I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

Just came across this photo of Harry having a little peek at what Charlotte and Louis were doing. How bittersweet. It's not just William that Harry is now estranged from, it's his niece and nephews too. His kids are unlikely to have a close relationship with their cousins like he does with his and that's sad.

Total projection there, his face just happens to be pointed in that general durection, he was probably watching something happening in the coronation.

Navel gazing gone mad.

Well, given an ambassador's job is to get on with the people where they are posted in order to have the best possible relations and get the best possible info and deals, it would be a very weird move! Headlines, certainly, useful diplomacy... not so much...

That was said with tongue planted firmly in cheek @mixedrecycling. I do know what an ambassador does...

It is natural for him to look. Mind you, they are in the papers so much these days that he knows exactly what they look like currently.

Fuck me, Harry fans are so sensitive! Everyone in the picture is looking at Charlotte, not just him! It's not also NOT a criticism to say it was a bittersweet moment to see Harry looking at the niece and nephew he no longer has a relationship with.

Sorry, nuance doesn't come across on the internet, and there are some very weird supporters of Meghan 😂

I'm no fan of Harry and Meghan (or the rest of them) but I think he behaved impeccably. He came for his dad and left afterwards as always seems to have been the plan.

As other pps have said no-one knows if he spent time with his father on the evening before the coronation.

I hope that this may be the start of a different path for both H&M. She can get on with whatever projects she wants and he can hopefully find something that will be close to his heart.

He has two lovely children, a wife he seems to adore and a lovely home. I am sure he does miss the UK but that's only natural if you move abroad.

Hopefully he's got it out of his system now and eventually they can have some kind of reconciliation. As long as they concentrate on their own lives then I don't see why this can't happen one day.

Although I think the tabloid press would combust if it did!

It is sad because the next time he will probably appear with the royals will be at his dad's funeral. Will he attend William's coronation one day I wonder?

looking at the niece and nephew he no longer has a relationship with.

I see what you’re saying but he said he didn’t have a relationship with them in his book. He was rarely invited over according to him. Him and William didn’t spend a lot of time together over the years. Lead separate busy lives. It happens. It’s not a criticism.

I feel sorry for Charles and the rest of the RF. They are the ones on the receiving end of this arrogent, entitled, jealous little prick's pathetic attempts to make himself feel better, by making others feel bad.

On Britbox coverage, when he walked into the Abbey and smiled at a couple of people, the camera panned at the rest of the congregation in his eyeline, and there wasn't one single smile or acknowledgement. Frosty with bells on

I've not read the book so I didn't know that. I thought he'd been close to George at least pre-Meghan.

Isn't that normal though? The first born niece/nephew in the family, everyone dotes over them obsessively and childless siblings even try a bit of practice-parenting. Then the others come along (less interesting) and ultimately you have your own and transfer those feelings over. It certainly happened in my family.

Don't you get tired of being so full of hate for someone you don't know on behalf of other people that you don't know?

@kirinm Don't you get tired of being so full of hate for the royal family, who have done nothing wrong and you don't know either?
Don't you get tired of defending a couple who spent 2 years throwing mud and lies at their own families they knew wouldn't respond in kind or didn't have the resourses to?

Don't you get tired of accusing people of being a 'hater' when the reality is I don't feel hate, I feel contempt, because that is all they are worth.

You do sound full of hate tbh @polkadotdalmation. You stuff in as many negative adjectives into every single sentence you can about Harry and meghan. We all get it, you hate H&M. We geddit!

wouldn't respond in kind or didn't have the resourses to?

oh come off it, the RF aren't innocent little bunny rabbits who can't speak up for themselves. They can and they do. And they keep schtum when it suits them too. And their "resources" are the British media, so don't be so naive.

In the grand scheme of the world - I don’t have a single moment of sorrow for Harry. Plenty more deserving people out there, unfortunately.

In the context of celebrities/the royal family - I sort of feel sorry for Harry, because he was doomed from the start really. Born to those parents (bad marriage, nasty divorce); born the spare when clearly he didn’t have what it takes to be a spare; lost his mother young; evidently felt rudderless when he needed more guidance and a firmer hand than was offered. Then, married a woman who (just my opinion, don’t scream at me please it’s so boring for other posters) is far more intelligent than him and has taken him for what she can get from him. She certainly is a firm hand.

I can’t help but feel he left his old life for his new life to get away from his old life, without understanding what his new life is. It’s a slow-motion car crash, watching this man-child (child because so many issues from childhood) lose his standing, status, financial security, home country, all the family he has, which wasn’t much to begin with….for what. Meghan Markle’s promises to him.

If the royal family is grubby (which it is), his new world is a hundred times grubbier. They’re sharks, eating him alive, and not only does he not know it, his very wife is the one leading him out there as bait. I mean, who the fuck would watch their husband in therapy put out there all the shit he’s said in his book and interviews? Which wife wouldn’t insist he keep it private, for the children’s sake? (Fwiw I think she too is out of her depth now. She strikes me as a woman with the weight of the world on her shoulders, there’s no way her life is roses at the moment.)

It’s all pretty gruesome. It just occurred to me this weekend that when William is King, the only real working members of the family will be him, Kate, the three children and any of their partners. Harry won’t be there. His children will have no royal cousins. Beatrice et al will be the King’s cousins, their children will be George’s second cousins which is too distant. Charles doesn’t want a slimmed down monarchy. A skimmed down monarchy is what he’s got!

Well, I agree his current life is a lot grubbier than whatever the RF does!

As for skimmed down, it's what the much vaunted Danish/Netherlands etc monarchies are, without any problems.

I think because the King looked grumpy, and Camilla looked a bit like a deer caught in the headlights, and both hardly looked robust with all the robes and headgear weighing them down. They looked tired and old (I’m not that much younger than Charles btw) and the struggling, unsure footsteps of both Camilla and Charles was an image that is a bit too close to a tired and struggling Monarchy, sitting at the top of a tired and, in many cases, (financially) struggling British people.

Perhaps if it had been William and Kate, at their ages now, being crowned, there would have been more discussions about them. And the whole shebang would not have looked so tired.

I know a lot of people don’t agree with me but, putting aside Harry’s book etc, Harry has the same appeal as Diana - they are not similar in looks (except for height), but there is something about him. Something that shines on camera, and in interviews. Diana had the same thing. I think that’s why Harry is getting so much attention post coronation. People are drawn to him as they were to Diana. (Not everyone of course).

The other reason Harry is getting so much attention is strangely enough, Meghan’s absence. There’s going to be a great deal written about her absence and why, and what it conveyed to the British people, the former colonies, and the rest of the world. Probably not on here, but in other places.

it’s really sad that in regards to Meghan Markle, the best that some people can find in themselves are predictions of failure in some way.

How did they manage to film Harry walking in and smiling at people but also pan the congregation he was looking at, at the same time?

I know a lot of people don’t agree with me but, putting aside Harry’s book etc, Harry has the same appeal as Diana - they are not similar in looks (except for height), but there is something about him. Something that shines on camera, and in interviews. Diana had the same thing. I think that’s why Harry is getting so much attention post coronation. People are drawn to him as they were to Diana

Yes 100% Morestrangerthings great communicators. People are drawn to his energy and warmth like they were to Diana. Don't quite understand why those who dislike him want to talk about him so much. Like every day. Think it's probably complicated.

There was more than one camera position, and each camera can be remotely operated. I'm not sure how the feeds were amalgamated in to the pool footage and whether there was any choice.

They did show some footage of those already seated as the later, more important guests arrived

I think people want to talk about Harry because, to be fair, he's given them plenty to talk about. Although he is engaging when he speaks.

Oh heavens 😱 Harry smiled and nobody was found smiling back 🫣 Christ that’s proof positive the whole of the abbey hates his guts and wants the king to shout ‘ off with his head!’