Kate & Meghan relationship - Spare

[SnottyLottie]

So it look like the following Kate & Meghan tidbits have been released from Harry’s book.

They include:

• Meghan forgot to bring lipgloss to an event and asked to borrow Kate’s. Kate reluctantly obliged but pulled a disgusted face when she saw Meghan dabbed the gloss with her finger
• Kate told Meghan there was a problem with the bridesmaids’ dresses - said they were too big and Charlotte cried when she tried hers on - and was advised by her own fashion house/tailor that the dresses needed completely remaking (this is a week before the wedding). Meghan tried to solve the problem with the palace tailor - but the stress of the bridesmaid issues caused her to break down into tears. Harry also confirms that Kate later apologised and bought her flowers.
• Harry & Meghan seemed jealous that William & Kate’s house was decorated with priceless art and heirlooms whilst they had to furnish their house with IKEA furniture and buy items on Meghan’s credit card
• Kate seems to have assumed that Meghan was hinting that she wanted to use Kate’s connections in the fashion industry. This was a miscommunication as Meghan actually already had her own connections.
• William & Kate felt disgruntled that Harry & Meghan hadn’t sent them an Easter gift.
• Kate had forgotten something and Meghan told her not to worry about it because of pregnancy hormones. Kate said the two of them weren’t close enough to talk about her hormones - Meghan said this is a comment she would make to her own friends - William points his finger at Meghan and tells her “these things aren’t done here” which Meghan didn’t take well

Most of it seems pretty petty (from both sides) to be honest. Although I think I would pull a face if someone fingered my lipgloss. But yeah, just two women, completely different backgrounds and personalities, having minor disputes and realising they’re not compatible with each other.

The only other thing I thought is perhaps the animosity is more between William & Meghan, and Harry and Kate are siding with their partners?

And yet I'd expect Kate to take a view similar to my own - children get too much chocolate at Easter and don't need massive eggs from every visitor/relation who visits.

So I doubt they'd be offended at the lack of proffered gifts.

"Had to endure" - a problem with a 3 year olds dress. Hardly torture, is it?

Given this is very much H&M's take, we don't know why Kate refused to bring her, if she did at all. It sounds like trivial crap twisted to try and make it look as bad as possible and even then all that it manages is "she was maybe a bit awkward".

She might also have been right about it needing remade, I sew a lot and if something is massively big you can end up having to remake.

I wouldn't want to share a lipgloss but in that situation I'd just tell the person borrowing that they could keep it.

Harry and Meghan have the opposite of the Midas touch. They turn everything they touch to ashes. This would have been the moment to show how much bigger, kinder and more fabulous they are… to focus on the good things about their special day, instead of giving life to the tabloid accounts and rehashing (after all these years) all the petty squabbles and stresses that everyone getting married experiences at the time and forgets about later on.

They come across as envious, petty and self obsessed, have squandered all the opportunities they were given, particularly to represent non-white populations and make a difference to their lives.

I don't see anything wrong here and there's nothing saying Kate is awful from the book. It's all pointing only to them being very different people.

It's just the press making it out it's the women fighting. It sounds like it's just brothers at war.

Am I the only person on the planet who would happily share lip gloss with someone who looks pretty clean?

Anyway, all this tiny stuff is pathetic, what a prat he is

I also wouldn't have a problem sharing lipgloss with someone

Turning in to godzilla... your imagination is running away with you there. I don't think, from what has been released, that even Harry claims that's the case.

Gosh these all sound so petty, I can't believe someone allowed them to put this in a book. I feel embarrassed for them

Sharing lipgloss, gross! That's why so many people have coldsores/ herpes, basic hygiene standards lacking 🤢

The only interesting thing about all this is how much detail there is. Seriously how many of posters' DH/DP would remember so many precise little details about interactions between their wives and SiLs?
I wouldn’t remember myself and I’m very good at remembering interactions. No way my DH would remember something like this next week ( next day in reality)

Not a major Meghan fan but Kate sounds hard work from this angle.

DDs flower girl dress was too large for her when she was 3. I pinned it up myself, easy peasy, and I don’t sew or have any staff. I didn’t see it as the bride’s problem to solve.

But then perhaps Kate was afraid NOT to run the dress by Meghan as the wedding would be so public? Was Meghan super-controlling about how the bridesmaids should look?

Who knows?

I'm guessing (looking at the style of the dress) that too big didn't just mean too long, but too wide as well - too long would have not been a big deal as it's a style which would probably look fine anywhere between knee and ankle. If it needed taken in substantially then I think it would have been quite a big job and would have basically involved dismantling the dress. I'm only going by not great pictures online though.

One of my kids is really sensitive to the fit of stuff and has been since she was quite small. If something feel wrong she would spend the whole day pulling at it, whinging and generally being a mardy pain in the arse. Or she'd just remove it... If Charlotte was crying when she tried it on then it seems possible she's that kind of kid.

Given the situation - she was going to be walking in to a church with 600+ people looking at her, with millions more watching on TV - then I would 100% have tried to get the dress fixed rather than risk a "my dress feels wrong" tantrum in my 3 year old.

Maybe Kate was just being a hard work grumpy moose, but it's also perfectly possible that she wasn't and was actually trying to avoid a drama on the day (which we'd never have heard the end of!)

In Kate’s position, I wouldn’t be particularly friendly to someone, who’s been involved with my husband’s family for all of 5 minutes, and had tantrums about tiaras (surely you’d be blown away by wearing any of the world famous Crown Jewels not having tantrums that you wanted to wear a specific one!) and been rude to staff (I’d be so grateful to them and thanking them constantly). I’d be like WhoTAF does she think she is and keep a wide berth.

The thing about the bridesmaids tights - I wouldn’t want my DD’s feet getting sore and sweaty from wearing shoes without socks or tights especially if shoes are new. I think the Mum of the child certainly should have a say about the comfort of their child and if I was a newcomer into a very famous traditional family, I think I’d take their advice on small things such as bridesmaids wearing tights!

Lipgloss - can’t imagine asking the future Queen to borrow hers, especially if I’d only met her a few times. They would have had staff at these events who could have sourced one surely!

Meghan seems to be insistent that Harry’s family should behave like the average family on the street hence her also insisting that she knew nothing about them and that it was reasonable to meet them in ripped jeans and barefoot. How ignorant and arrogant can you actually be!

All the stuff about Kate is textbook narcissistic jealousy.

I agree.

It wasn't Meghan or Harry that leaked this story to begin with.

Catherine had just given birth. She was likely exhausted.

Meghan was trying to finalize a wedding that millions of people were watching while her relationship with her father was breaking down.

Of course they were going to intersect at some point.

My opinion is that if the palace leaks were plugged to begin with, we wouldn't need to be reading this.

Its just an account of what happened. She may well have made a disgusted face if she'd just used the gloss directly on her lips. I think she was probably grossed out by sharing lip gloss however it was applied. There's always going to be a transfer of bacteria.

I do not care about this petty stuff, but it does make me laugh how people keep being sure of what they think these strangers would do or think.

I said at the time that the media were not telling the truth and the real fall out was between the brothers, not the wives.
The media said it was the wives to explain the obvious lack of closeness between the couples. Because they were still hiding that the brothers had fallen out.
The incidents between the wives are just everyday petty stuff that every family has.

Meh, I have 5 sisters in law and none of them are particularly my cup of tea, not much in common except our spouses, but we get along politely at family occasions. That's just life, isn't it.

So some people would share lip gloss and some wouldn’t?
Meghan would, Kate would rather not, but does, then pulls a face.
Kate could have said that she would rather not?

Sadly I don’t think Harry is very well and his wife is the puppet Master to a certain extent
however he’s a grown man … he just seems extremely naive and not very intelligent. Especially spilling his guts about killing 25 Taliban ….he’s compromised every singe royal and his own family and the coronation will now have to double up with security, wether he goes or not

Oh, let it fricking go. It's bloody bridesmaid dresses of 3 year old who won't remember and wont care. Harry says they both made the other cry and they both apologised. Even Harry with all his spite and hate doesn't say there was anything racist in what happened.

And after seeing what Harrys like in his book, it's safe to say we're ALL glad they left!

Exactly this. They really need the money. Between their need for security and loyalty to a family that didn’t care for their wellbeing, it is an easy choice. But when you drag your family to mud, you yourself bound to get muddy.

I am surprised that the father didn’t attempt to broker a peace. Even if they didn’t like Meghan they should have protected her.