Kate & Meghan relationship - Spare

[SnottyLottie]

So it look like the following Kate & Meghan tidbits have been released from Harry’s book.

They include:

• Meghan forgot to bring lipgloss to an event and asked to borrow Kate’s. Kate reluctantly obliged but pulled a disgusted face when she saw Meghan dabbed the gloss with her finger
• Kate told Meghan there was a problem with the bridesmaids’ dresses - said they were too big and Charlotte cried when she tried hers on - and was advised by her own fashion house/tailor that the dresses needed completely remaking (this is a week before the wedding). Meghan tried to solve the problem with the palace tailor - but the stress of the bridesmaid issues caused her to break down into tears. Harry also confirms that Kate later apologised and bought her flowers.
• Harry & Meghan seemed jealous that William & Kate’s house was decorated with priceless art and heirlooms whilst they had to furnish their house with IKEA furniture and buy items on Meghan’s credit card
• Kate seems to have assumed that Meghan was hinting that she wanted to use Kate’s connections in the fashion industry. This was a miscommunication as Meghan actually already had her own connections.
• William & Kate felt disgruntled that Harry & Meghan hadn’t sent them an Easter gift.
• Kate had forgotten something and Meghan told her not to worry about it because of pregnancy hormones. Kate said the two of them weren’t close enough to talk about her hormones - Meghan said this is a comment she would make to her own friends - William points his finger at Meghan and tells her “these things aren’t done here” which Meghan didn’t take well

Most of it seems pretty petty (from both sides) to be honest. Although I think I would pull a face if someone fingered my lipgloss. But yeah, just two women, completely different backgrounds and personalities, having minor disputes and realising they’re not compatible with each other.

The only other thing I thought is perhaps the animosity is more between William & Meghan, and Harry and Kate are siding with their partners?

Racism doesn’t have to be overt or even conscious. It can be a feeling of entitlement that the other person should be subservient.

However in this Kate might have had those feelings of entitlement for other reasons. It makes no difference to the outcome, specially since media attacks were certainly racist and palace largely left Meghan unprotected.

Why don’t you take your own advice then rather than going on to gossip and speculate…..?

If the K&M “rift” was just media hype then MM wouldn’t have chosen to exacerbate a non story with her comments on OW and NF about K. She would have done the opposite surely to prove the media wrong?

That’s exactly what you have done on this thread repeatedly spewing your vitriol about W&K.

No knickers twisted - I am a republican.

Just calling you out on your repeated hypocrisy when you tell others to be silent but you yourself spew bile at others.

Why blame Meghan? Look at Prince Andrew and the infamous interview which he thought went well. The Royal Family have no idea of life on the outside of their insulated bubble.

I wouldn't ask to use someone else's make up especially lip gloss.it all is very strange though, who knows what's really true?

No-one knows what happened in all these instances - and tbh we shouldn't, it should have been all kept private. I wouldn't want any family disagreement dragged out as its hard enough getting on with families and in-laws anyway.

My guess is that some of those involved would not have chosen each other as friends , and that is true of many, many families. I think its been hauled now into the public domain with the added allegation of racism which from what we have seen reported so far seems to be non-existent.

Sadly I think the family will take along time to recover - I have reflected on my own family and when there was one big upset for which me and my husband were being blamed (in my view we were not to blame) I just carried on ignored it and continued to send birthday/christmas cards etc (the others didn't.) I didn't engage in tit for tat and eventually the whole episode passed (it took about a year of non-communication on their part.) The relationship is very good now - the only point I would say is that I am more wary of the family. I think if I was the rest of RF I would just rise above it and let it run its course. Hate is a very strong emotion and it eats you up - its not worth them getting annoyed but understandably they will be.

If Charlottes dress was a mess at the wedding that would have reflected badly in Meghan not Kate. Surely she would have wanted to be alerted to that issue? M’s own dress didn’t fit well either.

If Meghan thought Kate was being racist, she'd have told Harry. Harry would have written so in his memoire.

If Meghan thought that Kate was make her feel subservient, she'd have told Harry. Harry would have written so I'm his memoire.

Kate didn't like the fit of the dress and wanted it changing. Period. Shevwasnt putting anyone down, she just wanted the dress to fit.

Personally, I think 4 days before a wedding, it put a lot of pressure on meghan. And Kate was right to say sorry and give flowers. Having said that, it's not like Meghan was sewing through midnight on the eve of her wedding. She just had to pick up a phone and ring someone

As Harry said, they both made each other cry, they both apologised

Not everything you dislike or upsets you or annoys you or frustrates you is racist.

Oooo, no. I wouldn't miss all this for the world. So many funny comments by MNers. Who'd have thought Harry could be this funny?!

The issue is that Kate did not like the bridesmaids dresses. There was seamstresses to make alterations, but Kate did not think that was enough.

A bridesmaid dress would not have reflected badly on anyone. Everyone would have said Charlotte looked cute - which she did.

We already heard KM version. It was that MM made her cry, and she let that run. With the panelist (like Carole Malone) shouting on TV that MM made 'our future queen' cry.

She never corrected any of it.

I don't think we have heard both sides of the story - we have a dignified silence. Others might have been vocal in the media but they were doing what the media figures do ie offer their opinion.

I think silence is the best policy neither correcting or denying - that does not make something accurate

How can you assert that with such authority were you in the room when it happened?

What’s your source?

Everyone agrees there was a seamstress there to make alterations.
But Kate thought that wasn't enough and the dress should be remade. The dress was not remade and Charlotte looked cute.

Where and when did you hear this from Kates mouth?

Please don’t tell me you use the tabloids and SM as your source?

Don't be daft.
Did you trot over to Kate's house and hear it from her mouth then?

It’s just a load of nothing. K + M don’t get on, so what. I don’t see the point of putting such minimal things in a book. M + H seem like over dramatic sensationalists who idealise their own victim status. They had to buy their own furniture on credit…like the rest of us poor folk? Wasn’t M a millionaire before? Didn’t they have furniture from previous places they’d lived, I mean they were in their mid-30?

I suspect this was put in deliberately .

Something about H&M arriving at Tyler Perry with suitcases and no where to go. Something about Charles using money access to control H&M. He pulled security and money. H was 12 when Diana died, meaning that the signatures for the fund were with Charles? He was not taking his calls at the time, I wonder if was the one needed to release the money .

In general, I think H was at the mercy of his family for funds in general. I think he was given a small amount for his 'services' . Probably using his army pension (MM told to go and work? because they can't afford her, what was that all about) and his rich friends 'benefits' for his party life.

So yes, as a spare he was relegated to maids quarters and such.

So much for MM being a gold digger if she stayed while buying furniture on her credit card. I live in central London and people around here, get their furniture custom made. H&M were living in a shack by comparison, while the rest of the world went on about how privileged they were. MM lived in much more luxury before by comparison.

Harry reportedly refused to pay for Cressida's plane ticket to a friend's wedding at one time. He sounds a bit tight.

Who is everyone?

What is your source and your evidence for this claim?