Will you be watching the harry interview tonight at 9pm?

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Or will it be Happy Valley 😃 ?

I posted this when he was trending. Camilla chose him to present the ITV program.

Hit enter to soon. It was basically ignored.

My money's on Camilla, it really is.

Half of that interview was about how Camilla briefed against them, how they didn't want Camilla to marry his father, how Camilla "wormed" her way in.

And to be honest, the man's got nothing to loose now has he, so I'm inclined to believe him about Camilla.

I don't think he will say it was her though, because maybe that would be, in his eyes the final nail in the coffin for his and his dad's relationship to announce The Queen Consort as racist.

Could be that. Or could be he's a whining, self-pitying, petty tosser.

In the wake of The Queen’s death H and M didn’t want the book published and were desperately trying to stop it, but they’d already accepted an advance…….is what I read anyway.

It seems to me this interview was Harry trying to do a spot of back-peddling, some damage control. Like him and his wife and their team had underestimated the popularity of the monarchy and the way the country rallied following The Queen’s passing. Not to mention they had to mix with them at the funeral etc knowing full well what he’d put in his book. Maybe he realised they’d gone too far. Hence the talk of reconciliation and “we didn’t call anybody racist”.

However, it really looks like he’s lost any credibility he had.

The award was for the two of them doing charitable stuff over the years, including what they did before they met. I though the ‘exposing racism in the royal family’ was in the Kerry(?) Kennedy speech? Willing to be corrected.

I think unconscious bias can be racist. Just because we don’t realise we are saying a racist thing does not mean we aren’t racist, in my opinion. Once our unconscious bias is pointed out to us we can change. Or the more we set ourselves to learning about racism in all its forms, the more we can examine how we think and thus challenge our biases. Because with knowledge comes consciousness.

Aww, I love Camilla and Charles. They're always so happy together. He loved her and the heart wants what the heart wants. It's been 30 years. Time to let it go.

I remember a clip of Prince Philip from the time responding to a member of the public saying “you need to look after those boys” or something else similar (but equally as cheeky) with “that’s what we were trying to do”.

@HiHoHiHohoho agree that brittle is a good description.

I hear college fees are expensive out there. 😁

He was the new king. They were showing him they cared.

Also, whose fault was it Harry, with all the resources in the world and lots of friends was eating takeaway over the sink? I can see why women were wary (until M) if he essentially hadn't embarked on adult domestic life.

Same. I think she comes across quite well as Queen Consort. I think H and M saying she was leaking stories to the press is another big misjudgement from them - playing on the perception that the public don’t like her, Diana was a saint blah blah blah - when in fact people have moved on and if they haven’t quite accepted her, well she’s here to stay.

I absolutely agree with your second paragraph in relation to how things should be. No argument there whatsoever.

My problem is that the OW interview was a worldwide bombshell, with an incredibly clear inference, which was picked to pieces then and since. At NO point have H&M piped up to say that how it was being received was incorrect. And then, almost 2 years later, it’s just casually dropped in that oh no, never said they were racist. That is what has boggled my mind somewhat.

Hundreds of posts/threads on here about the vile racist royal family. I know I really wanted them to name who had been racist, no way I want to support someone like that. And yet now, after this interview, it suddenly seems to be ok as they didn’t expressly say racism?

I now definitely have more of a problem with any accusations that Harry comes out with - because this whole situation makes no sense now.

I think it a pretty spiteful thing to be so mealie mouthed and vague with an accusation of ‘unconscious bias’ in order invite speculation from all and sundry.

I don’t want to indulge anyone who tries that sort of shite.

Seemed like back pedalling. He was also trying to minimise what he’s written that it wasn’t scathing and intention not to hurt etc. They’ve made a lot of money, and now want back in. That way they get to keep that cash instead of spend it on security and maintenance. That then solves their security bill and will make them relevant again. Even they know they can’t keep selling family gossip, it’s already running out. Looks like they’re trying to still push for the in/out model they wanted in the first place.

Agreed Camilla and Charles suit one another. They should have been allowed to be together in the first place. Not having senior Royals at the time having him sent away with the Navy. And her thinking he wasn't interested.
She's also doing some good charity work herself.

Let it go Harry your Dad is allowed to be happy too.

My problem is that the OW interview was a worldwide bombshell, with an incredibly clear inference, which was picked to pieces then and since. At NO point have H&M piped up to say that how it was being received was incorrect. And then, almost 2 years later, it’s just casually dropped in that oh no, never said they were racist. That is what has boggled my mind somewhat.

Indeed.

And yet they expect others to jump to their defence when horrible things are said about them.

It works both ways 🤷🏻‍♀️

If there was racism he should call it out properly. Now it looks like something was misconstrued on purpose cos they had an axe to grind. If he’s covering for racism, that’s awful and he’s complicit and is a hypocrite. If they lied and exaggerated cos they were having a tantrum and wanted to teach them a lesson, and secure big contracts with media outlets who would think they had actual scandal to reveal, that’s pretty low. What a damp squib tho, all comes down to he said she said, diamond tiaras and stressful wedding family dramas. What a merry dance they’ve led everyone on. And if he hates the media so much he shouldn’t keep feeding them and creating the frenzy - and the organisations he’s made deals with are media outlets. So he’s gotten into bed with the devil himself. To borrow his phrase.

Wasn’t she still Diana , Princess of Wales or something? Would she have been Queen Mother if still alive when William ascended the throne?

At any rate the boys walkabout and the size of the funeral seemed to have a lot to do with the public demands and media demands. Not sure which demanded it first but it was viewed as an example of almost national hysteria by some. The British, (esp the English), had this reputation of being very buttoned up, stiff upper lip etc., but turned out they weren’t. They can be about as emotional as people anywhere.

It was very sad, terrible time for those boys and Diana’s family members.

I thought she left of her own volition? Also H was making out that the Press had been unfair to SH, , that she was really a sweet old lady. However the person who caused the huge backlash was the lady she insulted not the Press or the Palace. SH apologises personally, as she should have done. Then H and M were reportedly furious that they hadn’t had an apology. What a tangled web.

Just read the transcript of the 60 minutes ‘interview’
Pretty much same questions, although no pushback at all from Andersen Cooper.

Tom Brady did try and do a bit of journalism, he definitely got a scoop with the ‘not racist’ comments.

Here if anyone is interested:

www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-interview-transcript-60-minutes-2023-01-08/

Because the public would have gone apeshit. The hysteria was insane. Big companies were being castigated for not flying flags at half mast. Taxi firms were delivering flowers to Kensington Palace from all over the country. The week after her death was collective madness. If there had been any suggestion of her not getting a state funeral the lynch mobs would have been out.

Absolutely!

Thank you picturesofdogs 👍🏼