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The royal family

Tiara-gate unveiled (shameless pun)

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Legrandetraitor · 07/01/2023 16:11

The fact that meghan said, and Harry believed, she had spent “hours and hours” with dressmakers getting the original scalloped tiara to match the scallop veil edge shows, IMO, one of two things:

  1. meghan is a wild exaggerator and Harry is stupid. I had a high end dress custom made for my wedding. For this type of thing she would just need to hand over to the extremely experienced professionals. Meghan would have no input to this.
  2. meghan is an enormous control freak who stood over them for hours to make sure it was perfect

Harry trying to paint this unbelievably first world issue as arduous is yet another example of how ludicrously out of touch with reality she is. Poor Meghan, she went with another diamond tiara and hours of her time were wasted. I mean she had to take off time from her busy schedule of borrowing lipglosses and battling Willy’s finger to boss dressmakers around.

there is also an amusing quote somewhere about how Harry reassured Charles Meghan would not be a large cost addition for him as she “makes her own clothes”. Did she borrow her entire character from Snow White? Seal singing, dress making?

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Shelefttheweb · 07/01/2023 21:34

diddl · 07/01/2023 19:39

The now King was not allowed to marry in a church as a divorcee.

Not allowed by whom?

I married in church as a divorcee in 1995.

If your former spouse was still alive and your marriage took place in a Church of England church then your vicar broke the rules - marriage of divorcees were only allowed in 2002 and then only if the individuals in question had not contributed to the breakdown of their former marriages. Hence whilst Charles’ former spouse had died, Camilla’s had not and they had both contributed to the breakdown of their former marriages.

Shelefttheweb · 07/01/2023 21:37

diddl · 07/01/2023 20:21

So why didn't they I wonder!

Hookworms?

RosesAndHellebores · 07/01/2023 21:39

Most well bred County girls or even nice ordinary girls would be chuffed and delighted to have a choice of tiaras.

Only an entitled, vulgar upstart with an over inflated opinion of herself would have an issue over compromising over tiaras.

I'm not sure if Harry deserves Meghan or Meghan deserves Harry. Harry is thick and dim. Meghan is a bit Kardashian, calculated, experienced and ambitious. I'm not sure of one is enabling the other or if it's mutual. Either way, and rather like Diana, I think they would both have benefit from six months on the 22nd floor of a tower block.

Funnily enough rather like Margaret's children, their DC may turn out to be refreshingly grounded despite the excesses and dysfunctionality of their parents.

CPL593H · 07/01/2023 21:43

I got married in 2000 and my husband had been married before (amicable spilt years before I met him, we actually went to his ex wife's wedding reception) I had not been married before but we would not have been allowed to marry in the C of E. Didn't even ask.

Shelefttheweb · 07/01/2023 21:45

Mañanarama · 07/01/2023 21:04

I would not be surprised if she and Andrew quietly remarry now.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they already had.

Serenster · 07/01/2023 21:45

I can’t help but think of the woman who married the main descendant of the deposed Albanian monarchy a few years ago. She was given the family tiara to wear, and it had a diamond encrusted ram’s head as the main motif. 🤣 Still, you can’t exactly say “thanks but no thanks…”

Shelefttheweb · 07/01/2023 21:49

It is interested to hear how tiaras are reworked or even have all their diamonds stripped out for a new piece. Just seen Sophie’s one at her wedding - apparently made from exchangeable bits of a circlet of Queen Victoria’s that no longer exists. It looked like it needed more reworking.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 07/01/2023 21:50

Leaving aside the sartorial traditions re: second marriages, It really was a beautiful veil, the flowers of the commonwealth was a lovely idea (would’ve been better if Meghan was actually from a commonwealth country!) and clearly took hours and hours of expert craftsmanship.

I just can’t see how the story re: the Spencer tiara marries up with the reality of the veil itself?

www.royal.uk/wedding-dress-bridesmaids’-dresses-and-page-boys-uniforms

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HoppingAndHoping · 07/01/2023 21:51

Serenster · 07/01/2023 21:45

I can’t help but think of the woman who married the main descendant of the deposed Albanian monarchy a few years ago. She was given the family tiara to wear, and it had a diamond encrusted ram’s head as the main motif. 🤣 Still, you can’t exactly say “thanks but no thanks…”

There actually seems to be some really interesting history attached to it! At least according to 6 minutes of googling...😅

orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2016/04/tiara-thursday-queen-geraldines-diamond.html?m=1

royalwatcherblog.com/2016/10/07/sapphire-goat-tiara/

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 07/01/2023 21:57

The goat tiara is GOAT!

Soapnutty · 07/01/2023 21:57

Also it fails to mention why Meghan was ultimately denied the Greville tiara she had wanted to wear,

To be fair that could be the tabloids making that bit up. They may have heard there was some fracas about the tiaras - which Harry has confirmed there was - but not got the full detail on what was involved. Who knows.

….that she meant for Meghan to bring her hairdresser to the palace for a practice session and not for her to take the priceless diamond tiara to Super Cuts in her hand bag.

The image you created there cracked me up 😂😂😂

TheRubyRedshoes · 07/01/2023 21:58

It's a great shame she didn't honour the Spencers and Diana and go with that tiara but also...that side of the family. ..

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2023 21:59

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 07/01/2023 21:50

Leaving aside the sartorial traditions re: second marriages, It really was a beautiful veil, the flowers of the commonwealth was a lovely idea (would’ve been better if Meghan was actually from a commonwealth country!) and clearly took hours and hours of expert craftsmanship.

I just can’t see how the story re: the Spencer tiara marries up with the reality of the veil itself?

www.royal.uk/wedding-dress-bridesmaids’-dresses-and-page-boys-uniforms

That's what I was saying upthread - it doesn't seem to have anything which looks like it was matched to the Spencer Tiara. And isn't Harry's version that the tiara swap was quite close to the wedding?

Very odd

diddl · 07/01/2023 21:59

If your former spouse was still alive and your marriage took place in a Church of England church then your vicar broke the rules - marriage of divorcees were only allowed in 2002

A friend of mine married a divorcee in church in the late 80s.

In both cases the Bishop of our diocese was consulted.

AutumnCrow · 07/01/2023 22:00

Shelefttheweb · 07/01/2023 21:37

Hookworms?

It's all gone a bit Hookland more like.

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2023 22:01

HoppingAndHoping · 07/01/2023 21:51

There actually seems to be some really interesting history attached to it! At least according to 6 minutes of googling...😅

orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2016/04/tiara-thursday-queen-geraldines-diamond.html?m=1

royalwatcherblog.com/2016/10/07/sapphire-goat-tiara/

We need a british version - highland cow perhaps?

AllIwantforChristmas22 · 07/01/2023 22:04

frugalkitty · 07/01/2023 21:32

And, while I'm at it, I can't see what the fuss about trying the tiara with the hairdresser was all about either given that it looked like they'd just shoved her hair into a messy low bun and pulled extra stands out. The tiara was just on top of her head, not tucked into an elaborate hairdo.

😂😂😂 spot on

AutumnCrow · 07/01/2023 22:09

HoppingAndHoping · 07/01/2023 21:51

There actually seems to be some really interesting history attached to it! At least according to 6 minutes of googling...😅

orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2016/04/tiara-thursday-queen-geraldines-diamond.html?m=1

royalwatcherblog.com/2016/10/07/sapphire-goat-tiara/

Queen Susan and Queen Geraldine and the goat's head tiara. Mate I'm in Narnia now wif the fawns in me head Grin

Cocolapew · 07/01/2023 22:11

This has been an interesting thread.
There's going to be a demand for tiaras now 😄, I want one to go to Asda in.

CPL593H · 07/01/2023 22:14

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2023 22:01

We need a british version - highland cow perhaps?

Give me a tiara and I'd be quite happy for it to be made up of seals holding sheet music

JADS · 07/01/2023 22:18

I would wear both the sheep and the goat tiara. I'm not fussy.

Thank you for all the tiara links.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 07/01/2023 22:19

Tbh, I’d wear any of the tiaras. I’ve never worn any real diamonds 😢

Vermin · 07/01/2023 22:20

This all sounds like another Hollywood vs British Royal Family dissociation in megs’ mind. It’s not unusual for celebs to be loaned jewellery which comes with its own security guard for the night. There are films based on it. Minor sleds borrow terrible chopard jewels for film premieres and their style oats are allowed to practice with them as the jewellery house sends a goon over to guard them (and normally they’re removed after the red carpet element and replaced with CZ or similar).

megs presumably was aware of that and failed to understand that, unlike Messrs. Cartier / Chopard et al, the Crown Jewels do not need PR in magazines and therefore don’t need the publicity of being hawked around town with obvious security, & that they have a value attached to them beyond their constituent parts that an unarmed guard can be justified to stand by them in Supercuts while the atylist practices.

clearly she was never going to compromise with plastic from Claire’s Accessories but that story is yet another coming out if this that makes the Wales’ seem very cool. And Angela Kelly.

airguitarrrr · 07/01/2023 22:34

God, I was initially really sympathetic to H and M. Felt that they needed to just STOP after the Oprah interview and now it's just head in my hands territory.

This story just reads like Meghan snubbed the opportunity to involve the MIL she never met in the ceremony and that's really sad.

On another note, the story did make me wonder how Harry gets on with the Spencers these days. I always got the sense that Diana's brother was there for those boys.

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2023 22:46

Weren't there several stories suggesting that Earl Spencer advised against marrying Meghan - on multiple occasions?