gone the way they did she’d have had the funeral of a private (albeit famous) person.

I think also given he’s been so vocal about how incorrect press articles should be refuted by the family, not doing so here makes a point.

Give Harry a break!

His interview came across far better than Prince Andrew's!

Not sure if this has been listed or how to watch it but this is transcript of his USA 60 mins interview.

www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-interview-transcript-60-minutes-2023-01-08/#app

If this has been posted, I meant.

How low are we setting the bar here? 🤔

I thought Harry was set to be a global thought leader. So what would these leadership thoughts be?
Everyone must have an equal sized bedroom.
Everyone must take turns sitting on the front seat.
Everyone must acknowledge their little bruvver at school.
🤦‍♀️

I haven’t seen the interview yet but I’m shocked about the racist comment backtrack and comments on Camilla. A poster put up a comment about life long friends of hers dissing Penny Junor and Gyles Brandreth. I cannot comment too much as I don’t follow this avidly. I see Gyles said to move in from Clarkson and was slated. His motivation seems to be to not give the nastiness air, which is old school. However I see he has reported quite negatively on Meghan. I note his age and that he would have been around during the Diana era, then perhaps as a politician, but he will perhaps believe in that style of repotting. As for Penny, I note not all is negative and this is the second article, which came up when I googled her. This is in the wake of the Cambridge departure and she speaks quite warmly of them. The quotes from Camilla are also kind. www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7906019/Prince-Harrys-biographer-PENNY-JUNOR-begrudge-chance-happy.html. Just to say, I’m not sure Camilla is briefing against them.

Thanks for that. It clearer now. Re Diana as private citizen.

Power of the people. It’s pretty incredible, whether misguided in this instance or not, that the British people were able to bend the monarchy and the government to their will. It’s exactly what governments fear.

I do see your point.. I need to think about it more. Unconscious bias in regards to racism is still racism, but it’s Harry’s phrasing now, that seems to be an effort to mitigate how serious it still is. Got to go, grandkids are calling me, but need to think this through more.

"agree
hardley the public
more likely The Sun
it was the gutter press making all these daft remarks, which in retrospect were so very wrong.
crazy times"

But this is just basically saying that the press doesn't reflect what the public are thinking? Or at least have a symbiotic relationship. This idea that "the press" and "the media" are just these things that exist in a void. They only exist because the public consumes it.

I think people have to slag off the press because they can't face what humankind enjoys reading and watching, listening to and talking about.

I don't have cause to see Giles Brandesburton very often but he was on This Morning talking about the Netflix documentary and he was actually very warm and positive about Meghan. He said nothing critical at all.

Pp criticising Tom Bradby for not mentioning the Taliban kills etc etc I assumed that that would be because the interview was done before the book leaks? TB and AC et al wouldn't have known all the details of the book? It's confusing because presumably these interviews were meant to come out before the book publication but the leaks have changed that? Or would the interviewers have seen an advance copy? 🤔

Clearly the questions were based on the book so surely, they'd have seen them whole thing. Otherwise you're just asking pre-vetted questions on limited excerpts of Harrys choice. What would be the blooming point? You'd have to have zero journalistic scruples to do that, I'd think.

They probably didn't ask about the kills because it was unimportant to them as non soldiers. They couldn't know then what has been said since.
Or maybe Harry even vetoed those questions.
Maybe TB or AC will reveal all this later.

I haven't seen the interview btw but just confused.

Or Harry thinks William and Kate are jealous of Meghan when they might not have been? Harry obviously fell madly in love with Meghan, lovely, but I wonder from what he shares he perhaps expected William and Kate to immediately bond with M and not allow their relationship to develop at a more natural pace. And even if he did he wouldn't understand if it just turned out they were v different people so they were never going to be super close to Meghan.

Also he dismisses William calling Meghan rude, abrasive and not getting on with half of the staff as William just being influenced by press stories. He doesn't seem to consider that William formed that opinion from his own interactions? Nor does Harry seem to be interested in asking himself why half of the staff don't get on with her. Could it be he can't accept that as much as he loves her others might have different opinions? To be fair it's hard if you love someone to acknowledge others may not think your partner is the bee knees but you can't force people to like who you like.

This is true but one of his complaints is that the royal family didn't correct any stories such as not sharing that Meghan also cried during the bridesmaid issue. Yet he knew many viewers of the Oprah interview took Meghan's comments about a family member questioning what the baby's skin colour as her implicitly implying they were racist. Until now he never corrected that and allowed the notion that the royal family was racist to go unchallenged. A case of double standards to me.

Also regarding the bridesmaid issue until I read the book I am not clear whether both Kate and Meghan cried. I think the book might say they both cried and if it does he is not acknowledging in current interviews and during the Oprah interview that they both got upset. They just say it was a Meghan who cried.

The press in this country is a disgrace and it's high time that someone took them on and did something about it. It's just such a shame that it's Harry. His inconsistencies and the vendetta against his family just give the papers more ammunition. If he could be really specific about what has happened, with evidence, and at the same time stop the spiteful personal stuff, he might be able to make a difference. As it is, with the frosty penis, ass slapping, chess pieces, seal singing, drug taking, dog bowl smashing and petty jealousy, he has given the papers an absolute field day. Millions of words are being devoured by the public and his reputation is screwed, as is the chance of reconciliation with his family.

On top of all that, how can anyone take his stance against the press seriously after he allowed them to write about racism in the RF for two years before correcting what he now says was an inaccurate interpretation of the remarks to Oprah. Not racism after all, apparently!

So he kept quiet while the Queen issued a statement expressing her concern about the race issue and William was asked and denied that they are a racist family. He accepted an award for challenging structural racism in the RF. He took a job tackling misinformation in the media while letting the racist RF narrative continue. And he continues to complain about the RF refusing to correct false stories about his wife. Such hypocrisy. I really think this is the most shocking revelation so far.

Royal marriages have been arranged one forever for the benefit of the institutions until very recently.

Lots of people, myself & family included, have arranged marriages, love follows from what I’ve observed. That it didn’t in C&Ds case shows they weren’t properly matched & that’s the fault of both sets of parents & any matchmakers involved.