Tiara-gate unveiled (shameless pun)

[Legrandetraitor]

The fact that meghan said, and Harry believed, she had spent “hours and hours” with dressmakers getting the original scalloped tiara to match the scallop veil edge shows, IMO, one of two things:

1. meghan is a wild exaggerator and Harry is stupid. I had a high end dress custom made for my wedding. For this type of thing she would just need to hand over to the extremely experienced professionals. Meghan would have no input to this.
2. meghan is an enormous control freak who stood over them for hours to make sure it was perfect

Harry trying to paint this unbelievably first world issue as arduous is yet another example of how ludicrously out of touch with reality she is. Poor Meghan, she went with another diamond tiara and hours of her time were wasted. I mean she had to take off time from her busy schedule of borrowing lipglosses and battling Willy’s finger to boss dressmakers around.

there is also an amusing quote somewhere about how Harry reassured Charles Meghan would not be a large cost addition for him as she “makes her own clothes”. Did she borrow her entire character from Snow White? Seal singing, dress making?

She can get married in whatever the hell she likes. It's not crass at all.

Nice to see that Harry’s pageboy hat was recycled by Meghan for HMQ’s funeral.

And remember she doesn't have a large appetite so wouldn't be expensive to feed.

I wonder what Meghan thinks to her veil now now that the commonwealth was classed as Empire 2.0 in their tv show?

YES, yes, yes.😁

I was given her second book, all about the clothes and the fabrics and cleaning the jewels in the tiaras. Loved it, and I like what I have gleaned about her.

I’m inclined to believe their story that the Spencer tiara was originally chosen. I believe the delicate flowers and filigree compliment the Spencer tiara. It’s not an exact match no but thats because Meghan decided that it would be appropriate to have every Commonwealth wildflowers on the veil. You know, as you do.

The Queen Mary bandeau that she did wear, is Art Deco in style. Absolutely beautiful and much more reflective of Meghan's style, which is usually clean and simple lines. However, the bandeau and the veil did not compliment one another and clashed awfully. You had romantic/delicate/scalloped veil teamed with a striking Art Deco bandeau. It makes sense that there was a change because it looked awful to be honest. A plain veil would have worked better but clearly too much time and money had gone into making the veil. There was no going back, especially as they had to fight to be allowed to wear a veil.

So why change from the Spencer to the bandeau?

I think Charles and William would most definitely have not wanted Meghan to wear the tiara. Charles, as it would be a reminder of his wedding to Diana. William as I think he would have been uncomfortable Meghan wearing the tiara his mother wore on her wedding day. I think they would have persuaded the Queen to give other options as she could probably see how it would make things uncomfortable.

Why then did Meghan switch when she had already matched her veil?

• I genuinely think they were bowled over by the gesture from the Queen. Especially as she had already allowed concessions like the beard and felt obligated
• The Spencer tiara isn’t the most attractive and the bandeau is more Meghans style
• The most pressing reason I believe is that as a senior royal, this could be seen as the ‘Meghan’ tiara to be worn at state occasions etc and may even be gifted to her in future. Many royal brides on their wedding are gifted a tiara. Princess Anne was given a Tiara by her mother. It’s clear that Meghan would never be given the Spencer tiara (which would also continue to be worn by others of the clan). The Diamond bandeau that wasn’t worn by any other senior royal, had the potential to become hers, even if not gifted but at least marked as hers to wear at state dinner etc.

Would the same apply to the Spencer tiara?

it’s owned by Earl Spencer but Diana’s sisters offered it to Harry for Meghan to wear.

I read at the time Meghan wanted the Vladimir tiara but was told no because of its Russian connections. Apparently it was smuggled out of Russia after the fall of the Tsar. The tiara Eugenie wore was the Greville tiara.

My parents (Dad divorced, ex wife alive) married in church in 1967. They got a retiring vicar to agree. There had been no adultery (at least, not with each other - my Dad was a serial shagger, though).

The Queen wore the Vladimir a lot, I doubt it was ever likely to be worn by Meghan.

The Commonwealth flowers is a lovely touch coming from a couple who despise the Commonwealth as much as Harry and Meghan do.

I wonder why Meghan wanted symbols of the racist commonwealth on her veil?

Her hair was badly done on the day. I think it was meant to be chic and simple but it looked messy and not done properly.

Her hairdresser must have been quite embarrassed.

Charles, as it would be a reminder of his wedding to Diana.

I really don’t think this is a reason. Didn’t William give Kate the engagement ring that Charles had given Diana? I’m not sure a tiara worn by lots of different people is more likely to invoke sentiment than an engagement ring.

What was beautiful was Diana's aquamarine ring worn with the halter neck dress for the evening.
She looked amazing then.

Has she worn that ring often since?
I'd wear it all the time!

Orangefir, you speculations sound the most likely in my view. Harry has obviously not given the full details. I appreciate you say the tiara Meghan wore didn’t match the veil but I really liked its simplicity and clean lines - and which as you say was reflective of Meghan’s style.

Agree that ring was gorgeous. I think I have seen Meghan wear it again but can’t say for certain.

No, as said upthread, there's no problem with the provenance, the late Queen wore it often. No issues.

I love this! On the day I was super happy for them but (very very low-key, and felt bad for thinking it…) noticed the tiara and the rest of the look were super clashy. The dress material was too heavy (especially for the summer month) and the structure stiff, and the fit was really off. Honestly a terrible dress by a design house. The veil was absolutely lush and flowery but didn’t suit the heavy dress material at all, the tiara was as you say Art Deco with a sharp geometric design. I actually didn’t like the tiara much at all, it looks just very harsh and silver, no noticeable diamonds. The tiara and the dress style are not timeless and their styles clashed. Then compare that clashing look with her incredible evening gown with the aquamarine ring… looked effortless and just stunning.

Her wedding makeup and hairstyle were also super… like anaemic looking? Meghan is naturally very striking but the markup somehow made her look kind of washed out, and her hairstyle was super meh. I really did judge her team as how did they manage that on such a pretty woman?! Look at literally any other photos of her at any other event (and the wedding evening event) and she looks great, but the daytime wedding look was very poor.

(FYI I think she’s probably fine but he’s super problematic)

I agree @Backstreetsbackalrightdadada

She always looks stunning but the look just wasn’t put together properly. The hair/make up and design choices. It appears everything was rushed. Which makes sense as we have also heard 4 days before the wedding and the flower girl dresses didn’t fit properly. Which was also obvious on the day, poor Charlotte

She wore it quite recently with an off-the-shoulder white dress at the Ripple of Hope awards in NYC.

Totally agree OP! And PP! And the worst is that they are so ungrateful and don’t see any of the irony to any of what they are doing. OP you have summed it all up very well on this thread. They are either :
unhinged
bitter
narcissistic
selfish
dishonest
hurtful
difficult
or all of the above .

There still could be another Greville emerald tiara. Dame Greville was an extremely rich heiress and known social climber. She was known for her expensive collection of jewellery. Lots of Russians jewels were bought by the rich and artistos after the revolution. A large collection was inherited by the Queen mother. This came to her personally. We don’t know the exact contents of what was given. So who knows what else could have been in there

@Florissant

Marrying a nineteen year old virgin because your father ordered you to, despite the fact that you were already well and truly spoken for is pretty crass too.

Great forensic analysis there!

I'm inclined to think it is a mixture of b) and c) I have some vague memory of a dodgily provenanced tiara (not the one with the interchangeable carved emerald/sapphire centre, Queen Mary and I think Margaret wore that one a few times) but can't remember the details. I think the Greville had definitely been reserved for Eugenie by that point.

TBH I think much Googling may have gone on and I'm putting money on the desired object possibly being the Vladimir with the Cambridge emerald drops. Wasn't going to happen, but might have been worth the risk of abandoning the Spencer if it was thought possible.

I'm hoping Angela Kelly is holed up writing her third book and that will have the definitive account of tiaragate.