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I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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ssd · 06/01/2023 12:21

I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

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user146539089 · 07/05/2023 13:07

No @Bugeyedowl the actual news. It’s pretty well reported

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 13:28

AuroraCake · 06/05/2023 23:19

Others were without partners too. It’s just he doesn’t get in with the family.

Well it would be us paying the security bill so no thank you. And I am sure they do a lot of fudging of publicised accounts but no one would be happy when Charles account st were realised to see he was paying a couple of million on Harry’s security. And in fairness he isn’t lavish with the money. He refused to give Harry more.

What’s done is done.

But the idea that if Charles had continued to support Harry, that this would have been paid by the taxpayer is incorrect. Charles is an extremely wealthy man in his own right. He could have paid from his own pocket. Whether Charles should paid have is debatable, but it’s really none of anyones business as it would not have been funded by the public.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/05/2023 13:33

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 12:49

Do you not read the news @Bugeyedowl? It’s fairly well established within US political circles Meghan is seriously wanting to run for President. I thought this was common knowledge.

It's far from that.

The couple's publications mean that they have got a reputation for indiscretion. The Party won't go near a candidate like that (you need to cut all sorts of deals on your way up the greasy pole, and people just won't do that with anyone with form for publishing tell-all accounts)

And she's not remotely rich enough to be an independent candidate.

Plus of course she's yet to have any form of representational position

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 13:34

Perhaps William is shy and reserved and Harry is an attention seeking loudmouth, who always wants to be the centre of attention?

so the opposite of ‘shy and reserved’ is ‘attention seeking and loudmouth’? lol

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 13:37

I think there’s a distinction between what she wants to do and what she’ll actually be able to do as far as her political ambitions are concerned. People seem to feel that Harry’s book has scuppered her chances. She needs the backing of the Obamas, which doesn’t seem to be forthcoming although Meghan has just hired Michelle’s publicist (or something like that). As for the money, I thought that was what the multimillion dollar deals with Netflix were about. She is building up her war chest so to speak. No idea how Americans currently view her. I assume she’s still fairly popular over there.

michaelmacrae · 07/05/2023 13:42

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 13:07

No @Bugeyedowl the actual news. It’s pretty well reported

It's all speculation from "sources" from what i can see. Meghan has zero experience in politics, you need to spend years on the ground building up your career. It's completely unrealistic, just another made-up thing to beat her up with.

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 13:43

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 12:49

Do you not read the news @Bugeyedowl? It’s fairly well established within US political circles Meghan is seriously wanting to run for President. I thought this was common knowledge.

“The News” - which media outlets have written that Meghan wants to be president? The only place I’ve seen this is on Twitter. It’s social media gossip, isn’t it?

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/05/2023 13:50

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 13:37

I think there’s a distinction between what she wants to do and what she’ll actually be able to do as far as her political ambitions are concerned. People seem to feel that Harry’s book has scuppered her chances. She needs the backing of the Obamas, which doesn’t seem to be forthcoming although Meghan has just hired Michelle’s publicist (or something like that). As for the money, I thought that was what the multimillion dollar deals with Netflix were about. She is building up her war chest so to speak. No idea how Americans currently view her. I assume she’s still fairly popular over there.

You need to be Ross Perot or Donald Trump levels of rich to launch a presidential campaign. Those Netflix deals don't come anywhere close to what would be needed.

And even then, of those two extremely rich men, only the one who hijacked a party's support got in.

Now, maybe she wants to head in to representational politics. We might see her following the footsteps of Clint Eastwood. I doubt she could emulate Arnie (whose spouse was a Kennedy family member and well-connected journalist, who AFAIK never published a memoir dishing the dirt on her family)

8roses · 07/05/2023 13:53

Who the hell would vote for Meghan Markle 😂😂😂

8roses · 07/05/2023 13:54

Seriously? She’s on the floor sobbing every five minutes and can’t keep her mouth shut about a lip gloss, never mind state secrets. And as for the husband 😂

TrashyPanda · 07/05/2023 13:55

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 13:34

Perhaps William is shy and reserved and Harry is an attention seeking loudmouth, who always wants to be the centre of attention?

so the opposite of ‘shy and reserved’ is ‘attention seeking and loudmouth’? lol

Perhaps read the whole post, which noted how a PP slagged William and praised Harry. This was reversing the roles.

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 13:58

My mistake.

Morestrangerthings · 07/05/2023 14:10

SecretsIWouldNeverTell · 07/05/2023 11:20

PMSL at @CreationNat1on 's post. AS IF Meghan would have stolen the show. Penny Mourdaunt was the one everyone was looking at for a while, it would not have been drab Meghan.

I agree about penny mordaunt but Meghan is hardly ‘drab.’ If she had come most mn posters on the RF threads would have had their eyes on her. As much as possible. Then come here to praise her or criticise her.

she didn’t come and I think it was a good move. For her own well-being.

its funny that she was not there but people are still speculating about her.

Whaeanui · 07/05/2023 14:10

as far as her political ambitions are concerned

She hasn’t said she has any. She’s not at all shown interest in it publicly. Any reports are tabloid and social media based.

queenofarles · 07/05/2023 14:20

It would've been Dior's US-based PR office who sorted out the outfit and the fittings would've been done in LA, not Paris.

that’s correct , Dior , Chanel etc.. usually have brand Ambassadors for each market, Beatrice Borromeo is a Dior Ambassdor, Jenni from Black pink is Chanel’s Asian market ambassador and appears on their Campaign, It’s very difficult to tell who gets paid and who just wants the publicity and free clothes, or both!

Meghan and Harry are probably not brand ambassador and just trade their status for free clothing, Meghan only looked great once in Dior back in 2019, her jubilee coat was a terrible fit on her , Harry never looked good in any of the suits, but atleast it gets circulated within their fans , which may lead to some sales in Dior products ,

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 07/05/2023 15:03

The thing is, he wouldn’t have wanted to be the heir. He’s made that perfectly obvious. He does, however, like to bleat on about being the ‘spare’.

Additionally, there’s the drug taking during his critical teenage/young adult years. They can, and do, induce paranoia, and altered memory.

I think that Harry exhibits some of this with his rantings and ‘my truths’, as he and MM like to call them.

Plenty of children lose a parent, and although they are not in the public eye, their trauma is no less. It’s not normal, as an adult, to put blame on everyone but yourself.

He should concentrate on continuing the good work that he does, and give up trying to get a reaction from his birth family.

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 15:03

Yes you have to have huge amounts of money behind you @WinnieTheW0rm but that comes from different sources usually. Obama isn’t close to being as rich as Trump. They campaign to raise funds in the first instance which is where the initial need for money comes in, if that makes sense.

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 15:08

I’m sorry @Whaeanui but that is simply not true. Meghan has worked quite hard to cultivate certain people who could help her politically. It’s a well known fact. It may be ‘speculation’ to say she wants to run for President but it’s based on some pretty unequivocal evidence of her having more than a passing interest. Having said that it may be for nothing if her popularity is not great in the US. I find them both very frustrating because they are the epitome of two people who have cooked their own goose.

Inkanta · 07/05/2023 15:15

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 15:08

I’m sorry @Whaeanui but that is simply not true. Meghan has worked quite hard to cultivate certain people who could help her politically. It’s a well known fact. It may be ‘speculation’ to say she wants to run for President but it’s based on some pretty unequivocal evidence of her having more than a passing interest. Having said that it may be for nothing if her popularity is not great in the US. I find them both very frustrating because they are the epitome of two people who have cooked their own goose.

I've read all your posts and you talk like you have insider information on all matters relating to Diana's private thoughts to Meghan's aspirations to be president of the United States. Some of your posts are angry and provocative. What's going on with you?

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 15:18

I’m not angry at all and not agreeing with other posters is not provocative. I don’t claim to have any insider information.

ily0xx · 07/05/2023 15:41

Diana put him into boarding school at eight years old, despite how traumatic she found it being forced to go to boarding school at seven years old, and before that he was raised by nannies whilst she had affairs (so did Charles too). Obviously losing a parent is horrendous but from eight to twelve he didn’t live with her.

Cherryblossoms85 · 07/05/2023 15:57

His therapist has a lot to answer for. But also he has chosen this path.

LadyEloise1 · 07/05/2023 16:03

ily0xx · 07/05/2023 15:41

Diana put him into boarding school at eight years old, despite how traumatic she found it being forced to go to boarding school at seven years old, and before that he was raised by nannies whilst she had affairs (so did Charles too). Obviously losing a parent is horrendous but from eight to twelve he didn’t live with her.

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WinnieTheW0rm · 07/05/2023 16:06

user146539089 · 07/05/2023 15:03

Yes you have to have huge amounts of money behind you @WinnieTheW0rm but that comes from different sources usually. Obama isn’t close to being as rich as Trump. They campaign to raise funds in the first instance which is where the initial need for money comes in, if that makes sense.

Obama didn't need to be personally rich, because he did not attempt to run as an independent. He secured a party nomination, after an impressive campaigning/legal career and stint in the legislature (ie getting that representational experience)

Barack Obama: Life Before the Presidency | Miller Center

Nearest example to Meghan's career to date would be Ronald Reagan (even though he's totally different political persuasion). He was not personally rich either (it really is only the independents who need to be) but started representational career in the union movement and served as governor of California.

Both those presidents were astute at building the alliances and working relationships, and trust from the Parties which secured their nominations.

Neither had given "tell all interviews" or had spouses who did so; so people had no reason to think that, when cutting the political deals that secure you the right supporters to head for the party nomination, those deals might later be made public

ImAvingOops · 07/05/2023 17:21

Having wealth is all relative - these are enormous sums to us but he is comparing himself to people who have much much more money. He's not comparable himself to someone going to a food bank, but to the billionaires he grew up alongside.

I imagine yesterday was very difficult - the press are looking to criticise and nothing he did would have been right.

I think he probably has some legitimate complaints but had gone about airing them in completely the wrong way - British people aren't at ease with airing dirty laundry in public. And while everyone (Americans included) think they want to know all the details of royal life we don't, not really. The RF works because of its mystique - once they start complaining about each other in public they start to lose the magic!

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